Geo1500 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said: The MCU has had Spider-man long enough that if it was in production/near production we would have heard about it last week. The slot is reserved for Spiderman 3 but they didn't announce it in the comic con because the MCU is unsure whether Sony wants the slot but still reserved for Spiderman but in my opinion they are not gonna take that slot. They will look for a more less overcrowded opening date Edited July 25, 2019 by Geo1500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, a2k said: say 16 Thu for TLK, down 6% 23.2 (+45%) 31.3 (+35%) 26.6 (-15%) = 81.1 (-57.7%) Looks like the number I was talking about on Monday. And 45% is a great increase for the time of year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: I don't think Sony will take that 2021 july slot again? All the movies who have been on that summer slot this year don't want to ever get another summer slot except the Lion King because competition dosen't mean much for the big giant cat. Toy story 5, Aladdin 2 and Spiderman 3 will all say pass to another summer slot. But imo Sony now knows that Spiderman has tapped into a new audience group due to the teen-romance additions which made the movie grow from it's first movie and from other spider-mans movies. Summer slots are unpleasant opening date because it gets overcrowded and imo Spider-man 3 will be able to do much more then it did this year hence why I think Sony will opt to go with a more favorable opening date in 2022 somewhere in October-november-ish. If you place Spiderman far from home in Frozen 2 opening date it makes more then frozen 2 while Frozen 2 will make less then FFH in this overcrowded summer slot There are times you really just shouldnt say whats on your mind. This whole post is filled with stupidity and inaccuracy. Oh and outside of the Christmas box office, summer is still the most coveted time frame regardless of the film type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, narniadis said: There are times you really just shouldnt say whats on your mind. This whole post is filled with stupidity and inaccuracy. Oh and outside of the Christmas box office, summer is still the most coveted time frame regardless of the film type. coveted my ass. You have to realize that there is severe competition in the summer where many blockbuster open. It's huge credit to FFH holding it's ground so strong in a overcrowded opening date and markets. The competition dosen't hurt much DOM but in the OS markets oh yes competition means everything because they are prone to follow the hype unlike the US where you have more settled fanbases while the OS market is brutal they go with the new circus that comes to town and in that opening date to many circus open week after week Edited July 25, 2019 by Geo1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledmonkey96 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: coveted my ass. You have to realize that there is severe competition in the summer where many blockbuster open. It's huge credit to FFH holding it's ground so strong in a overcrowded opening date and markets. The competition dosen't hurt much DOM but in the OS markets oh yes competition means everything because they are prone to follow the hype unlike the US where you have more settled fanbases while the OS market is brutal they go with the new circus that comes to town and in that opening date to many circus open week after week Outside of Disney this Summer is absolutely DEAD. And for all that Disney is dominating they've only released 4 movies this Summer, That's 1 per month on average May to August (counting Endgame as Summer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfran43 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 1 The Lion King (2019) BV $17,037,057 -44% - 4,725 $3,606 $260,250,600 6 2 2 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony $2,667,594 -39% -51% 4,415 $604 $329,801,533 23 3 3 Toy Story 4 BV $2,003,406 -39% -42% 3,750 $534 $383,825,018 34 4 4 Crawl Par. $757,647 -40% -39% 3,170 $239 $26,750,620 13 5 6 Yesterday Uni. $644,155 -35% -41% 2,662 $242 $59,794,805 27 6 5 Aladdin (2019) BV $624,253 -39% -44% 2,105 $297 $342,547,873 62 7 7 Stuber Fox $488,204 -43% -42% 3,050 $160 $18,037,237 13 8 8 Annabelle Comes Home WB (NL) $386,572 -29% -49% 1,981 $195 $67,870,708 29 9 9 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Uni. $292,385 -33% -62% 1,380 $212 $152,553,300 48 10 11 Avengers: Endgame BV $267,954 -13% -24% 985 $272 $855,364,654 90 11 10 Midsommar A24 $259,475 -23% -58% 1,105 $235 $23,351,370 22 12 - The Farewell A24 $126,298 -15% +199% 35 $3,609 $2,032,824 13 - - Bethany Hamilton: Unstoppable ENTMP $123,368 +700% +208% 138 $894 $601,498 13 - - Rocketman Par. $120,943 -27% -59% 720 $168 $94,390,971 55 - 12 The Art of Self-Defense BST $119,467 -33% +840% 550 $217 $1,666,850 13 - - Men in Black International Sony $95,937 -15% -64% 554 $173 $78,459,362 41 - - Menteur EOne $86,246 -35% -41% 89 $969 $2,204,258 13 - - The Fighting Preacher Purd. $53,803 - - 26 $2,069 $53,803 1 - - The Last Black Man in San Francisco A24 $39,464 -4% -43% 149 $265 $3,941,549 48 - - Pavarotti CBS $36,337 -4% -35% 143 $254 $4,067,780 48 - - Godzilla: King of the Monsters WB $27,202 -20% -55% 218 $125 $109,687,894 55 - - Dark Phoenix Fox $27,152 -15% +20% 185 $147 $65,448,054 48 - - The Other Side of Heaven 2: Fire of Faith AAE $22,924 +17% +21% 45 $509 $1,433,352 27 - - Pokemon Detective Pikachu WB $22,133 -11% -41% 165 $134 $143,710,589 76 - - Shaft (2019) WB (NL) $21,417 -33% -39% 228 $94 $21,110,054 41 - - Child's Play (2019) UAR $21,400 -28% -73% 207 $103 $28,855,332 34 - - Booksmart UAR $12,820 -13% -53% 83 $154 $22,233,198 62 - - Unplanned PFR $9,516 +17% -92% 19 $501 $18,915,023 118 - - Dumbo (2019) BV $4,924 -7% -45% 65 $76 $114,719,060 118 - - Shazam! WB (NL) $4,138 -16% -47% 63 $66 $140,367,284 111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said: Outside of Disney this Summer is absolutely DEAD. And for all that Disney is dominating they've only released 4 movies this Summer, That's 1 per month on average May to August (counting Endgame as Summer) There were to many blockbusters opening this summer and unfortunately some of them fall victim to the competition because there were other options hence why they got pushed out to second or third choice for the regular movie-goer. You had movies with big-budgets aka blockbuster like King of the monsters, Dark P, Men in Black 5, Pika, and Pets2 opening also but they suffered due to the overcrowded summer where people had other options and basically got out-buzz'ed while some of them could have had better runs in other opening dates. If you fill 10-12 blockbuster movies in the span of 8-10 weeks they will cannibalize each other and thats what happened to many of these wanna-be big budget blockbusters this summer. Some of them could truly have done better for themselves in other slots. Frozen is a great example of having won the lottery in the best possible opening dates twice now with little to no competition Edited July 25, 2019 by Geo1500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiazhi Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: There were to many blockbuster opening this summer and unfortunately some of them fall victim to the competition and understanding human decision for watching a movie is simple because there were other options hence why they got pushed out to second or third choice for the regular movie-goer. You had movies with big-budgets aka blockbuster like King of the monsters, Dark P, Men in Black 5, Pika, and Pets2 opening also but they suffered due to the overcrowded summer where people had other options and basically got out-buzz'ed while some of them could have had better runs in other opening dates. If you fill 10-12 blockbuster movies in the span of 8-10 weeks they will cannibalize each other and thats what happened to many of these wanna-be big budget blockbusters this summer. Some of them could truly have done better for themselves in other slots. Frozen is a great example of having won the lottery in the best possible opening dates twice now with little to no competition those movies should blame themselves for having no appeals to GA despite a similar budget to disney movies. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Oh, I can only imagine what must be thought of summers past if the summer of 2019 is over crowded. July had a total of 6 DAMN wide releases, technically its like 7 or 8 straight weeks of just 1 or 2 wide new films totally not the usual. Your squawking about Godzilla has shifted to other excuses instead of to where it lay. The other films that failed this summer didnt fail.because of competition, they failed because they were either piss ass movies or were follow ups to piss ass movies. There is so much more to following box office than what you are wrongly insinuating, yet again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Also, I would love to see how Frozen 2 replicates Frozen 1s Christmas legs since Star Wars and Jumanji are both opening and will be huge - much more competition in the later run than Frozen 1 ever had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, xiazhi said: those movies should blame themselves for having no appeals to GA despite a similar budget to disney movies. Example Godzilla was losing alot of screens early on in it's release due to other blockbusters being released week after week it did only great in China because it kept losing screens early in other OS markets due to competition the same thing happened to MI5 and they also didn't do good before the competition came out because there were other competition released before them who already had break-outs which also limited screens. Despite Spiderman doing well it still got cannibalized and left a good junk of money on the table. The only movies that can benefit from such opening dates are the major movies like Avengers, Star wars or The Lion king because Competition will not be able to harm them and they are untouchable but anything less then that will be harmed Edited July 25, 2019 by Geo1500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 July 26Updated Thursday afternoons << Prev. Week < Last Year View Index Next Year > Next Week >> Rank LW Title Distributor Theater Count Change % Change Est. Screens Change Est. Shows Change Week # > NEW RELEASES 3 - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Sony / Columbia 3,659 - - - - - - 1 28 42 The Fighting Preacher Purdie Distribution 26 - - - - - - 1 30 - Honeyland Neon 2 - - - - - - 1 > EXPANDING 12 31 Booksmart United Artists Releasing 555 +472 +568.7% - - - - 10 15 17 Godzilla: King of the Monsters Warner Bros. 238 +20 +9.2% - - - - 9 22 30 Maiden Sony Classics 113 +29 +34.5% - - - - 5 23 36 Marianne & Leonard: Words of Love Roadside Attractions 83 +28 +50.9% - - - - 4 29 61 David Crosby: Remember My Name Sony Classics 11 +7 +175.0% - - - - 2 > NO CHANGE 1 1 The Lion King (2019) Buena Vista 4,725 - - - - - - 2 > DECLINING 2 2 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony / Columbia 3,851 -564 -12.8% - - - - 4 4 3 Toy Story 4 Buena Vista 3,610 -140 -3.7% - - - - 6 5 4 Crawl Paramount 2,720 -450 -14.2% - - - - 3 6 6 Yesterday Universal 2,542 -120 -4.5% - - - - 5 7 5 Stuber Fox 2,150 -900 -29.5% - - - - 3 8 7 Aladdin (2019) Buena Vista 1,798 -307 -14.6% - - - - 10 9 8 Annabelle Comes Home Warner Bros. (New Line) 1,287 -694 -35.0% - - - - 5 10 9 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Universal 1,000 -380 -27.5% - - - - 8 11 11 Avengers: Endgame Buena Vista 580 -405 -41.1% - - - - 14 13 12 Rocketman Paramount 516 -204 -28.3% - - - - 9 14 14 Men in Black International Sony / Columbia 343 -211 -38.1% - - - - 7 16 22 Pokemon Detective Pikachu Warner Bros. 155 -10 -6.1% - - - - 12 17 16 Shaft (2019) Warner Bros. (New Line) 153 -75 -32.9% - - - - 7 18 21 Dark Phoenix Fox 145 -40 -21.6% - - - - 8 19 19 Wild Rose Neon 144 -51 -26.2% - - - - 6 20 25 Pavarotti CBS Films 135 -8 -5.6% - - - - 8 21 18 Child's Play (2019) United Artists Releasing 125 -82 -39.6% - - - - 6 24 26 Bethany Hamilton: Unstoppable Entertainment Studios 63 -75 -54.3% - - - - 3 25 33 Biggest Little Farm Neon 61 -8 -11.6% - - - - 12 26 34 Dumbo (2019) Buena Vista 45 -20 -30.8% - - - - 18 27 38 The Other Side of Heaven 2: Fire of Faith ArtAffects 33 -12 -26.7% - - - - 5 31 68 Last Year at Marienbad (2019 re-release) Janus Films 2 -1 -33.3% - - - - 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiazhi Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: Example Godzilla was losing alot of screens early on in it's release due to other blockbusters being released week after week it did only great in China because it kept losing screens early in other OS markets due to competition the same thing happened to MI5 and they also didn't do good before the competition came out because there were other competition released before them who already had break-outs which also limited screens. Despite Spiderman doing well it still got cannibalized and left a good junk of money on the table. The only movies that can benefit from such opening dates are the major movies like Avengers, Star wars or The Lion king because Competition will not be able to harm them and they are untouchable but anything less then that will be harmed All the movies in May and June are competing for screens why only TS4, JW3 and aladdin succeeded? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, xiazhi said: All the movies in May and June are competing for screens why only TS4, JW3 and aladdin succeeded? Its him griping since Godzilla didnt gross what he predicted and hoped. Look at the posting pattern during opening weekend / week - it was hilarious. But seriously, this is acting as if all of this is new which its not since screen count issues have always been a thing, particularly in countries with well respected home markets. Its also one of the big reasons that spead releases over several weeks is the norm for a lot of films. Big ones sure, open everywhere but they are spaced exceptions which this year happen to be Disneys. Edited July 25, 2019 by narniadis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, xiazhi said: All the movies in May and June are competing for screens why only TS4, JW3 and aladdin succeeded? They got also cannibalized especially Aladdin and TS4 left good junk of money on the table due to competition and they could have done better then they did currently in less competitive opening hence they had to compete in many international markets 55-60 where as JW3 was mostly DOM based with limited release in OS markets Edited July 25, 2019 by Geo1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 This locks up at least 66 consecutive days over 500k for Aladdin, maybe can manage 68 or 73 but I doubt it. Best of 2010s as far as I can tell (let me know if you see a 50+ that I missed): The King’s Speech 72 Frozen 68 Jumanji 68 BP 66 TA 62 I2 61 TFA 61 IW 59 CM 59 WW 59 TS3 59 TJB 59 Greatest Showman 57 Hidden Figures 54 JW 54 Silver Linings Playbook 53 Endgame 52 gotg 52 IO 52 Zootopia 52 Lincoln 52 Maleficent 52 SLoP 52 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) . Edited March 1, 2022 by That One Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, That One Guy said: reminder that Booksmart is still the best movie this summer and everyone should see it Awesome! I really hope it's showing somewhere here in Calgary. I didn't get a chance to catch it when it released. It was only playing at one theatre in Calgary at the time so I have my doubts this time around but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: They got also cannibalized especially Aladdin and TS4 left good junk of money on the table due to competition and they could have done better then they did currently in less competitive opening hence they had to compete in many international markets 55-60 where as JW3 was mostly DOM based with limited release in OS markets Which again is normal? I fail to see how they left tons of money, especially when exchange rates are meh as far as reporting goes. You seem to have an idea in your mind that is just not accurate on how this works, especially overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Too bad Booksmart isnt going wider, its not close enough for me and I didnt have a chance the last go around. Then again, my local isnt even getting Hollywood so 🤷♂️ joys of more rural living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
