Biggest drop for a sequel??

[Kingp0va]

Which is the biggest drop a sequel (or the next part from a sequel)???

 

I'm not that box office saavy I guess power rangers 2 is one of them (went from 66m WW to 9m), out of recent movies Snow white had an over 50% loss for the sequel

[John Marston]

1 minute ago, Kingp0va said:

Which is the biggest drop a sequel (or the next part from a sequel)???

 

I'm not that box office saavy I guess power rangers 2 is one of them (went from 66m WW to 9m), out of recent movies Snow white had an over 50% loss for the sequel

 

 

http://www.pajiba.com/box_office_round-ups/the-20-biggest-boxoffice-dropoffs-between-an-original-movie-and-its-sequel.php

 

 

1. Exorcist II: The Heretic -- ($202 million)

2. The Empire Strikes Back -- ($170 million)

3. The Sting II -- ($150 million)

4. Evan Almighty -- ($142 million)

5. Happy Feet Too -- ($134 million)

6. Grease 2 -- ($128 million)

7. The Lost World: Jurassic Park -- ($128 million)

8. U.S. Marshals -- ($126 million)

9. xXx: State of the Union -- ($116 million)

10. Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 -- ($114 million)

11. Basic Instinct 2 -- ($111 million)

12. Son of the Mask -- ($102 million)

13. Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd -- ($101 million)

14. More American Graffiti -- ($100 million)

15. The Godfather: Part II ($84 million)

16. Analyze That -- ($74 million)

17. Speed 2: Cruise Control -- ($73 million)

18. Honey I Blew Up the Kids -- ($72 million)

19. Graffiti Bridge -- ($64 million)

20. The Ring 2 -- ($56 million)

 

Edited July 5, 2017 by John Marston

[ChipDerby]

We talking percentages or dollars?

[grim22]

9 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

http://www.pajiba.com/box_office_round-ups/the-20-biggest-boxoffice-dropoffs-between-an-original-movie-and-its-sequel.php

 

 

1. Exorcist II: The Heretic -- ($202 million)

2. The Empire Strikes Back -- ($170 million)

3. The Sting II -- ($150 million)

4. Evan Almighty -- ($142 million)

5. Happy Feet Too -- ($134 million)

6. Grease 2 -- ($128 million)

7. The Lost World: Jurassic Park -- ($128 million)

8. U.S. Marshals -- ($126 million)

9. xXx: State of the Union -- ($116 million)

10. Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 -- ($114 million)

11. Basic Instinct 2 -- ($111 million)

12. Son of the Mask -- ($102 million)

13. Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd -- ($101 million)

14. More American Graffiti -- ($100 million)

15. The Godfather: Part II ($84 million)

16. Analyze That -- ($74 million)

17. Speed 2: Cruise Control -- ($73 million)

18. Honey I Blew Up the Kids -- ($72 million)

19. Graffiti Bridge -- ($64 million)

20. The Ring 2 -- ($56 million)

 

 

My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 would slot in at #2 on this list. It fell 180M between installments.

[Kingp0va]

10 minutes ago, ChipMunky said:

We talking percentages or dollars?

%

 

Thanks grim, i meant % but yeah i guess basic instinct may take it

Edited July 5, 2017 by Kingp0va

[Barnack]

Jaws seem to be missing on that list (nearly 200m down I think).

 

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	Jaws	Uni.	$260,000,000	675	$7,061,513	409	6/20/75
2	Jaws 2	Uni.	$77,737,272	640	$9,866,023	640	6/16/78
3	Jaws 3-D	Uni.	$45,517,055	1,311	$13,422,500	1,300	7/22/83
4	Jaws IV: The Revenge	Uni.	$20,763,013	1,611	$7,154,890	1,606	7/17/87
5	Jaws 2 (1980 re-issue) (Re-release)	Uni.	$4,028,735	26	$1,382,756	26	2/15/80

[George Parr]

The number for Empire strikes Back is also a bit misleading. That difference is the post-SE number, not the drop at the time of release.

 

The original Star Wars made 221m in its original release, adding around 44m in its first re-release that may or may not have started when the first run hadn't even been entirely over, before making another 22.5m in another re-release in 1979. So depending on how you count, ANH stood at 221m, 265m or 288m. ESB, meanwhile, reached 181m in its first release.

 

ANH added another 17m in 1981 and 18m in 1982, ESB added 27m in 1981 and 14.5m in 1982. After this, ANH was basically exactly 100m ahead of ESB. The next and only further re-release for both was the Special Edition in 1997, with ANH adding 138m and ESB ~68m.

 

So while it is technically true that ESB stands at 170m below ANH, it would be kind of odd to count that as the drop from one to the other, seeing how a sizeable part of that only came 15-20 years after release, and you wouldn't really want to wait 20 years to find out how much a movie dropped from its predecessor.

 

Looking at the drops in terms of percentages is a better way to judge it anyway. If TLJ would finish with "only" 725m it would be a drop of over 200m, yet a normal drop in terms of percentage. Have a movie that made 220m drop to 20m with its sequel is a whole lot harsher. The whole thing gets worse the lower the numbers of the original are.

Edited July 5, 2017 by George Parr

[junkshop36]

1 hour ago, John Marston said:

 

 

http://www.pajiba.com/box_office_round-ups/the-20-biggest-boxoffice-dropoffs-between-an-original-movie-and-its-sequel.php

 

 

1. Exorcist II: The Heretic -- ($202 million)

2. The Empire Strikes Back -- ($170 million)

3. The Sting II -- ($150 million)

4. Evan Almighty -- ($142 million)

5. Happy Feet Too -- ($134 million)

6. Grease 2 -- ($128 million)

7. The Lost World: Jurassic Park -- ($128 million)

8. U.S. Marshals -- ($126 million)

9. xXx: State of the Union -- ($116 million)

10. Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 -- ($114 million)

11. Basic Instinct 2 -- ($111 million)

12. Son of the Mask -- ($102 million)

13. Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd -- ($101 million)

14. More American Graffiti -- ($100 million)

15. The Godfather: Part II ($84 million)

16. Analyze That -- ($74 million)

17. Speed 2: Cruise Control -- ($73 million)

18. Honey I Blew Up the Kids -- ($72 million)

19. Graffiti Bridge -- ($64 million)

20. The Ring 2 -- ($56 million)

 

 

That Empire number is deceiving. That's the difference after the SEs were released. When ESB was released, ANH had grossed 307m. ESB did 209m. They should base it on first run, which would actually make that gap between the two A LOT smaller. 

[TalismanRing]

2 hours ago, Barnack said:

Jaws seem to be missing on that list (nearly 200m down I think).

 

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	Jaws	Uni.	$260,000,000	675	$7,061,513	409	6/20/75
2	Jaws 2	Uni.	$77,737,272	640	$9,866,023	640	6/16/78
3	Jaws 3-D	Uni.	$45,517,055	1,311	$13,422,500	1,300	7/22/83
4	Jaws IV: The Revenge	Uni.	$20,763,013	1,611	$7,154,890	1,606	7/17/87
5	Jaws 2 (1980 re-issue) (Re-release)	Uni.	$4,028,735	26	$1,382,756	26	2/15/80

 

Big in $s but enormous in % ~ 70% drop

 

Even worse, there's The Exorcist -  $193m drop to $30.749m for the sequel  ~ 85% drop

 

 

1	The Exorcist	WB	$193,000,000	-	n/a	-	12/26/73
2	Exorcist: The Beginning	WB	$41,821,986	2,813	$18,054,001	2,803	8/20/04
3	The Exorcist Director's Cut (Re-release)	WB	$39,671,011	1,708	$8,175,666	664	9/22/00
4	Exorcist II: The Heretic	WB	$30,749,142	703	$6,735,000	703	6/17/77
5	The Exorcist III	Fox	$26,098,824	1,414	$9,312,219	1,288	8/17/90
6	Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist	WB	$251,495	110	$140,703	110	5/20/05

[John Marston]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

 

My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 would slot in at #2 on this list. It fell 180M between installments.

 

 

also Independence Day 2 with its 203m drop

[ZeeSoh]

Another recent one is Alice through the looking glass that fell 257m or about 77% drop

Edited July 5, 2017 by ZeeSoh

[Jake Gittes]

1 hour ago, ZeeSoh said:

Another recent one is Alice through the looking glass that fell 257m or about 77% drop

 

That's gotta take the cake, at least domestically. 

[AJG]

Sin City 2

 

$160 mil to $34m