Weekend Thread....Please read the staff announcement pg 104 (Solo 29.2...DP 23.3...Adrift 11.5)

[IronJimbo]

Just now, Brainbug said:

 

Do we know the exact budget? Wikipedia lists it at 250M, but it must be way more realistically. And adding the marketing costs on top of that budget means we coud maybe see losses of 100M+ for Disney.

More than that don't forget cinemas take a cut if the box office.

 

Say the budget was 250m then marketing was another 100m.

 

It would need about 700m to make a profit I would think.

[TalismanRing]

1 hour ago, Brainbug said:

Isnt this beautiful

 

Mar 9–15	2	$44,494,654	-	3,980	-	$11,180	$44,494,654	1
Mar 16–22	4	$21,347,953	-52.0%	3,980	-	$5,364	$65,842,607	2
Mar 23–29	6	$12,713,807	-40.4%	3,423	-557	$3,714	$78,556,414	3
Mar 30–Apr 5	7	$8,416,342	-33.8%	2,367	-1,056	$3,556	$86,972,756	4
Apr 6–12	12	$4,123,464	-51.0%	1,701	-666	$2,424	$91,096,220	5
Apr 13–19	15	$1,890,399	-54.2%	1,112	-589	$1,700	$92,986,619	6
Apr 20–26	17	$962,427	-49.1%	665	-447	$1,447	$93,949,046	7
Apr 27–May 3	13	$1,136,535	+18.1%	371	-294	$3,063	$95,085,581	8
May 4–10	18	$570,295	-49.8%	294	-77	$1,940	$95,655,876	9
May 11–17	12	$1,549,566	+172%	1,984	+1,690	$781	$97,205,442	10
May 18–24	25	$239,754	-84.5%	230	-1,754	$1,042	$97,445,196	11
May 25–31	19	$370,433	+54.5%	202	-28	$1,834	$97,815,629	12

Question is are they going for the third time's the charm Double Feature bump with a new Disney release with I2 or are they going to use that to try and boost up Solo? 

[Brainbug]

Just now, Valonqar said:

It's SW brand that makes it the biggest bomb of all times. Nobody expected that not even the most pessimistic expectations. So congrats, LF, your SW movie finally subverted expectations. 

 

Its not only because of the brand though. Even in raw numbers it could be the biggest moneylooser of all time. As far as i know, John Carter is the "champion" in that regard with Disney having a 200M writedown on that. Depending on Solos actual budget, theres a chance it could exceed that - which is mind-boggling.

[La Binoche]

The first negative review of Hereditary was added to RT and I have to say I agree with most of it. 

[boomboom234]

3 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Its not only because of the brand though. Even in raw numbers it could be the biggest moneylooser of all time. As far as i know, John Carter is the "champion" in that regard with Disney having a 200M writedown on that. Depending on Solos actual budget, theres a chance it could exceed that - which is mind-boggling.

It’s honestly impressive it should be studied on the future, how not to run a franchise 

[TalismanRing]

5 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Do we know the exact budget? Wikipedia lists it at 250M, but it must be way more realistically. And adding the marketing costs on top of that budget means we coud maybe see losses of 100M+ for Disney.

There have been bigger losses than that - several rather recently

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs

 

[boomboom234]

Just now, TalismanRing said:

There have been bigger losses than that - several rather recently

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs

 

I’ve seen 300 as the budget and the film will do less than 400 that’s over 200 million in losses that’s the biggest in history

[TalismanRing]

2 minutes ago, boomboom234 said:

I’ve seen 300 as the budget and the film will do less than 400 that’s over 200 million in losses that’s the biggest in history

$250m has been used more often and neither is official or comes from rebate docs so we won't know.  Similarly, there were reports BvS cost $250, $300m, and up to $400m

[InterHero1]

10 minutes ago, La Binoche said:

The first negative review of Hereditary was added to RT and I have to say I agree with most of it. 

I mostly agree with it aswell.

[harrycaul]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

$250m has been used more often and neither is official or comes from rebate docs so we won't know.  Similarly, there were reports BvS cost $250, $300m, and up to $400m

 

You don't understand. People want Solo to be the worst in history, so they'll just say it is.

 

Personally I think The Lone Ranger still has that tied up, but realistically we'll never know.

[boomboom234]

1 minute ago, harrycaul said:

 

You don't understand. People want Solo to be the worst in history, so they'll just say it is.

 

Personally I think The Lone Ranger still has that tied up, but realistically we'll never know.

I mean it sounds better if it is but it’s still a catastrophe either way so I’m good regardless 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, boomboom234 said:

I think it is 300 million budget less than 400 WW more than 200 million lost. It’s really impressive what Disney has done in just a few years 

 

If this is sarcasm, fine, but Disney has made huge money from SW since they bought it.  In fact, every film they have released has made a billion or more.  Solo bombing is a massive disappointment but Disney has made money hands over fist with their first three films.  4.3 billion to be exact.  They'll figure out what they did wrong and they will fix it for E9.  I have no doubts about this.  

[Nova]

You know it's bad when someone brings up the toy sales argument to try and defend a movie's box office run. 

[filmlover]

I'm guessing that Boba Fett movie from James Mangold is not gonna happen now. If Solo is pulling in these kinds of numbers, how well do they expect an even bigger no1curr project to do?

[Brainbug]

1 minute ago, baumer said:

 

If this is sarcasm, fine, but Disney has made huge money from SW since they bought it.  In fact, every film they have released has made a billion or more.  Solo bombing is a massive disappointment but Disney has made money hands over fist with their first three films.  4.3 billion to be exact.  They'll figure out what they did wrong and they will fix it for E9.  I have no doubts about this.  

 

Out of likes, but i think so too. Its always about the demand for a movie and there wasnt really any for a Young Han Solo movie for reasons we all have discussed more than enough. Its a big warning sign for Disney, but it wont hurt the SW brand in the long run.

[boomboom234]

Just now, baumer said:

 

If this is sarcasm, fine, but Disney has made huge money from SW since they bought it.  In fact, every film they have released has made a billion or more.  Solo bombing is a massive disappointment but Disney has made money hands over fist with their first three films.  4.3 billion to be exact.  They'll figure out what they did wrong and they will fix it for E9.  I have no doubts about this.  

I think the damage is done to a certain extent the franchise has peaked and it is clear Disney has no new ideas for the films at all they have capitalized on nostalgia and the old cast but that’s gone now. I don’t give them to much credit for 7 as two hours of anything with the old cast would have done gangbusters, TLJ had the worst December legs ever and pretty much collapsed post OW and now this. Lucasfilm needs to think a lot about their future but they won’t and going back to JJ Abrams makes that clear,

[boomboom234]

4 minutes ago, Nova said:

You know it's bad when someone brings up the toy sales argument to try and defend a movie's box office run. 

They aren’t even that good haha deadline just reported that 

 

Second, industry sources inform Deadline that Last Jedi missed its $600M merchandise revenue target with a $450M take.

[That One Girl]

Reminder again that y’all should go see Upgrade.  It’s really good!

[baumer]

3 hours ago, boomboom234 said:

I think the damage is done to a certain extent the franchise has peaked and it is clear Disney has no new ideas for the films at all they have capitalized on nostalgia and the old cast but that’s gone now. I don’t give them to much credit for 7 as two hours of anything with the old cast would have done gangbusters, TLJ had the worst December legs ever and pretty much collapsed post OW and now this. Lucasfilm needs to think a lot about their future but they won’t and going back to JJ Abrams makes that clear,

 

I don't care what the reasons are, TLJ made 1.3 billion.  People talk about nostalgia like its a bad thing.  SW built its name up over 40 years and has a loyal fanbase.  We are at 10 movies now for SW and Solo will the be first bomb.  How many franchises get to ten movies besides Marvel?  

 

We've discussed the reasons ad nauseum as to why Solo failed.  Disney has a lot of work to do to fix the next episode.  But it's not hard to fix.....imo.  They just have to have the balls to do it right.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, That One Guy said:

Reminder again that y’all should go see Upgrade.  It’s really good!

 

And Adrift.  It's also really good.