Jurassic World: Dominion | June 10 2022 | 6th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

[Alex SciChannel]

14 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

That's no metric which says that Jurassic World is not the best Jurassic movie after TLW.

 

Critically it is the only non rotten Jurassic movie after JP

 

Commercially it's the biggest success after JP

 

This new-found revisionist history that Reddit and Social media has created that Jurassic World sucks, new trilogy sucks is just nonsense, Jurassic World is still one of the most loved Blockbusters of last decade. 

I agree. JP fans as well as the GP loved JW when it came out. The GP still love it but a certain type of JP fan now hates it after trying to rehabilitate JP3 as if it's impossible to like both at once.

Edited June 8, 2022 by Alex SciChannel

[THUNDER BIRD]

2 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

I agree. JP fans as well as the GP loved JW when it came out. The GP still love it but a certain type of JP fan now hates it after trying to rehabilitate JP3 as if it's impossible to like both at once.

It's funny how Fallen Kingdom is a villain movie and a movie which doesn't have a whole 3rd act is an underrated hero.

 

And no, this ridiculous response of World movies not having spirit of JP is just nonsense too..... Both World movies and from reaction Dominion is closer to Chrichton's novels than Jurassic Park 3. 

 

 

[Brainbug]

Just came back from seeing it.

 

I really liked it overall. Short summary would be: Its one of the stupidest movies ive ever seen, but its mostly the entertaining kind of stupid, so i didnt mind. The story and dialogue are at times good, but at other times ... very funny. The action was either awesome or a mess. Editing was like a Jason Bourne film at times and the pacing is too fast in the first act. The last act of the movie is unquestionably the strongest, there it really feels like a Jurassic Park film through and through.

 

Now, as a Jurassic Park fanboy, there are many aspects of this movie i cant rate objectively. I see a dinosaur, my mind goes "Yes, i love it." I think when it comes to dinosaurs, this is the movie with the highest amount of scenes with them. Theres also some guest starts i didnt expect in one of the best scenes, that was cool. But you shoudnt come into this, expecting scene after scene of dinosaurs in the real world. This is not what the movie is about and i think the marketing tricked people here, which imo could become a problem for WOM.

 

The old trio had the best character dynamic and looking at the whole thing, they were used in a satiesfying way that pleased my fanboy heart. The World characters were solid (Claire is a standout), with Maisie surprisingly beeing the best. I like that they didnt just botch that storyline from Fallen Kingdom. I know many hate it, but i really dont mind. This franchise was always not about dinosaurs per se, but the things humans do when greed is at play with new technologies.

 

I must say i was very nervous going into it because of all the negative reactions, but it really isnt that bad. This is not Batman v Superman level at all. Sure, there are tons of scenes that one can easily make fun of and nitpick and when it comes to the suspense scenes, its a far cry from the first Jurassic Park and Lost World. But im just honest, i dont care that the script is bad i wanted to have fun and i did have a lot of fun. There are only a few things that actually bothered me a bit, but they are spoiler territory.

 

As a JP/JW fan, this is an easy 8/10. As a movie, if im honest, its a 5,5 or 6/10. Its a big dumb dinosaur movie. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Oh and ive accepted a possible underperformance at the box office from it. I dont really care tbh anymore, as long as it can be considered a hit and not a failure i will be happy. For me, the most important thing was that i like it and the movie succeded with that.

 

 

[poweranimals]

When does the review ebargo release for the US?

[XXR vs XXR]

4 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

When does the review ebargo release for the US?

About 40 minutes 

[Brainbug]

3 minutes ago, T-ReXXR said:

About 40 minutes 

 

Reviews will tear it apart. The biggest weakpoints are the script, the editing and honestly, kind of the story itself. I cant see a score above 40% for this happening.

Edited June 8, 2022 by Brainbug the Dinosaur

[John Marston]

4 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

 

Reviews will tear it apart. The biggest weakpoints are the script, the editing and honestly, kind of the story itself. I cant see a score above 40% for this happening.

 

 

so they fucked up completely then? Damn

[THUNDER BIRD]

3 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

 

Reviews will tear it apart. The biggest weakpoints are the script, the editing and honestly, kind of the story itself. I cant see a score above 40% for this happening.

Movie critics, the biggest enemy of cinema.

 

The most useless breed of people who are involved in showbiz. 

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

 

 

so they fucked up completely then? Damn

They fucked up or not will be decided by Audience reception, but critical reception.

 

If Audience reception is good then movie is good, if it isn't then it doesn't matter if critics call it greatest movie of all time.

[Brainbug]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

so they fucked up completely then? Damn

 

Imo, they didnt. The movie worked for me. But im certain that most critics wont share my opinion, so ... yep, rotten it is.

[Alex SciChannel]

6 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

 

Imo, they didnt. The movie worked for me. But im certain that most critics wont share my opinion, so ... yep, rotten it is.

The movie worked for me too but I thought it was thr weakest of the JW films. My audience loved it though and the families I asked said it was the best of the JW films. How was your audience?

[ThomasNicole]

4 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Movie critics, the biggest enemy of cinema.

 

The most useless breed of people who are involved in showbiz. 

Why you get so offended everytime someone dislike this movie? 

 

Lots of these people study, they know what they're talking about. Obviously there is personal taste there but it's a very helpful guide to pick movies to watch, especially these days where there's too much things happening at the same time.

 

Seriously, in an industry struggling to make original projects and completely depending of big franchises, the biggest enemy is the critics? Just because they probably won't like the movie you're rooting for? 

 

This will probably gross a billion or so, it's coming to dominate theaters, and you can very loved it no matter what grade it gets, but still you keep treating this like some underdog project that is under attack from mean movie critics and people who didn't like it.

[Brainbug]

7 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

The movie worked for me too but I thought it was thr weakest of the JW films. My audience loved it though and the families I asked said it was the best of the JW films. How was your audience?

 

It was a german audience so ... it was mostly quiet apart some laughter at certain moments. But actually, a few people (besides me ofc lol) clapped at the end, which happens not so often here. There were a lot of kids and they seemed to enjoy it. It wasnt a negative reaction in any case.

[THUNDER BIRD]

3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Treating this like some underdog project that is under attack from mean movie critics and people who didn't like it.

Check social media..... That is exactly the case, not an underdog, but attacked from everywhere..... Fast & Furious movies get more fanfare.

 

And coming to critics, it's not just this movie, I've been against critics since even i don't know how long. They don't know how to rate movies, they have obvious biases and they have agendas.

 

They will praise or bash movies on trivial matters or details that won't even matter, and sad part is that it does create a perception, right or wrong, but mostly wrong.

 

And i don't say critics should be out of work, they can rate movies as much as they want, but I'm a firm believer of critics to be able to watch movies on the day movie releases, on Friday morning.......... Not 3-4 days before.

 

 

[Alex SciChannel]

6 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Check social media..... That is exactly the case, not an underdog, but attacked from everywhere..... Fast & Furious movies get more fanfare.

 

And coming to critics, it's not just this movie, I've been against critics since even i don't know how long. They don't know how to rate movies, they have obvious biases and they have agendas.

 

They will praise or bash movies on trivial matters or details that won't even matter, and sad part is that it does create a perception, right or wrong, but mostly wrong.

 

And i don't say critics should be out of work, they can rate movies as much as they want, but I'm a firm believer of critics to be able to watch movies on the day movie releases, on Friday morning.......... Not 3-4 days before.

 

 

I believe early screenings are essential though for getting word of mouth out in the general public. Tbf it is kinds pointless when your movie releases a week early in other parts of the world.

[THUNDER BIRD]

And I'm a human being sir, not a robot, with emotions and all. I'm pretty rational in real life, but there are things where my rationality goes for a toss.

 

One of those things is this franchise..... I don't even know what I'll do if this underperforms.

[ThomasNicole]

1 minute ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Check social media..... That is exactly the case, not an underdog, but attacked from everywhere..... Fast & Furious movies get more fanfare.

 

And coming to critics, it's not just this movie, I've been against critics since even i don't know how long. They don't know how to rate movies, they have obvious biases and they have agendas.

 

They will praise or bash movies on trivial matters or details that won't even matter, and sad part is that it does create a perception, right or wrong, but mostly wrong.

 

And i don't say critics should be out of work, they can rate movies as much as they want, but I'm a firm believer of critics to be able to watch movies on the day movie releases, on Friday morning.......... Not 3-4 days before.

 

 

Or you know, people just like different things. 

 

There's no "right" way to rate movies. Critics aren't an entity that thinks the same and makes agreements to love or hate a movie, it's just people with some knowledge giving their opinions to help their audience as some kind of guide. 

 

If you usually thinks "their" opinions are trivial, you just have a different vision, it's normal, that doesn't make they're wrong or you right, it's literally just different opinions. If somehow this creates a negative perception the problem isn't on critics, it's on the people who opens Rotten Tomatoes and think everything under 60% is bad before watching it and having their own opinion.

 

And of course they have to receive things before, critics have to watch dozens of projects every week, they need time to do their job. 

 

I mean, this isn't the thread to do this and i'm not going to insist further in this subject, but as someone who works with movies i think your dismiss of this job comes from a place of lack of understanding and is somewhat offensive, critics never exist to determinate what's good or bad to everyone.

[scoobysaurus]

So any minute now the reviews will start dropping.. 🤔

[Brainbug]

Final RT prediction is still 33% for me.

[Grebacio]

wouldn't be shocked if this falls into the red area in Metacritic