Eric is Quiet Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 You guys know the drill. UK reviews are up, word is getting leaked. We don't want this spreading in the regular forums, so please use this place to talk about stuff the marketing isn't revealing. Have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGAR4LIFE Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Where are the spoilers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yandereprime101189 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, JGAR4LIFE said: Where are the spoilers They haven't happened yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGAR4LIFE Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) From some dude on Reddit : cant really summarize the whole movie but it ends like this Kenneth Braugnah's character is sending objects back in time to cause chaos and tragedy. In the climax of the movie he plans to send a reactor to the site of the Chernobyl disaster and the characters have to go back to when he was born in order to stop this from occurring. He follows them into the time before his birth and it is revealed the Keneth Braughnah essentially creates himself leaving him in a sort of paradox. Edited August 21, 2020 by JGAR4LIFE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yandereprime101189 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 So it's literally Spoiler The Kill Baby Hitler joke from Deadpool 2? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 what's the user's name? I want to see all his answers if he's AMA rather than posting the whole synopsis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 sounds like Spoiler terminator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 17 hours ago, JGAR4LIFE said: Where are the spoilers In my mind. Edit:Nothing accurate is posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcsin20 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Just saw it here in Australia, that is not what happens. This is the most Nolan-y film he’s ever made and definitely requires multiple viewings to fully get. WARNING: VERY DETAILED SPOILERS BELOW: Opening Scene is the Opera. JDW is trying to save a target of an assassination attempt but is caught and then tied up on a railroad. Decides to take his cyanide pill and passes out, but wakes up in hospital to find out that was just a test to see if he could be trusted with the secret of Time Inversion and “Tenet” (from what I gathered, an organisation that has been specifically built to stop the end of the world in this instance). He learns about time inversion (which broadly speaking deals with reversing an objects entropy achieved through a futuristic machine called a turntable) and gets a lead that takes him to an arms dealer in India. The building is extremely well guarded so he hires Pattinson to help him infiltrate it. Once there, they realise it’s actually the arm dealers wife who has the information they need, which is that a Russian Oligarch is the one who has been the source of these inverted bullets that they’ve recently encountered and that he somehow wants to end the world. JDW organises a meeting with the Oligarchs wife (Debicki) and she ends up explaining that she wants to leave her husband but can’t because he has blackmail over her (criminal fraud essentially over a fake painting) and she will never get to see her son again if she leaves him. So JDW decides to steal this painting to help her (but really to get the oligarchs attention, that’s the main reason). They crash a plane into the secure storage facility to get to it, but encounter an inverted “masked man” along with another who’s not inverted (these are both JDW from later on in the movie, you regularly see that you exist as your normal self and your inverted self after going through a turntable). JDW then pretends to be an arms dealer and gets invited to a dinner party where we first properly meet Branagh and after he briefly considers killing JDW, they decide to work together on an arms deal (I believe, honestly a little unsure how this all worked here). We discover that there are these 9 boxes that are each part of an algorithm that when combined, give you the secret to how Time Inversion works. The 9 boxes themselves have been inverted throughout time from when they were created in the far future as a way to hide that secret since it’s considered a weapon that could destroy the world instantaneously (the reason it would is that if someone were to create “a grandfather paradox” the world would most likely just cease to exist. This is quoted a few times along with the idea that inversion is the future’s Manhattan project and it being so dangerous for the world to have this knowledge. The creator in the far future kills herself to protect the secret of inversion). Branagh wants to obtain these 9 pieces so that he can end the world since he’s got terminal cancer and is dying anyways. JDW and Pattinson manage to extract one of these pieces from a moving vehicle but Branagh shows up inverted and has Debecki hostage, which makes JDW pretend to give up the box to save her life. However they are captured straight after anyways. The turning point of the movie happens next, where Branagh (who’s inverted and speaking gibberish to the normal JDW) threatens and then shoots Debecki in the stomach to get JDW to actually reveal where the box is. Pattinson, JDW and a full squad of soldiers (part of Tenet) decide to go through the turntable and chase Branagh, which sets off the movie reversing and the car chase scene happening again but backwards. Branagh finds the box and then stays inverted to go back to his “death” 10 days earlier, at which point the world would end (he’s rigged the locations of the boxes to a heartbeat sensor so that when he dies, the locations are known in the future). Our heroes are also travelling back in time and go to the Storage facility and JDW fights himself and we see that Pattinson knew he was fighting him, but didn’t mention it since that was part of the plan. In the end to stop Branagh, they need to make sure he doesn’t have the 9 pieces at the moment of his death so Debecki goes to that day to try and prevent it from happening, while Pattinson and JDW go to the site of one of the 9 pieces to try and steal it. A complex plan of using inverted and non inverted soldiers occurs (where the non inverted ones “fail”, tell the inverted ones what to expect and then they succeed, basically. But it all happens at the same time). Sets off an insane set piece with two armies fighting this enemy army, half inverted and half not. JDW almost dies but has his life saved by an unknown man who sacrifices his own life. They get the box and Debecki kills Branagh to save the day. In the aftermath, JDW, Pattinson, and Aaron Taylor Johnson (one of the commandos of the tenet army) break the box pieces they have into 3, and decide to split up and head in different directions never to see each other again so that it’s impossible for it to be combined. Pattinson gives his piece to JDW and says he has to head back into the fight and we realise he’s the one who dies to save JDW. Turns out JDW inverts himself and lives the rest of his life going backwards in time and ends up recruiting Pattinson as well as setting up the Tenet organisation so that all of this is possible. For Pattinson it’s the end of a long friendship and his death but for JDW it’s basically the start. Think the Doctor and River Song from Doctor Who. And that’s it. Edited August 22, 2020 by Gcsin20 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Temporal pincer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Gcsin20 said: You are a hero, mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Does the new WB logo appear with Tenet? It's technically already debuted with An American Pickle OS but curious to know if it's any difference i.e animated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Great to see universal love for JDW, RPatts and DeBicki - all people who need to be in more tentpoles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcsin20 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Jonwo said: Does the new WB logo appear with Tenet? It's technically already debuted with An American Pickle OS but curious to know if it's any difference i.e animated It does appear, it’s got a red tint though. The Syncopy logo is tinted all blue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Gcsin20 said: It does appear, it’s got a red tint though. The Syncopy logo is tinted all blue. Which presumably references the blue and red teams in the temporal pincer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudemhirjan Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Gcsin20 said: Just saw it here in Australia, that is not what happens. This is the most Nolan-y film he’s ever made and definitely requires multiple viewings to fully get. WARNING: VERY DETAILED SPOILERS BELOW: Opening Scene is the Opera. JDW is trying to save a target of an assassination attempt but is caught and then tied up on a railroad. Decides to take his cyanide pill and passes out, but wakes up in hospital to find out that was just a test to see if he could be trusted with the secret of Time Inversion and “Tenet” (from what I gathered, an organisation that has been specifically built to stop the end of the world in this instance). He learns about time inversion (which broadly speaking deals with reversing an objects entropy achieved through a futuristic machine called a turntable) and gets a lead that takes him to an arms dealer in India. The building is extremely well guarded so he hires Pattinson to help him infiltrate it. Once there, they realise it’s actually the arm dealers wife who has the information they need, which is that a Russian Oligarch is the one who has been the source of these inverted bullets that they’ve recently encountered and that he somehow wants to end the world. JDW organises a meeting with the Oligarchs wife (Debicki) and she ends up explaining that she wants to leave her husband but can’t because he has blackmail over her (criminal fraud essentially over a fake painting) and she will never get to see her son again if she leaves him. So JDW decides to steal this painting to help her (but really to get the oligarchs attention, that’s the main reason). They crash a plane into the secure storage facility to get to it, but encounter an inverted “masked man” along with another who’s not inverted (these are both JDW from later on in the movie, you regularly see that you exist as your normal self and your inverted self after going through a turntable). JDW then pretends to be an arms dealer and gets invited to a dinner party where we first properly meet Branagh and after he briefly considers killing JDW, they decide to work together on an arms deal (I believe, honestly a little unsure how this all worked here). We discover that there are these 9 boxes that are each part of an algorithm that when combined, give you the secret to how Time Inversion works. The 9 boxes themselves have been inverted throughout time from when they were created in the far future as a way to hide that secret since it’s considered a weapon that could destroy the world instantaneously (the reason it would is that if someone were to create “a grandfather paradox” the world would most likely just cease to exist. This is quoted a few times along with the idea that inversion is the future’s Manhattan project and it being so dangerous for the world to have this knowledge. The creator in the far future kills herself to protect the secret of inversion). Branagh wants to obtain these 9 pieces so that he can end the world since he’s got terminal cancer and is dying anyways. JDW and Pattinson manage to extract one of these pieces from a moving vehicle but Branagh shows up inverted and has Debecki hostage, which makes JDW pretend to give up the box to save her life. However they are captured straight after anyways. The turning point of the movie happens next, where Branagh (who’s inverted and speaking gibberish to the normal JDW) threatens and then shoots Debecki in the stomach to get JDW to actually reveal where the box is. Pattinson, JDW and a full squad of soldiers (part of Tenet) decide to go through the turntable and chase Branagh, which sets off the movie reversing and the car chase scene happening again but backwards. Branagh finds the box and then stays inverted to go back to his “death” 10 days earlier, at which point the world would end (he’s rigged the locations of the boxes to a heartbeat sensor so that when he dies, the locations are known in the future). Our heroes are also travelling back in time and go to the Storage facility and JDW fights himself and we see that Pattinson knew he was fighting him, but didn’t mention it since that was part of the plan. In the end to stop Branagh, they need to make sure he doesn’t have the 9 pieces at the moment of his death so Debecki goes to that day to try and prevent it from happening, while Pattinson and JDW go to the site of one of the 9 pieces to try and steal it. A complex plan of using inverted and non inverted soldiers occurs (where the non inverted ones “fail”, tell the inverted ones what to expect and then they succeed, basically. But it all happens at the same time). Sets off an insane set piece with two armies fighting this enemy army, half inverted and half not. JDW almost dies but has his life saved by an unknown man who sacrifices his own life. They get the box and Debecki kills Branagh to save the day. In the aftermath, JDW, Pattinson, and Aaron Taylor Johnson (one of the commandos of the tenet army) break the box pieces they have into 3, and decide to split up and head in different directions never to see each other again so that it’s impossible for it to be combined. Pattinson gives his piece to JDW and says he has to head back into the fight and we realise he’s the one who dies to save JDW. Turns out JDW inverts himself and lives the rest of his life going backwards in time and ends up recruiting Pattinson as well as setting up the Tenet organisation so that all of this is possible. For Pattinson it’s the end of a long friendship and his death but for JDW it’s basically the start. Think the Doctor and River Song from Doctor Who. And that’s it. Saw it last night too mate and half the time couldn't understand the dialogue. Not sure if it was just my theatre or the sound mixing was just really awful. Will have to rewatch it next week! Thanks for this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 It’s pretty clear now the Christopher Nolan was inverted in the future and is currently moving back through our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I just realised that if you actually watch Tenet backwards there’ll be a few scenes where you can understand the dialogue. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 We gotta infiltrate this Indian billionaire's compound so we can find out there's this guy called Andrei Sator. Now that we know this we have to find his estranged wife. When we have found her we have to win her trust so now we have to infiltrate a warehouse and steal a painting. Now that we have gained her trust we can finally meet Sator. Sator apparently doesn't trust us so in order to gain his trust we have to infiltrate a truck and steal weapons-grade plutonium for him. Fetch Quest: The Movie! It is funny how instead of having to write a simple character based conversation between two human beings where the Protagonist's inner motivation is convincing Kat to trust him - Nolan decides he's not up to such a human task, so instead deflects and turns it into an overly complicated action setpiece that takes a large chunk out of the movie instead. And then he does this twice. Sure the setpieces are enjoyable in places... but they serve shockingly little for the overall narrative of the movie despite taking up so much screentime. Very little reward for so much effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Something that bugged me in the first viewing was the opening scene. How were all these heavily armed police showing up so quickly? It all clicks once you realise who the real mastermind is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...