toutvabien Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) Marvel just needs to get the charli xcx brat endorsement. Look at Kamala Harris. Edited July 23 by toutvabien 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Hugh Jackman had made it clear for at least the past decade that he wanted to join the MCU. I don’t think he cares as much about the “integrity” of Logan’s ending as others might. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, toutvabien said: Marvel just needs to get the charli xcx brat endorsement. Look at Kamala Harris. Pretty sure Kamala is too busy right now to care about the new Deadpool movie coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Clown Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 12 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said: Also let's face it he was likely gonna come back anyways for Secret Wars. Eugh. Don't remind me. The way Marvel nerds describe it, the whole thing sounds like the most pandering fan service nonsense ever. Are Marvel fans really content with a movie that is nothing but "look, it's that actor you like being that character in that movie you saw as a kid?" Do they not feel manipulated? Do they like being manipulated? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Mojoguy said: Pretty sure Kamala is too busy right now to care about the new Deadpool movie coming out. Good thing they were talking about getting the endorsement from charli and not from Kamala. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutvabien Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Mojoguy said: Pretty sure Kamala is too busy right now to care about the new Deadpool movie coming out. Oh... that's not what I implied! Kamala can do her own thing, but there were literal news reports about all the brat edit memes gaining her hype amongst Gen Z. That's what I'm refering to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 24 minutes ago, justnumbers said: Honestly I have no idea who most of these negative reviewers are nor have seen a reaction from them before here. lol several of them are from the top tier publications in film criticism and journalism, RogerEbert.com etc. On RT they're labelled Top Critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Mojoguy said: Why do superhero film fans always overreact when their movies get bad reviews? I never understood it. They are all action films with actors in silly costumes and shouldn't be taken so damn seriously. A little more than 2 decades ago they were nearly all trash and the genre was the laughing stock of Hollywood, we have come such a long way. Right? Some people are saying for hours how critics are snobs and their opinion doesn’t matter but they keep clearly pressed about it before the reviews even drop. Some i’ve seen doing this for every MCU movie in the past years. It’s easier to just admit that you care profoundly about critical reception and is sad about the possible outcome, it’s fine. I was part of a group with Marvels fans and my theory is that, considering many early SHM was panned by critics and the genre was only fully stablished culturally when MCU blowed up with very consistent high % on RT during their 12 years peak, they’re just get used to associate great critical reception as one of the biggest factors for the cultural dominance and success of SHM. That’s probably why many of the own fans freaked out many times about perfectly fine reviews like MOM and now gets very angry everytime a movie can possibly have this type of reception again. Is a data that makes explicit how the cultural dominance of the genre faded a lot post-pandemic despite the huge relevancy it still have with the right titles. Edited July 23 by ThomasNicole 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max007 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Well the reactions have somewhat done its job, my nearest theater has the matinee entirely sold out now even the neck breaking seats, they had to add another showing lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude97 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 i do personally think cap 4 and Thunderbolts are fucked at the box office if this get's anything lower than a critics 70% on RT and a A or A+ on CS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, ThomasNicole said: Right? Some people are saying for hours how critics are snobs and their opinion doesn’t matter but they keep clearly pressed about it before the reviews even drop. Some i’ve seen doing this for every MCU movie in the past years. It’s easier to just admit that you care profoundly about critical reception and is sad about the possible outcome, it’s fine. I was part of a group with Marvels fans and my theory is that, considering many early SHM was panned by critics and the genre was only fully stablished culturally when MCU blowed up with very consistent high % on RT during their 12 years peak, they’re just get used to associated great critical reception as one of the biggest factors for the cultural dominance and success of SHM. That’s probably why many of the own fans freaked out many times about perfectly fine reviews like MOM and now gets very angry everytime a movie can possibly have this type of reception again. Is a data that makes explicit how the cultural dominance of the genre faded a lot post-pandemic despite the huge relevancy it still have with the right titles. As a loooooong time fan of many many different fandoms. I can tell you that there ain't anything unique about Marvel fandom when it comes to their reaction to critical reviews. Oh, to be sure, what you're mentioning here might be a contributing factor and/or something of a force multiplier. But the "I don't care about reviews. No really. Let me tell you about how much I don't care about reviews for the next ten hours days weeks" is not exactly a unique occurance. That the MCU fandom is going through this experience? That there might be growing pains in not being used to such an experience? Okay, gonna agree with the point there. But, on the whole? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 7 minutes ago, toutvabien said: Oh... that's not what I implied! Kamala can do her own thing, but there were literal news reports about all the brat edit memes gaining her hype amongst Gen Z. That's what I'm refering to! I thought you meant Deadpool also needed to get an endorsement from Kamala Harris. That's what I get for reading too fast. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 16 minutes ago, Eric Twister said: Are Marvel fans really content with a movie that is nothing but "look, it's that actor you like being that character in that movie you saw as a kid?" That's over simplification, People like to see characters and actors that they like, and it's not just marvel fans. Also why wouldn't they, they like the actor playing the character, and they want more, why is wanting more of the thing you like is bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude97 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 but on one hand, if reception's bad, that means the chances of Marvel handing the keys of the X-men brand to levy drastically lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skim Beeble Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Just now, WorkingonaName said: without fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said: That's over simplification, People like to see characters and actors that they like, and it's not just marvel fans. Also why wouldn't they, they like the actor playing the character, and they want more, why is wanting more of the thing you like is bad. I agree as long as these characters still have something interesting to tell/show. Doing a sequel just for the sake of it (money) is not cool. Edited July 23 by Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Porthos said: As a loooooong time fan of many many different fandoms. I can tell you that there ain't anything unique about Marvel fandom when it comes to their reaction to critical reviews. Oh, to be sure, what you're mentioning here might be a contributing factor and/or something of a force multiplier. But the "I don't care about reviews. No really. Let me tell you about how much I don't care about reviews for the next ten hours days weeks" is not exactly a unique occurance. That the MCU fandom is going through this experience? That there might be growing pains in not being used to such an experience? Okay, gonna agree with the point there. But, on the whole? Personally speaking, my interest on Reviews are because of the fact that they might affect the pre sales. Especially for Marvel movies where Reviews kinda match with audience, but I'm thinking this one should Buck the trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: We are already at the "Audience Score is all that Matters" strange with still no reviews out on RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Maggie said: I agree as long as these characters are still having something interesting to tell/show. Doing a sequel just for the sake of it (money) is not cool. Well we don't know if the movie has something interesting to tell or show or not yet. Reviwware not always about same thing, some may like or not like humour, some may like or not like multiverse stuff, and so on, some may or may not fimd emotions shallow or deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...