BLACK PANTHER WEEKEND THREAD | Current Estimates - 202.4M 3-day / 242.6M 4-day | Record 40.167 Monday; more than TFA!

[Fancyarcher]

1 minute ago, Spidey Freak said:

I think the DCEU "Phase 1" structure was fine. Doubt we needed yet another Batman solo reboot before JL. BvS and SS's massive OW's despite everything showed people didn't want a total replication of the MCU method. It was the actual films not named Wonder Woman that left much to be desired. 

 

Regarding Cyborg, I think the problem is that he is nowhere near the most popular or interesting black superhero even at DC. Geoff Johns is simply pushing him because the character is one of his personal favorites. John Stewart GL, Vixen, Black Lightning and his daughters, Static Shock etc. have far more potential IMO.

I had issue with the execution too. I guess in theory it wasn't so bad.

Also I think John Stewart could make for a good solo Green Lantern in a film, especially if they used his "marine" background. I think I'd prefer that over a Cyborg film. 

[That One Girl]

7 minutes ago, Chewy said:

 

Oh hey you made one Sundance movie that ppl kinda liked? Come direct a Star War or Spider-Man 7

 

literally had never heard of Cop Car until I saw the director of Spider Man Homecoming did a film called that

[grey ghost]

I wonder what Perlmutter would've thought of that Black Panther script and budget.

[Eric Prime]

31 minutes ago, Chewy said:

 

Yea fast-tracking Cyborg or something as a response to a Marvel breakout is kind of what got them into their recent mess that they're trying to dig out of

I'm honestly glad that DC didn't fast-track Gotham City Sirens after WW's success. The idea of David Ayer, the dudebro-iest of directors, and that's saying a lot, making a female villain team-up movie is just...wrong.

 

[Jonwo]

3 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

Regarding Cyborg, I think the problem is that he is nowhere near the most popular or interesting black superhero even at DC. Geoff Johns is simply pushing him because the character is one of his personal favorites. John Stewart GL, Vixen, Black Lightning and his daughters, Static Shock etc. have far more potential IMO.

I'm curious how Black Manta is received in Aquaman, I know he's a villain but he's one of DC's iconic black characters. 

[Cmasterclay]

2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

literally had never heard of Cop Car until I saw the director of Spider Man Homecoming did a film called that

Spider Man Homecoming had a director? Judging by its blocking and visual style  I assumed it was put together by whatever line producer hit the record button that day

[grey ghost]

Why do people think Saturday's numbers are going to be on the low end of Asgard's estimates?

[Fancyarcher]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

I wonder what Perlmutter would've thought of that Black Panther script and budget.

He'd probably complain about their being too many good female roles, and not enough characters that can sell toys!

[Jonwo]

3 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

I had issue with the execution too. I guess in theory it wasn't so bad.

Also I think John Stewart could make for a good solo Green Lantern in a film, especially if they used his "marine" background. I think I'd prefer that over a Cyborg film. 

I think the likelihood of John Stewart getting a solo GL film is zero, I think co-leading GLC is more realistic if they go the Lethal Weapon or Training Day route. I'd prefer to see Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz Green Lantern movie but I can't see WB/DC unsurping Hal Jordan

[That One Girl]

4 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Spider Man Homecoming had a director? Judging by its blocking and visual style  I assumed it was put together by whatever line producer hit the record button that day

 

I imagine he wandered on set by mistake and Marvel said “hey this dude has made an indie film with a few decent reviews, give him the rest of the film to work on.”  Which is marvel’s way of claiming that they promote “up and coming talent”

Edited February 18, 2018 by That One Guy

[RRA]

16 minutes ago, Orestes said:

They also wanted to axe the music from GotG.

Gunn also said an exec tried to convince him to use modern pop songs instead. 

 

 

[Chewy]

Just now, RRA said:

Gunn also said an exec tried to convince him to use modern pop songs instead. 

 

 

guardians of the galaxy but set to Hailee Steinfeld

[aabattery]

Moderation:

 

Please don't post any spoilers for Black Panther. This includes quoting lines from the film if they were not in the marketing.

[Fancyarcher]

3 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I think the likelihood of John Stewart getting a solo GL film is zero, I think co-leading GLC is more realistic if they go the Lethal Weapon or Training Day route. I'd prefer to see Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz Green Lantern movie but I can't see WB/DC unsurping Hal Jordan

Oh I know. Just as a Hal fan, I wouldn't mind John being the GL in Justice League, even if Jordan is probably gonna be the main GL. It worked in the show, it could work in a film too. 

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, Chewy said:

guardians of the galaxy but set to Hailee Steinfeld

Modern pop songs, not modern flop songs. 

[grey ghost]

9 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

He'd probably complain about their being too many good female roles, and not enough characters that can sell toys!

That's the PG, politically correct, redacted version of what he probably said.

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, Chewy said:

guardians of the galaxy but set to Hailee Steinfeld

 

obligatory @WrathOfHan tag

[Eric Prime]

5 minutes ago, Chewy said:

guardians of the galaxy but set to Hailee Steinfeld

@WrathOfHan

 

If you say some silly-ass remark that "If Qween waz innit, then the movie would be better," I will buy a plane ticket all the way to Florida, track you down, and roundhouse kick you in the face.

[That One Girl]

5 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

If Qween waz innit, then the movie would be better,

 

read this in Tommy Wiseau’s voice

[RRA]

5 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I think the likelihood of John Stewart getting a solo GL film is zero, I think co-leading GLC is more realistic if they go the Lethal Weapon or Training Day route. I'd prefer to see Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz Green Lantern movie but I can't see WB/DC unsurping Hal Jordan

Not to mention Johns has an unhealthy boner for Jordan. Meh. 

 

My feeling about how the Cyborg movie came about was this: Besides Johns' boner for him too, they looked at the potential JL movie roster and went ok we need a black member. And give him a movie just so we can stick it to Marvel (remember this was before BP was ever announced). The most obvious choice (one that George Miller would've went with if his JL film hadn't been canned) was of course Stewart's GL. And why not? He was the Lantern on the popular JL cartoon series and fans liked him. Hell when the movie came about and Reynolds was casted as Jordan, alot of folks online complained, unaware that traditionally GL in the comics who headlined that book *was* white whether Jordan or Ratner. For that people who watched that cartoon, GL *was* black. 

 

So anyway why didn't they do Stewart/GL? Because Johns and others at WB/DC wanted *Jordan* to be quote THE Green Lantern on the roster. Simple as that. So if you won't do the GL film around him, where else do you look? Steel wasn't happening (his movie was a big dud), Vixen? Nah. Yada yada, then came upon Cyborg. New 52 made him the "rookie" of that JL roster compared to your main eventers like Supes/Bats/whatever. Ding ding, that's the answer.