Wednesday Numbers | Official Estimates: Magic Mike XXL - 9.3M; Terminator: Genisys - 8.9M

[redfirebird2008]

Can we start the WWW thread for Flopinator?

[CJohn]

Lmao it probably didn't even do 9M. Paramount is on the phone with Puerto Rico as we speak to push it over 9M. 

[Jay Beezy]

Can we start the WWW thread for Flopinator?

 

Sorry, should be Flopinator Penisys. 

[grey ghost]

Avatar, Frozen, Alice in Wonderland, Inception, Guardians of the Galaxy and 2012 were the most successful non-sequels in recent memory.

[redfirebird2008]

Actually, I was thinking within the last 40 years. I feel like we've built up somewhat of a myth of something which didn't really exist to the degree we "remember."

The only risky, original blockbusters I can think of off the top of my head is Star Wars, Titanic (if you count historical fiction) and Avatar. Almost everything else, I can think of ways it either wasn't risky or wasn't original.

Inception and Interstellar

[grey ghost]

Actually, I was thinking within the last 40 years. I feel like we've built up somewhat of a myth of something which didn't really exist to the degree we "remember."

The only risky, original blockbusters I can think of off the top of my head is Star Wars, Titanic (if you count historical fiction) and Avatar. Almost everything else, I can think of ways it either wasn't risky or wasn't original.

James Cameron: gambles big, wins big.

[CJohn]

Inception and Interstellar

[Gopher]

San Andreas did fine and it was also original. 

 

Different beast if it's star-driven. More of a rarity these days, sure, but give a movie to The Rock or Channing Tatum or Jennifer Lawrence or Leonardo DiCaprio or Scarlett Johannson Sandra Bullock or Bradley Cooper or a number of comedy stars (Ferrell, McCarthy, Wahlberg, Hart, Rogen, etc) and it'll probably open fine if it looks good/commercial enough (or if it looks better than The Judge). 

 

Similarly there are a small handful of directors that can open a movie--Cameron, Nolan, Spielberg--on their name alone. Even then though it has to have pretty good buzz/reviews going into its release. 

Edited July 2, 2015 by Gopher

[TServo2049]

OK, Inception is a good example, its concept was completely original and risky, but it was partially mitigated by being from the director of The Dark Knight and starring DiCaprio.

Interstellar was kind of a wash domestically, OS redeemed it.

[GiantCALBears]

I think it's 9m, which is not good.

ITS LOWER THAN VARIETY??? Lol wooooooow yeah wait for Rth huh B? What a bomb.

[electric storm]

Avatar, Frozen, Alice in Wonderland, Inception, Guardians of the Galaxy and 2012 were the most successful non-sequels in recent memory.

 

Inside Out?

Edited July 2, 2015 by electric storm

[GiantCALBears]

OK, Inception is a good example, its concept was completely original and risky, but it was partially mitigated by being from the director of The Dark Knight and starring DiCaprio.

Interstellar was kind of a wash domestically, OS redeemed it.

Interstellar wasn't as loved by American GA compared to many on this forum that were already hyped for it.

[CJohn]

Different beast if it's star-driven. More of a rarity these days, sure, but give a movie to The Rock or Channing Tatum or Jennifer Lawrence or Sandra Bullock or Bradley Cooper or a number of comedy stars (Ferrell, McCarthy, Wahlberg, Hart, Rogen, etc) and it'll probably open fine if it looks good (ie if it looks better than The Judge). 

 

Similarly there are a small handful of directors that can open a movie--Cameron, Nolan, Spielberg--on their name alone. Even then though it has to have pretty good buzz/reviews going into its release. 

You are forgetting someone.

 

Interstellar was kind of a wash domestically, OS redeemed it.

Interstellar did almost 190M DOM. Barely any original movies do that nowadays. 

[Jay Beezy]

Different beast if it's star-driven. More of a rarity these days, sure, but give a movie to The Rock or Channing Tatum or Jennifer Lawrence or Sandra Bullock or Bradley Cooper or a number of comedy stars (Ferrell, McCarthy, Wahlberg, Hart, Rogen, etc) and it'll probably open fine if it looks good (ie if it looks better than The Judge). 

 

No Chris Pratt yet?

[redfirebird2008]

Interstellar was kind of a wash domestically, OS redeemed it.

After opening weekend a number of us were thinking under Prometheus. The legs were pretty good and the "low" opening itself proved hiw risky the project was.

[goldenstate5]

Inside Out?

 

In before somebody calls Pixar a brand, despite the examples including Burton, Marvel, Disney and Nolan... which all four were "brands" when those movies were released.

[redfirebird2008]

Interstellar wasn't as loved by American GA compared to many on this forum that were already hyped for it.

The opening was a bigger problem. The legs were very good.

[Alpha]

Hopefully that JW number holds. Awful for TG, looked like a disappointment from the first stills.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Alpha

[Hatebox]

Successful blockbusters seem much less risky after the fact.

[CJohn]

After opening weekend a number of us were thinking under Prometheus. The legs were pretty good and the "low" opening itself proved hiw risky the project was.

It almost had a 4x multiplier from his OW. Legs were fantastic.