Avengers: Age of Ultron OS Thread | $945.7M OS | $1.405B WW

[POTUS 2020]

As for wether this is a flop or not - the mere fact that it couldn't outgross its predecessor worldwide when that's really rare for sequels, especially sequels of loved movies, makes it really disappointing. While OS isn't much impressive, almost 1B OS at these exchange rates is still not too bad (although the rates were same for FF7). The real disappointment comes from Dom where its making TDKR numbers when its predecessor ended around a hundred million above TDK.

You could add 140m for XR and maybe 50-100m for 3d and it has TA1 beat even when you back out the china bonus

Edited May 25, 2015 by M F Lawrence

[Infernus]

You could add 140m for XR and maybe 50-100m for 3d and it has TA1 beat even when you back out the china bonus

Yeah it had a lot of things against it, OS, thats why I think its OS numbers are not really that bad but Dom has few excuses going for it.

[POTUS 2020]

Damn didnt take off in China or Japan? What happened

Japan not open yet but will surely cut in 1/2 w/o 3d and XR cutting revenue 33%

How've you been? anyone else commit suicide while watching titanic or Avatar lately?

How many suicides will occur within 1 year of Avatar 2s release?

We can start a deadpool

 

Officer and a gentlemen sent a couple people to purgatory in case you're keeping a list

[BadAtGender]

So Fast and the furious 7 may still end up beating Avengers 2 wow?!!

 

 

 

Wow can you imagine the year looks like this??

 

 

SW7 King of the Year

 

FF7

 

Avengers 2

JP World

 

 

or

 

SW7

Avengrs II

Furious 7

JPWorld

 

Wow.

Still think Sws will make at least 1.6-1.8B WW

 

If you're just looking at OS grosses, F7 is going to beat SW7 pretty handily. I'd guess SW7 ends up in the 800-900m range for that. By all reports, SW7 isn't going to play super well in East Asia; I could see it sacrificing 200m to F7 in China alone.

 

So if it's going to beat F7 WW, it needs to do that by making up the difference domestically. It probably needs to be close to TA1's DOM gross to do it. Possible, but not the sort of thing you bet on, really. It could easily end up down closer to 500m.

 

Right now, I'd say the yearly worldwide top 5 will be:

F7

SW7

AoU

Minions

Jurassic World

[POTUS 2020]

Yeah it had a lot of things against it, OS, thats why I think its OS numbers are not really that bad but Dom has few excuses going for it.

Dom is going to have or this the start of SH fatigue. To many per year now. Like animation has been going through the last few years. May see declines in others. Spidey is leading the way. 10 year reboot, lol call it what it is, a remake, silly

[eXtacy]

If you're just looking at OS grosses, F7 is going to beat SW7 pretty handily. I'd guess SW7 ends up in the 800-900m range for that. By all reports, SW7 isn't going to play super well in East Asia; I could see it sacrificing 200m to F7 in China alone.

 

So if it's going to beat F7 WW, it needs to do that by making up the difference domestically. It probably needs to be close to TA1's DOM gross to do it. Possible, but not the sort of thing you bet on, really. It could easily end up down closer to 500m.

 

Right now, I'd say the yearly worldwide top 5 will be:

F7

SW7

AoU

Minions

Jurassic World

 

Wheres Specter?

[cookie]

Can we talk about the fact that if this (and that is a big IF) hits 450m DOM then that would mean a 2.35x multi from OW, which is worse than MOS's 2.5x? (it would also be the EXACT same multi IM3 got)

 

Man of Steel's multi is skewed because BOM counts its Walmart previews towards thursday. If you include those in the weekend numbers (which makes MOS' weekend 128m) its multi is worse than IM3.

Edited May 25, 2015 by C00k13

[Asyulus]

F7

AoU

SW7

Spectre

Minions

That will be the top 5 WW contenders.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Novathron

[Hernan Gonzalez]

F7

AoU

SW7

Spectre

Minions

That will be the top 5 WW contenders.

And all of them over 1B WW? I would love to see that!!

[Asyulus]

And all of them over 1B WW? I would love to see that!!

One of these won't do 1B.

The other one is unsure.

[keysersoze123]

Spectre should do 1B. it has potential to grow big in China/Latin America to offset decreases in UK and couple of other developed markets. Dont forget Skyfall grossed 804m OS

[peludo]

When thinking about it, AOU fell quite a bit in the internation markets minus China from the first movie.

 

TA1: OS - China = 810m

 

AoU: OS - China = 730m (with an aprox. 960m estimated OS finish and a 230m estimated China finish)

 

Really a far cry from DH2's 900m OS - China (sorry, couldn't helpt it ).

That is not fair. Taking into account today exchange rates (not applying inflation):

 

TA1: OS - China = 668m (761m with China)

DH2: OS - China = 696m (759m with China)

 

And as you say:

 

AoU: OS - China = 730m (960m with China)

[keysersoze123]

That is not fair. Taking into account today exchange rates (not applying inflation):

 

TA1: OS - China = 668m (761m with China)

DH2: OS - China = 696m (759m with China)

 

And as you say:

 

AoU: OS - China = 730m (960m with China)

You need to take inflation into account. For example Average ticket price in 2002 iwas like $8 in venezuela while its $27 now. I am sure Average ticket prices have gone up big time in rest of Latin America, Russia and Asia. So I am not sure just adjusting exchange rate is good enough.

[POTUS 2020]

Who cares??? It's made 1.2B WW.. That's nothing to be disappointed about..

That wasn't the point. I was just correcting his comment where he thought it was over 1B OS

 

Now that you raised the question, Who cares? Many do. Many thought it could do 1.6-2B. Its a disappointment from their viewpoint.

As for me, Im disappointed it did over 1B WW.

Edited May 25, 2015 by M F Lawrence

[James]

That is not fair. Taking into account today exchange rates (not applying inflation):

 

TA1: OS - China = 668m (761m with China)

DH2: OS - China = 696m (759m with China)

 

And as you say:

 

AoU: OS - China = 730m (960m with China)

 

You need to take inflation into account. For example Average ticket price in 2002 iwas like $8 in venezuela while its $27 now. I am sure Average ticket prices have gone up big time in rest of Latin America, Russia and Asia. So I am not sure just adjusting exchange rate is good enough.

I subscribe to this. Inflation is crazy. The average ticket price here in the 2000s was less than $1 and now is in the 6-7$ area. In fact, inflation is the main reason why my market at least is an emerging one, because dmissions, tough rising, are about 60% bigger than 10 years ago (in comparisson to the aveerge ticket price that increased much much faster).  

[peludo]

I subscribe to this. Inflation is crazy. The average ticket price here in the 2000s was less than $1 and now is in the 6-7$ area. In fact, inflation is the main reason why my market at least is an emerging one, because dmissions, tough rising, are about 60% bigger than 10 years ago (in comparisson to the aveerge ticket price that increased much much faster).  

 

You need to take inflation into account. For example Average ticket price in 2002 iwas like $8 in venezuela while its $27 now. I am sure Average ticket prices have gone up big time in rest of Latin America, Russia and Asia. So I am not sure just adjusting exchange rate is good enough.

Of course inflation should be taken into account, but we already know how difficult it is to adjust a WW list (I am trying to do an approximation of it, but it is VERY HARD). In the same way, we would not be talking about F7 as the 3rd film ever reaching billion OS and it would not rank #4 WW. Anyway, I do not know if, excepting Venezuela, inflation is so crazy to be so remarkable in last 3-4 years (TA-DH2), considering, for instance, the deflation or nearly zero inflation period in some developed markets during these years (look at US adjusted figure for TA, which 3 years later is exactly the same than the original gross), or that 3D ratio for TA was probably quite bigger than for AoU.

 

What I wanted to mark with my previous post is that AoU is as big as TA. It is just I have the feeling that F7 results and exchange rates problem makes this number to look terrible, but it is needed to put into perspective the numbers. Anyway, when we can have the inflation WW list, we will be able to compare better.

[keysersoze123]

Of course inflation should be taken into account, but we already know how difficult it is to adjust a WW list (I am trying to do an approximation of it, but it is VERY HARD). In the same way, we would not be talking about F7 as the 3rd film ever reaching billion OS and it would not rank #4 WW. Anyway, I do not know if, excepting Venezuela, inflation is so crazy to be so remarkable in last 3-4 years (TA-DH2), considering, for instance, the deflation or nearly zero inflation period in some developed markets during these years (look at US adjusted figure for TA, which 3 years later is exactly the same than the original gross), or that 3D ratio for TA was probably quite bigger than for AoU.

 

What I wanted to mark with my previous post is that AoU is as big as TA. It is just I have the feeling that F7 results and exchange rates problem makes this number to look terrible, but it is needed to put into perspective the numbers. Anyway, when we can have the inflation WW list, we will be able to compare better.

 

US adjusted numbers are bullshit. The reason why "average" ticket prices have not increased is sharp decrease in 3d ratio. Prices of tickets have increased close to 10%.

[BadAtGender]

Wheres Specter?

 

On one hand, I mentally forgot it. Oops.

 

On the other, though, I'm not sure it's going to remain in that upper tier. Skyfall had the 50th anniversary tie-in going for it, which isn't going to apply here. Spectre probably sees a drop, and it could be pretty harsh in some markets. I don't think it'll drop back to the numbers of Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, but something like 250 DOM / 650 OS could be in the cards. Solid, but probably a bit short of Minions, which is likely to see a bigger bump in China.

[Hernan Gonzalez]

Underestimated again:

"Disney/Marvel’s Avengers: Age of Ultron, meanwhile, took in an estimated $46.4M in its fifth weekend from 91 territories representing approximately 95% of the international market. The film opens in Japan on July 4. That brings the foreign total to $860.6M including $210M in China where it opened May 12. Combined with Ultron’s North American estimated tally through Monday of $410.98M, the superhero cluster flick will have taken in $1.27B worldwide."

[Fantomex]

Will this hit 1.5 B?