Tuesday Numbers (Dec 26): TLJ 27.7, Jumanji: 17.1, PP3 7.4, TGS 5.1 (actuals/estimates)

[cannastop]

4 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Considering we had the poster who is convinced Disney is cooking the books in regards to TLJ post earlier here: low bar is low.

 

Link pls.

[FantasticBeasts]

13 minutes ago, Sand-omJC said:

Avatar 2 < 1b china.

Hmm yeah I am starting to feel pessimistic lately too...

[BoilingHotCoffee]

Avatar 2 $69B WW

[RandomCat]

4 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Considering we had the poster who is convinced Disney is cooking the books in regards to TLJ post earlier here: low bar is low.

 

Just makes it more challenging to go as low as possible without going under. 

[IronJimbo]

Just now, LinksterAC said:

People really should not discount exchange rates.  In that respect, Avatar released in just about the perfect climate. 

The dollar was incredibly weak in early 2010.

Ticket price inflation covers this.

[cannastop]

Just now, Porthos said:

More BOM numbers, mixture of estimates and actuals:

Damn Disney making employees give the actuals. At least Sony gives people a break. /s

[cannastop]

Just now, BoilingHotCoffee said:

Avatar 2 $69B WW

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

Link pls.

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/25292-tuesday-numbers-dec-26-tlj-277-jumanji-17-pp3-74-tgs-51-actuals-trickling-in/?do=findComment&comment=3315893

 

(more where that came from in the main TLJ thread about a week back or so)

Poster got told to knock it off by the Admins, so we probably should let sleeping dogs lie.  Check the users post history though and you'll find what I'm talking about.

 

[RandomCat]

3 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Link pls.

Like legit thought TLJ should be over 1b dom.

[KP1025]

After witnessing Wolf Warriors 2's  $850 million performance in China, I strongly believe Avatar 2 will pass $1 billion in China. It's hard to imagine for people who don't follow the Chinese box office, but Avatar is on a whole other level from any other film franchise there in popularity. That would all but lock up $2 billion worldwide for Avatar 2.

[LinksterAC]

6 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Ticket price inflation covers this.

It *could* cover this. 

The dollar could also take a dive and give A2 a huge boost. 

Or it can get stronger (like it was two years ago) and seriously hinder its OS gross.

 

The point is, you don't know what XR will be in two years, so this statement doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

And, of course, this all assumes Avatar 2 manages to sell the same number of tickets as the original did.

 

Edit:

 

And for the record, I'll probably join your club, but you're counting chickens before your eggs have hatched.

Edited December 27, 2017 by LinksterAC

[BoilingHotCoffee]

6 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Damn Disney making employees give the actuals. At least Sony gives people a break. /s

damn Disney making me work New Years Day too

[MrGamer]

5 minutes ago, Porthos said:

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/25292-tuesday-numbers-dec-26-tlj-277-jumanji-17-pp3-74-tgs-51-actuals-trickling-in/?do=findComment&comment=3315893

 

(more where that came from in the main TLJ thread about a week back or so)

Poster got told to knock it off by the Admins, so we probably should let sleeping dogs lie.  Check the users post history though and you'll find what I'm talking about.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Sand-omJC said:

Like legit thought TLJ should be over 1b dom.

You guys better watch out or he'll delete your complacent appraisals. 

[NoLegMan]

8 minutes ago, Porthos said:

More BOM numbers, mixture of estimates and actuals:

 

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Rank* Title Monday 12/25 Tuesday 12/26 Wednesday 12/27 Thursday 12/28 1 STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Buena Vista 4,232 $27,459,557 +55.8% / $6,489 $395,627,411 / 11 $27,734,356 +1% / $6,553 $423,361,767 / 12 N/A N/A 2 JUMANJI: WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE Sony / Columbia 3,765 $19,000,000 (estimate) +109.7% / $5,046 $72,005,967 / 6 $17,100,000 (estimate) -10% / $4,542 $89,105,967 / 7 N/A N/A 3 PITCH PERFECT 3 Universal 3,447 $6,496,365 +146.7% / $1,885 $26,424,890 / 4 $7,445,505 +14.6% / $2,160 $33,870,395 / 5 N/A N/A 4 THE GREATEST SHOWMAN Fox 3,006 $5,604,273 +161.8% / $1,864 $19,008,847 / 6 $5,138,347 -8.3% / $1,709 $24,147,194 / 7 N/A N/A 5 FERDINAND Fox 3,630 $2,801,780 +83.7% / $772 $29,601,410 / 11 $4,000,815 +42.8% / $1,102 $33,602,225 / 12 N/A N/A 6 COCO Buena Vista 2,111 $2,805,466 +112.6% / $1,329 $164,307,743 / 34 $2,746,967 -2.1% / $1,301 $167,054,710 / 35 N/A N/A 7 DOWNSIZING Paramount 2,668 $2,715,843 +135% / $1,018 $7,670,130 / 4 $1,926,413 -29.1% / $722 $9,596,543 / 5 N/A N/A 8 ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD TriStar 2,068 $2,600,000 (estimate) -- / $1,257 $2,600,000 / 1 $1,760,000 (estimate) -32.3% / $851 $4,360,000 / 2 N/A N/A 9 DARKEST HOUR Focus Features 806 $1,622,510 +73% / $2,013 $8,367,532 / 34 $1,518,300 -6.4% / $1,884 $9,885,832 / 35 N/A N/A 10 FATHER FIGURES Warner Bros. 2,902 $2,200,000 (estimate) +201.4% / $758 $5,480,000 / 4 $1,445,000 (estimate) -34.3% / $498 $6,925,000 / 5 N/A N/A 11 THE SHAPE OF WATER Fox Searchlight 730 $1,419,891 +95.4% / $1,945 $8,986,046 / 25 $1,140,599 -19.7% / $1,562 $10,126,645 / 26 N/A N/A 12 WONDER Lionsgate 794 $710,214 +76.6% / $894 $115,654,826 / 39 $880,000 (estimate) +23.9% / $1,108 $116,534,826 / 40 N/A N/A - MOLLY'S GAME STX Entertainment 271 $1,042,075 -- / $3,845 $1,042,075 / 1 $668,250 -35.9% / $2,466 $1,710,325 / 2 N/A N/A - JUSTICE LEAGUE Warner Bros. 1,101 $450,000 (estimate) +83.7% / $409 $223,133,455 / 39 $440,000 (estimate) -2.2% / $400 $223,573,455 / 40 N/A N/A - DADDY'S HOME 2 Paramount 1,073 $544,612 +149.5% / $508 $99,751,582 / 46 $433,169 -20.5% / $404 $100,184,751 / 47 N/A N/A - LADY BIRD A24 372 $415,989 +60.4% / $1,118 $28,715,314 / 53 $428,468 +3% / $1,152 $29,143,782 / 54 N/A N/A - THOR: RAGNAROK Buena Vista 701 $329,457 +64.3% / $470 $309,454,093 / 53 $330,578 +0.3% / $472 $309,784,671 / 54 N/A N/A - THE DISASTER ARTIST A24 488 $325,057 +77.2% / $666 $16,020,034 / 25 $315,305 -3% / $646 $16,335,339 / 26 N/A N/A - MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS (2017) Fox 361 $203,411 +58.3% / $563 $99,444,878 / 46 $195,017 -4.1% / $540 $99,639,895 / 47 N/A N/A - THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI Fox Searchlight 264 $207,975 +42.5% / $788 $22,949,085 / 46 $187,107 -10% / $709 $23,136,192 / 47 N/A N/A - THE POST Fox 9 $236,046 +35.2% / $26,227 $762,057 / 4 $156,610 -33.7% / $17,401 $918,667 / 5 N/A N/A - PHANTOM THREAD Focus Features 4 $127,272 -- / $31,818 $127,272 / 1 $66,733 -47.6% / $16,683 $194,005 / 2 N/A N/A - A BAD MOMS CHRISTMAS STX Entertainment 275 $60,302 +121.9% / $219 $71,571,546 / 55 $57,638 -4.4% / $210 $71,629,184 / 56 N/A N/A - THE FLORIDA PROJECT A24 43 $9,430 +45.9% / $219 $5,204,890 / 81 $13,108 +39% / $305 $5,217,998 / 82 N/A N/A - HOSTILES Entertainment Studios 3 $9,606 +64.5% / $3,202 $32,455 / 4 $4,834 -49.7% / $1,611 $37,289 / 5 N/A N/A - VICTORIA AND ABDUL Focus Features 24 $2,840 +114.3% / $118 $22,205,730 / 95 $4,405 +55.1% / $184 $22,210,135 / 96 N/A N/A - MARSHALL Open Road Films 58 $1,937 +82.9% / $33 $9,450,507 / 74 $2,532 +30.7% / $44 $9,453,039 / 75 N/A N/A - THE KILLING OF A SACRED DEER A24 8 $602 +3.4% / $75 $2,289,085 / 67 $1,008 +67.4% / $126 $2,290,093 / 68 N/A N/A - LET THERE BE LIGHT Atlas Distribution 8 $736 +1.1% / $92 $7,203,504 / 60 $304 -58.7% / $38 $7,203,808 / 61 N/A N/A

Downsizing downsized a lot more today.

[KP1025]

Interesting. Why such a huge bump for Ferdinand but not other family films? 

[cannastop]

2 minutes ago, NoLegMan said:

Downsizing downsized a lot more today.

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, KP1025 said:

Interesting. Why such a huge bump for Ferdinand but not other family films? 

Who knows? Maybe it has to do with more theaters and more screen times than the other ones.

[MrGamer]

2 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

Interesting. Why such a huge bump for Ferdinand but not other family films? 

Cena kicking out at two again.

 

Spoiler

Only wrestling fans will understand that joke. 

 

[Porthos]

 

[LinksterAC]

9 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

After witnessing Wolf Warriors 2's  $850 million performance in China, I strongly believe Avatar 2 will pass $1 billion in China. It's hard to imagine for people who don't follow the Chinese box office, but Avatar is on a whole other level from any other film franchise there in popularity. That would all but lock up $2 billion worldwide for Avatar 2.

That would be pretty awesome to see, particularly since the highest foreign grosser in China right now doesn't even crack the $400M threshold.

 

I don't follow China super closely, but don't foreign films only have about a month in the theaters?