riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I doubt The Master gets anything outside of Best Actor. It's practically a box office bomb, and its very polarizing.Master's biggest shot at a nomination is Best Supporting Actor. But, I'll say that Hoffman is in danger of falling off come Oscar morning as the ensemble, and Adams both failed to make SAG. That indicates that there isn't too much broad support for the movie which could be problematic. Bitch please. Dark Knight Rises would take Marigold Hotel's spot.You usually have the mega-blockbuster spot with the Best Picture nominees.In 2010 we had Inception and in 2009 we had Avatar.Plus, if Inception can grasp a BP nod, I don't see why TDKR can't.There are a number of things that a woefully misguided. Times have changed. Back in 2010, mega-blockbusters got nominations much easier. Back then, they had 10 nominees with a carrying ranked system for nominees. Now, they use a variable nominee system with a carrying ranked system that puts a large emphasis on #1 votes. The current system rewards films that have lots of #1 votes and simultaneously decreases the importance of 3,4,5th place votes. The fact is, as I reiterate probably for the millionth time now over the past few months, TDKR will not get enough #1 votes, and won't have enough #2 votes carried over to be able to get that nomination. Secondly, Avatar made 2.8 billion dollars WW. It was too big to ignore. Inception was in serious contention for a BD nomination, and Nolan was arguably snubbed. That indicated broad based Academy support for the movie, which obviously was a more academy friendly movie than TDKR. TDKR is a fucking comic book movie. The Academy will never, ever respect a comic book movie the way they do a crime drama, or a bio-pic, or a million other genres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I do think Joaquin Phoenix should get in pretty easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I do think Joaquin Phoenix should get in pretty easilyWTF? If he gets in, he'll barely scrape in. He missed SAG. The film is not well received by the Academy. It's buzz is comparatively very low. There's no way he'll get in pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 WTF? If he gets in, he'll barely scrape in. He missed SAG. The film is not well received by the Academy. It's buzz is comparatively very low. There's no way he'll get in pretty easily. What? No SAG?! But isn't it the best performance of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 What? No SAG?! But isn't it the best performance of the year?I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.... But Master only got one SAG nomination, PSH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.... But Master only got one SAG nomination, PSH. Well shit. I've only heard great praise for Phoenix, and even people who didn't like the movie that much say he was good in it. I guess he getting snubbed is kinda like Brad Pitt getting snubbed for The Tree of Life, another divisive movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 PGA's announcing today now. Should be coming in the next few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) “Argo” (Warner Bros.) Producers: Ben Affleck, George Clooney, Grant Heslov “Beasts of the Southern Wild” (Fox Searchlight Pictures) Producers: Michael Gottwald, Dan Janvey, Josh Penn “Django Unchained” (The Weinstein Company) Producers: Reginald Hudlin, Pilar Savone, Stacey Sher “Les Misérables” (Universal Pictures) Producers: Tim Bevan & Eric Fellner, Debra Hayward, Cameron Mackintosh Life of Pi” (Fox 2000 Pictures) Producers: Ang Lee, Gil Netter, David Womark “Lincoln” (Touchstone Pictures) Producers: Kathleen Kennedy, Steven Spielberg “Moonrise Kingdom” (Focus Features) Producers: Wes Anderson & Scott Rudin, Jeremy Dawson, Steven Rales “Silver Linings Playbook” (The Weinstein Company) Producers: Bruce Cohen, Donna Gigliotti, Jonathan Gordon “Skyfall” (Columbia Pictures) Producers: Barbara Broccoli, Michael G. Wilson “Zero Dark Thirty” (Columbia Pictures) Producers: Kathryn Bigelow, Mark Boal, Megan Ellison Boring and Safe. Love that Skyfall made it. Love that Moonrise Made it. Both in my top 10 of the year, and were films I didn't think would make it. Disgusted that Beasts made it though. Dreadful picture. Just Dreadful. :sick: :sick: And shame Master didn't make it. It's no longer a top 10 or a perfect 10/10 film for me after a few rewatches, but I was hoping they'd go for something more out there for them. Edited January 2, 2013 by riczhang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Expected list. The Master appears to be dead for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Last year 3 films that were more broad based consensus titles: Bridesmaids, TGWTT, The Ides of March lost out to 2 very passion based films ToL and ELAIC. I'm thinking that if we end up with 9 or 10 nominees for BP that we'll probably see at least 2 differences between PGA and AMPAS. Skyfall's most in danger of falling off, not sure what some of the others would be. Probably be Moonrise, or Beasts; but both of those strike me as passion based votes (You either have it at #1 or 2 or not at all) but they made it in the more consensus based PGA nomination system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I said this earlier (not sure if it was this thread) but Lincoln doesn't seem like the kind of film that gets a huge number of #1 citations. It has barely won anything yet despite being nominated everywhere. It'll lead in nominations, but I don't quite think it's the favorite for Best Picture.1. Zero Dark Thirty2. Argo3. Lincoln4. Les MiserablesThose are the four with a shot to win5. Silver Linings Playbook6. Django Unchained7. Life of PiThose three are likely nominees. The last couple spots will come down to two out of five of Skyfall, The Master, Marigold, Moonrise, and The Impossible. Beasts and TDKR seem out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I wonder if Skyfall could get a nod..... That'd be great, and it'd be a huge ratings boost as well. But, I'm leaning more and more towards a bare minimum of 5 or 6 nominees. ZDT, Argo, Lincoln, Les Mis, SLP, and either Django of LoP. I think that the year is so strong that the 5% rule may actually work against many movies because everyone will collect around the 5 big movies of the year instead of a situation like last year where you had a few very strong movies but the rest were pretty evenly matched and so we ended up with a lot of nominees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The rest of the nominees: The Award for Outstanding Producer of Animated Theatrical Motion Pictures “Brave” (Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures) Producer: Katherine Sarafian “Frankenweenie” (Walt Disney Pictures) Producers: Allison Abbate, Tim Burton “ParaNorman” (Focus Features) Producers: Travis Knight, Arianne Sutner “Rise of the Guardians” (Paramount Pictures) Producers: Nancy Bernstein, Christina Steinberg “Wreck-It Ralph” (Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures) Producer: Clark Spencer TELEVISION NOMINEES The David L. Wolper Award for Outstanding Producer of Long-Form Television “American Horror Story” (FX) Producers: Brad Buecker, Dante Di Loreto, Brad Falchuk, Ryan Murphy, Chip Vucelich, Alexis Martin Woodall “The Dust Bowl” (PBS) Producers: Producer Eligibility Pending “Game Change” (HBO) Producers: Gary Goetzman, Tom Hanks, Jay Roach, Amy Sayres, Steven Shareshian, Danny Strong “Hatfields & McCoys” (History) Producers: Barry Berg, Kevin Costner, Darrell Fetty, Leslie Greif, Herb Nanas “Sherlock” (PBS) Producers: Mark Gatiss, Steven Moffat, Beryl Vertue, Sue Vertue The Long-Form Television category encompasses both movies of the week and mini-series. In November 2012, the Producers Guild of America announced the Documentary Theatrical Motion Picture, Television Series and Non-Fiction Television Nominations; the following list includes complete producer credits. The Award for Outstanding Producer of Documentary Theatrical Motion Pictures “A People Uncounted” (Urbinder Films) Producers: Marc Swenker, Aaron Yeger “The Gatekeepers” (Sony Pictures Classics) Producers: Estelle Fialon, Philippa Kowarsky, Dror Moreh “The Island President” (Samuel Goldwyn Films) Producers: Richard Berg, Bonni Cohen “The Other Dream Team” (The Film Arcade) Producers: Marius Markevicius, Jon Weinbach “Searching For Sugar Man” (Sony Pictures Classics) Producers: Malik Bendjelloul, Simon Chinn The Norman Felton Award for Outstanding Producer of Episodic Television, Drama “Breaking Bad” (AMC) Producers: Melissa Bernstein, Sam Catlin, Bryan Cranston, Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Mark Johnson, Stewart Lyons, Michelle MacLaren, George Mastras, Diane Mercer, Thomas Schnauz, Moira Walley-Beckett “Downton Abbey” (PBS) Producers: Julian Fellowes, Gareth Neame, Liz Trubridge “Game of Thrones” (HBO) Producers: David Benioff, Bernadette Caulfield, Frank Doelger, Carolyn Strauss, D.B. Weiss “Homeland” (Showtime) Producers: Henry Bromell, Alexander Cary, Michael Cuesta, Alex Gansa, Howard Gordon, Chip Johannessen, Michael Klick, Meredith Stiehm “Mad Men” (AMC) Producers: Jon Hamm, Scott Hornbacher, Andre Jacquemetton, Maria Jacquemetton, Victor Levin, Blake McCormick, Matthew Weiner The Danny Thomas Award for Outstanding Producer of Episodic Television, Comedy “30 Rock” (NBC) Producers: Irene Burns, Kay Cannon, Robert Carlock, Vali Chandrasekaran, Luke Del Tredici, Tina Fey, Matt Hubbard, Marci Klein, Jerry Kupfer, Lorne Michaels, David Miner, Dylan Morgan, Jeff Richmond, John Riggi, Josh Siegal, Ron Weiner “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) Producers: Chuck Lorre, Steve Molaro, Faye Oshima Belyeu, Bill Prady “Curb Your Enthusiasm” (HBO) Producers: Alec Berg, Larry Charles, Larry David, Jeff Garlin, Tim Gibbons, David Mandel, Erin O’Malley, Jeff Schaffer, Laura Streicher “Louie” (FX) Producers: Dave Becky, M. Blair Breard, Louis C.K. “Modern Family” (ABC) Producers: Cindy Chupack, Paul Corrigan, Abraham Higginbotham, Ben Karlin, Steven Levitan, Christopher Lloyd, Jeff Morton, Dan O’Shannon, Jeffrey Richman, Chris Smirnoff, Brad Walsh, Bill Wrubel, Danny ZukerThe Award for Outstanding Producer of Non-Fiction Television: “American Masters” (PBS) Producers: Prudence Glass, Susan Lacy, Julie Sacks “Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations” (Travel Channel) Producers: Anthony Bourdain, Christopher Collins, Lydia Tenaglia, Sandy Zweig “Deadliest Catch” (Discovery Channel) Producers: Thom Beers, Jeff Conroy, Sean Dash, John Gray, Sheila McCormack, Bill Pruitt, Decker Watson “Inside the Actors Studio” (Bravo) Producers: James Lipton, Shawn Tesser, Jeff Wurtz “Shark Tank” (ABC) Producers: Rhett Bachner, Becky Blitz, Mark Burnett, Bill Gaudsmith, Yun Lingner, Brien Meagher, Clay Newbill, Jim Roush, Laura Skowlund, Paul Sutera, Patrick Wood The Award for Outstanding Producer of Live Entertainment & Talk Television “The Colbert Report” (Comedy Central) Producers: Meredith Bennett, Stephen Colbert, Richard Dahm, Paul Dinello, Barry Julien, Matt Lappin, Emily Lazar, Tanya Michnevich Bracco, Tom Purcell, Jon Stewart “Jimmy Kimmel Live” (ABC) Producers: David Craig, Ken Crosby, Doug DeLuca, Erin Irwin, Jimmy Kimmel, Jill Leiderman, Jason Schrift, Jennifer Sharron “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” (NBC) Producers: Hillary Hunn, Lorne Michaels, Gavin Purcell, Michael Shoemaker “Real Time with Bill Maher” (HBO) Producers: Scott Carter, Sheila Griffiths, Marc Gurvitz, Dean Johnsen, Bill Maher, Billy Martin “Saturday Night Live” (NBC) Producers: Ken Aymong, Steve Higgins, Erik Kenward, Lorne Michaels, John Mulaney The Award for Outstanding Producer of Competition Television “The Amazing Race” (CBS) Producers: Jerry Bruckheimer, Elise Doganieri, Jonathan Littman, Bertram van Munster, Mark Vertullo “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) Producers: Ashley Edens Shaffer, Conrad Green, Joe Sungkur “Project Runway” (Lifetime) Producers: Jane Cha Cutler, Desiree Gruber, Tim Gunn, Heidi Klum, Jonathan Murray, Sara Rea, Colleen Sands “Top Chef” (Bravo) Producers: Daniel Cutforth, Casey Kriley, Jane Lipsitz, Dan Murphy, Nan Strait “The Voice” (NBC) Producers: Stijn Bakkers, Mark Burnett, John De Mol, Chad Hines, Lee Metzger, Audrey Morrissey, Jim Roush, Nicolle Yaron, Mike Yurchuk, Amanda Zucker The following programs were not vetted for producer eligibility this year, but winners in these categories will be announced at the official ceremony on January 26: The Award for Outstanding Sports Program “24/7” (HBO) “Catching Hell” (ESPN) “The Fight Game with Jim Lampley” (HBO) “On Freddie Roach” (HBO) “Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel” (HBO) The Award for Outstanding Children’s Program “Good Luck Charlie” (Disney Channel) “iCarly” (Nickelodeon) “Phineas and Ferb” (Disney Channel) “Sesame Street” (PBS) “The Weight of the Nation for Kids: The Great Cafeteria Takeover” (HBO) The Award for Outstanding Digital Series “30 Rock: The Webisodes” (www.nbc.com) “Bravo’s Top Chef: Last Chance Kitchen” (www.bravotv.com) “Dexter Early Cuts: All in the Family” (www.sho.com) “The Guild” (www.watchtheguild.com) “H+ The Digital Series” (www.youtube.com/user/HplusDigitalSeries) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Expected list. The Master appears to be dead for good.Not necessarily. A Serious Man, Winter's Bone, and The Tree of Life all missed a PGA nomination. I'll agree that it's a longshot, but it's not dead yet. (And yes, I imagined that in the voice of the not-quite-dead peasant in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Super happy Skyfall made it. PGA snubbing DH2 was unforgivable because Producers should have acknowledged the biggest franchise in the world.DU is happening as the Best Picture nominee. WOM is insane already but actual nom will help its legs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I wasn't expecting Beasts from them so that's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I`m so annoyed by commenters who say that Skyfall will get a snub at the Oscars. Hello, Bardem nom + PGA nom hint at bigger support among the industry. It won`t get snubbed. It musn`t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forg Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) I feel like The Master's reception is just like The Tree of Life, it's a passion film so it could sneak in. Anyway, with the PGA nominees Moonrise Kingdom and Beasts of the Southern Wild both got a boost. Can they both sneak in? I'm predicting just one and maybe Moonrise Kingdom.Skyfall is getting some heat as well so maybe that's the one who would get the "blockbuster" spot and it's fairly new compared to TDKR and TA. Edited January 3, 2013 by forg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 If Skyfall happens I'll be ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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