Monday #s SS about 1.05-1.1

[Maitch]

55 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

The thing about all that is the movie has reached it potential.SS was never going to do a billion.Im pretty sure WB was surprised that it was crossing the 700ww mark w/o China.

All those 800 breakeven talks are ridiculous .There's is no absolutely no way SS needed that much,if so WB expected a Billion?

I don't think so.

 

Exactly. I know there was a great deal of hype,  but there is no way that that WB expected a billion for this when the film was greenlighted - especially without China. 

 

It could probably have done a billion if it were a better movie, but that is a different story. 

[a2k]

If XYZ was a better movie it would have found 300m more WW to cross a benchmark figure my brain is comfortable with.

[Brainiac5]

8 minutes ago, Maitch said:

 

Exactly. I know there was a great deal of hype,  but there is no way that that WB expected a billion for this when the film was greenlighted - especially without China. 

 

It could probably have done a billion if it were a better movie, but that is a different story. 

Maybe a billion but that is really pushing it.

From what I see only CBM fans have a problem with it not so much the average movie goer.Not one person I asked who knows nothing about comics have said they didn't like it.For the most part SS is loved by the G.A. but hated by a few comic fans who really doesn't add much to its boxoffice.

[Dementeleus]

5 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Maybe a billion but that is really pushing it.

From what I see only CBM fans have a problem with it not so much the average movie goer.Not one person I asked who knows nothing about comics have said they didn't like it.For the most part SS is loved by the G.A. but hated by a few comic fans who really doesn't add much to its boxoffice.

 

Not only do I disagree, I don't see how you can say that with any degree of accuracy.

[EmpireCity]

15 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Maybe a billion but that is really pushing it.

From what I see only CBM fans have a problem with it not so much the average movie goer.Not one person I asked who knows nothing about comics have said they didn't like it.For the most part SS is loved by the G.A. but hated by a few comic fans who really doesn't add much to its boxoffice.

 

You have absolutely nothing that backs this statement up.  In fact, most of the evidence goes against it.  

[m3racer123]

50 minutes ago, exomassey said:

I don't understand why people say Suicide Squad could never reach a billion.

 

No film with 'Suicide' in the name will play well with young families, which is where films tend to make a lot of their money. Plus it has a high age rating in many countries which will limit its box office.

[AHepBurn]

SS’s done well overall. It’ll ill end it’s run within 5% of GotG’s domestic total and has already surpassed it’s foreign total if you take out China. Could both BvS and SS have made more depending on if they were critically received? Maybe, maybe not. We’ve seen with the Marvel moves that high critical acclaim doesn’t necessarily translate to monster box office every single time. Their box office potential is now just really limited since it seems they’ve basically plateaued on their fanbase.  AoU really never got as high as Avengers because the first movie was an anomaly with a lot of casual interest. AoU attracted good casual interest as well but largely played to fans of the franchise. CACW was expected by many to explode to Avengers numbers but didn’t. It played pretty much exactly like IM3 and probably safe to say the general public saw it as an RDJ Marvel movie more than anything. There’s still a big $800mil - $1bil “No RDJ Gap” that Marvel still can’t seem to pierce. The X-Men movies similarly all play at roughly the same numbers because they’re largely composed of their core audience that has stuck around since the first movie.

 

DC’s movies are probably limited by their fanbase right now as well since they’re playing with relatively similar numbers. They’ve just shown slower growth instead of explosive growth since they haven’t gotten their one big breakout hit just yet. But the franchise is making a lot of money without showing signs of a dropoff yet, so like the Bond movies they’ll keep making films and it’s inevitable that something will hit massively at some point.

 

Looking back, I think BvS did fine. There was expectation by many that it would easily crack $1bil because of the addition of Batman, but this is a brand new Batman and a different franchise entirely. That kind of continued increase just because it has the same brand name (ex: James Bond) really just doesn’t happen. Even though the character was well known, Nolan’s first Batman movie took in just $374mil worldwide ($207mil D, $167mil F), which isn't much. That franchise broke out to $1bil status because of Nolan, Bale and Ledger, not just because it’s Batman. We’ve also seen what happens when you essentially do a soft-reboot in Transformers, which showed steady growth with it’s first three movies then dropped off with Age of Extinction because, even though it’s still a Transformers movie with many of the same elements, it’s an entirely different cast and essentially starting over once more. Looking back, it seems like BvS played like it was a sequel to MoS, which makes sense considering the same cast and creative crew. A 25%-30% increase in worldwide is reasonable for a sequel considering it’s working in the unpredictable +$700mil range. Giving the same sort of sequel bump to JL, I’d see it just cracking over $1bil but I wouldn’t be surprised if it just missed if it doesn’t get ridiculously high reviews to pull more massive casual interest instead of just good levels of casual interest.

[Fancyarcher]

43 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Maybe a billion but that is really pushing it.

From what I see only CBM fans have a problem with it not so much the average movie goer.Not one person I asked who knows nothing about comics have said they didn't like it.For the most part SS is loved by the G.A. but hated by a few comic fans who really doesn't add much to its boxoffice.

 

Loved? At best the general audiences probably enjoys the film.

[Blaze Heatnix]

40 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Maybe a billion but that is really pushing it.

From what I see only CBM fans have a problem with it not so much the average movie goer.Not one person I asked who knows nothing about comics have said they didn't like it.For the most part SS wasn't hated by the G.A. but hated by a few comic fans who really doesn't add much to its boxoffice.

 

I fixed that for ya.

 

Love is a strong word. I can say people liked this movie more than BVS, overall. Love is something really different, though. lol

 

When I left the cinema, most of the people were saying this movie was miles better than BVS. I got the feeling that would be the general feeling from major audiences. Even if the movie is bad, it's better than SS. I loved SS, but I know many people that disliked it, which I have no problem with. Fact is that they disliked it less than BVS. XD

 

So, this is SS in a nutshell:

 

1) Even if it doesn't have amazing word of mouth, its WOM is still much better than BVS's. 

 

2) Has more legs than BVS.

 

3) Has had decent holds, unlike BVS.

 

4) It has fun moments, which BVS lacked.

 

5) Overall, improvement can be seen even if SS has its flaws. That's it.

[a2k]

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
-	(5)	Kubo and the Two Strings	Focus Features	$1,003,834	+52%	3,279	$306	$26,520,140	12
-	(8)	Bad Moms	STX Entertainment	$740,315	+36%	2,565	$289	$96,552,793	33
-	(10)	Ben-Hur	Paramount Pictures	$670,656	+55%	3,084	$217	$20,686,581	12
-	(9)	Jason Bourne	Universal	$574,690	+33%	2,445	$235	$150,275,820	33
-	(11)	The Secret Life of Pets	Universal	$502,865	+34%	2,091	$240	$354,217,915	54
-	(13)	Florence Foster Jenkins	Paramount Pictures	$463,752	+40%	1,324	$350	$20,616,590	19
-	(14)	Star Trek Beyond	Paramount Pictures	$278,227	+26%	1,277	$218	$151,391,338	40

[Dementeleus]

Mercy! That KUBO jump.  

 

Why don't you start the Tuesday thread, @a2knet?

[a2k]

BAD MOMS should cross 100m on Saturday on it's way beyond 115m.

[RandomCat]

4 minutes ago, a2knet said:

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
-	(5)	Kubo and the Two Strings	Focus Features	$1,003,834	+52%	3,279	$306	$26,520,140	12
-	(8)	Bad Moms	STX Entertainment	$740,315	+36%	2,565	$289	$96,552,793	33
-	(10)	Ben-Hur	Paramount Pictures	$670,656	+55%	3,084	$217	$20,686,581	12
-	(9)	Jason Bourne	Universal	$574,690	+33%	2,445	$235	$150,275,820	33
-	(11)	The Secret Life of Pets	Universal	$502,865	+34%	2,091	$240	$354,217,915	54
-	(13)	Florence Foster Jenkins	Paramount Pictures	$463,752	+40%	1,324	$350	$20,616,590	19
-	(14)	Star Trek Beyond	Paramount Pictures	$278,227	+26%	1,277	$218	$151,391,338	40

 Kubo. I am happy with that.

[Hiccup23]

6 minutes ago, a2knet said:

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
-	(5)	Kubo and the Two Strings	Focus Features	$1,003,834	+52%	3,279	$306	$26,520,140	12
-	(8)	Bad Moms	STX Entertainment	$740,315	+36%	2,565	$289	$96,552,793	33
-	(10)	Ben-Hur	Paramount Pictures	$670,656	+55%	3,084	$217	$20,686,581	12
-	(9)	Jason Bourne	Universal	$574,690	+33%	2,445	$235	$150,275,820	33
-	(11)	The Secret Life of Pets	Universal	$502,865	+34%	2,091	$240	$354,217,915	54
-	(13)	Florence Foster Jenkins	Paramount Pictures	$463,752	+40%	1,324	$350	$20,616,590	19
-	(14)	Star Trek Beyond	Paramount Pictures	$278,227	+26%	1,277	$218	$151,391,338	40

 

+55% jump for Ben Hur. This film is gonna see massive legs 

[a2k]

4 minutes ago, NuTella Lover of Sky Beams said:

Mercy! That KUBO jump.  

 

Why don't you start the Tuesday thread, @a2knet?

 

 

[MCKillswitch123]

EDIT: Nothing to read here. Go back to your house.

Edited August 31, 2016 by MCKillswitch123