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    Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $2,417,425 -66% 3,849 $628   $293,730,029 28
2 (4) The Post 20th Century Fox $2,168,347 -41% 2,819 $769   $29,713,238 26
3 (6) The Commuter Lionsgate $1,418,728 -32% 2,892 $491   $17,214,627 5
4 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $1,403,721 -62% 2,938 $478   $100,335,176 28
5 (5) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $1,103,853 -60% 3,090 $357   $596,006,158 33
6 (7) Insidious: The Last Key Universal $937,045 -52% 3,150 $297   $51,531,950 12
7 (2) Paddington 2 Warner Bros. $743,704 -81% 3,702 $201   $15,747,063 5
8 (8) Proud Mary Sony Pictures $733,308 -58% 2,125 $345   $12,434,748 5
9 (12) Darkest Hour Focus Features $526,445 -45% 1,693 $311   $37,157,717 56
10 (10) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $504,735 -62% 2,505 $201   $96,830,910 26
11 (13) Molly’s Game STX Entertainment $484,311 -35% 1,708 $284   $21,931,887 23
- (14) I, Tonya Neon $313,387 -56% 517 $606   $10,969,043 40
13 (15) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $308,726 -50% 723 $427   $27,482,485 47
14 (-) Three Billboards Outside Eb… Fox Searchlight $288,750 -48% 1,022 $283   $29,572,630 68
15 (11) Coco Walt Disney $273,831 -79% 1,362 $201   $198,435,809 56
16 (9) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $241,834 -82% 3,156 $77   $77,132,950 33
- (-) Lady Bird A24 $164,065 -58% 652 $252   $37,537,940 75
- (-) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $158,181 -39% 1,408 $112   $23,469,048 23
- (-) Wonder Lionsgate $122,655 -71% 970 $126   $129,139,157 61
- (-) Phantom Thread Focus Features $115,150 -53% 62 $1,857   $2,588,204 23
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And J and TGS continue to amaze. Those week to week Tuesday holds are only about -32% and -26% respectively. And both have proven to be weekend movies, meaning we should be able to expect drops softer than that for both this weekend. 

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How much does J likely have left OS? Wonder if it can hit 850 WW? Sony's profit on it is going to be massive. They may not have even seen this kind of a profit from Skyfall, considering that had a $200m budget and huge marketing campaign. Could very well be their largest profit ever. 

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Kind of random, but looking over Sony's top grossers, I never realized just how much MIB2 really underperformed compared to the first, both DOM and OS. Especially given 5 years worth of significant ticket price inflation. The wait between must have been too long. Should have probably done it two years sooner. All things considered, MIB3 actually did really well.

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28 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

How much does J likely have left OS? Wonder if it can hit 850 WW? Sony's profit on it is going to be massive. They may not have even seen this kind of a profit from Skyfall, considering that had a $200m budget and huge marketing campaign. Could very well be their largest profit ever. 

They made less on Skyfall (57m) than on Grown Up (71.4m) or Superbad (88m), Skyfall was not really a Sony movie like those 2.

 

There largest Sony profits in recent history are

Spider Man 3: $188m (that $154m in bonus and Marvel share did hurt that bottom line quite a bit of that $340m gross margin)

Vinci code: $178m ($130m went away in bonus to the big names of the $310m gross margin)

 

I would imagine Spider 1-2 were above that by a big amount but they were not in the leak.

 

Has for most profitable ever, I imagine it could be in consideration, but the first 2 Spider-Man depending of how much wetn to Marvel obviously, but those merchandise and dvd/vhs sales were nuts:

 

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20021105/spider-man-repeats-success-in-video-and-dvd-sales-rentals

The release of “Spider-Man” on DVD and VHS eclipsed other movies as the comic book web-slinger snared $190 million in three days of retail sales this weekend.

 

That is one market and the margin to the studio were the best (for dvds),  2004 was arguably the peak to make money in the domestic market, not even adjusted (that was a 28.5b home ent market, around 42% ! bigger than today if we take inflation into account)

 

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Just now, B D Joe said:

It wasn't the five years, MIB 2 was just one of the most dissappointing sequels ever.

I don't know the OW is disappointing too though, barely beat the first's OW in spite of the significant inflation and how much bigger in general OWs were becoming in the early '00s vs the 90's. And this was way before RT and instant internet/social media WOM could affect a films OW, so that had nothing to do with the quality. 

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4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

All things considered, MIB3 actually did really well.

The studio actually lost 28m on that one, it was budgeted to do 760m WW, it was expected to break even at 625m but it didn't achieve to get has good has an retention rate the studio expected and kind of flopped on home video.

 

MIB 3 and Angels&Demons loosing the studio moneys (while movies like The Other Guys made studio moneys) are 2 big example: We never know, people from the exterior, except from the most obvious case if a movie was profitable and for who.

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3 minutes ago, Barnack said:

They made less on Skyfall (57m) than on Grown Up (71.4m) or Superbad (88m), Skyfall was not really a Sony movie like those 2.

 

There largest Sony profits in recent history are

Spider Man 3: 188m (that 154m in bonus and Marvel share did hurt that bottom line quite a bit)

Vinci code: 178m (130m went away in bonus to the big names)

 

I would imagine Spider 1-2 were above that by a big amount but they were not in the leak.

I'd have to imagine they'd see a profit of at least 400m on Jumanji. Unless The Rock and Hart are getting a large chunk of the profit. 

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4 minutes ago, Barnack said:

The studio actually lost 28m on that one, it was budgeted to do 760m WW, it was expected to break even at 625m but it didn't achieve to get has good has an retention rate the studio expected and kind of flopped on home video.

 

MIB 3 and Angels&Demons loosing the studio moneys (while movies like The Other Guys made studio moneys) are 2 big example: We never know, people from the exterior, except from the most obvious case if a movie was profitable and for who.

Oh yikes, didn't notice that budget for MIB3. Who the hell approved that? Smith must have demanded something absurd for it to be that high. 

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39 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Oh yikes, didn't notice that budget for MIB3. Who the hell approved that? Smith must have demanded something absurd for it to be that high. 

Smith, Jones, Spielberg, the director, the writers, the movie was giving 90m in bonus before the studio made is first cent (and the co-financiers still 11m in the red)

 

That make the effective budget of the movie at break even point: 340m net. That movie was announced in 2009, still in the bubbles were studio were ready to give a lot to keep people away from the dvd money that just went away a bit surprisingly on them.

 

41 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I'd have to imagine they'd see a profit of at least 400m on Jumanji. Unless The Rock and Hart are getting a large chunk of the profit. 

They must be getting healthy points yes (johnson production company is involved after all), 400m in profit is a lot for just one players, Radar Picture, Johnson production company and other people will get a share, to give an idea big studio like universal made 697 million gross profit for all their filmed entertainment in 2016 and 1,234m in their giant 2015 year, that include Fandango and revenus made from all the movies libraries not just the new one.

 

1,234m for the Jurassic World + Furious 7 + minions + pitch perfect 2 + 50 shades of grey + straitght out comption + trainwreck + their movies libraries (obviously some of that success bleed into the 2016 result also)

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