terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I had thought about to copy in that title too, but where to end? Some are still looking into Mockingjay details too, but that would be a big list, hence the reason I added the direct link For the ones interested into the admissions sorted chart http://www.insidekino.com/DJahr/DAlltime100.htm Via the posters the top 10 should be clear Herr der Ringe = LotR Doctor Schiwago = Doctor ... Zhiwago or so If interested, ask, here are several users who can translate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Seems like the SW ticket price is falling. Was at 11,5€ and is at 11,3€ now If the numbers do not fall this fourth weekend is bigger than the same weekend TTT had (576K) and nearly as high as the fourth ROTK weekend (598K). Not bad at all. Edited January 11, 2016 by Aristis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonstersandRoy Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm impressed by TFA's numbers in Germany, but wow I am more impressed that The Jungle Book is still in the top 3 of all time, did not realise it was up there. Very impressive for a film so old. Does the live action remake have potential to be huge in Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I guess rather not, the live adaption of 101 dalmatians had 2,3mil admissions back in '97 - that's a nice success but not blockbuster status. Cinderella barely jumped the 1,0mil treshold; Maleficent was at 1,5mil. The live adaptions seem to generate some business but not as much as the successful animations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 8 hours ago, MonstersandRoy said: I'm impressed by TFA's numbers in Germany, but wow I am more impressed that The Jungle Book is still in the top 3 of all time, did not realise it was up there. Very impressive for a film so old. Agree to IndustriousAngel's assessment. It's even #1 in admissions, with a far/big head start. Nowadays it's a huge success, if a movie reaches 7m (since 2010 a few local movies and, as the 2nd highest since 2010, Skyfall with 7.8m) or even 9m+ (#1 since 2010, a french movie = The Intouchables) admissions # admissions distr. release title director 1 27.393.531* MGM 13.12.1968 Jungle Book Wolfgang Reitherman 2 18.809.599 FOX 08.01.1998 Titanic James Cameron WA 3D 3 13.000.000 PAR 14.08.1969 Once Upon a Time in the West Sergio Leone 4 12.750.000* MGM 05.10.1966 Doktor Schiwago/Zhivago David Lean 5 12.565.007 WB 22.11.2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Chris Columbus 6 12.267.000** ADR 25.02.1972 Trinity Is STILL My Name! E.B. Clucher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannyreborn Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 TFA: Weekend (admissions): 583.388 (-31%) Weekend (gross): ~$7.3m Total (admissions): 7.630.761 Total (gross): ~$93.9m http://www.insidekino.com/DTop10/16/DTop16JAN7.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Star Wars 7 583.388 744 784 7.630.761 86.567.805 -31 4 2 The Revenant 380.349 402 946 445.978 4.300.327 - 1 3 Ich bin dann mal weg 212.541 745 285 1.158.929 9.174.057 -20 3 4 The Peanuts 138.361 675 205 945.919 7.241.300 -35 3 5 Hilfe, ich hab meine Lehrerin geschrumpft 104.521 521 201 801.177 5.000.868 -17 4 6 Unfriend 101.568 302 336 102.461 888.902 - 1 7 Heidi 96.669 720 134 1.009.793 6.525.033 -28 5 8 Spectre 73.182 449 163 6.952.609 66.448.800 -37 10 9 The Danish Girl 68.540 166 413 72.533 614.259 - 1 10 Mockingjay 2 65.494 429 153 3.995.215 41.333.248 -39 8 11 Fireman Sam: Ultimate Heroes 63.747 185 345 63.747 395.929 - 1 12 Legend 59.392 199 298 88.767 690.147 - 1 13 Joy 51.065 350 146 210.512 1.774.326 -47 2 14 Bruder vor Luder 46.130 275 168 289.013 2.053.144 -16 3 15 Solace 34.582 233 148 139.320 1.088.622 -42 2 16 The Good Dinosaur 27.018 372 73 695.615 4.985.163 -31 7 17 Le tout nouveau testament 24.490 135 181 258.462 1.914.920 -17 6 18 Kocan Kadar Konus - Dirilis 24.200 46 526 24.200 219.578 - 1 19 Carol 16.779 102 165 164.017 1.257.163 -27 4 20 Delibal 13.656 51 268 55.596 498.877 -47 2 A good hold from SW7 and a fantastic start for Revenant - would have cracked the 1.000 PTA with a few shows more; as it is we can expect an expansion and accordingly a very good 2nd weekend. 2 million total seem like a good goal atm; maybe even more with Oscar buzz. "The Danish Girl" is quite a success for its limited release, too. With "Heidi" and "Ich bin dann mal weg" two domestic releases have crossed the million; some other releases are close to tresholds: MJ2, Spectre and Peanuts. Next weekend: "Creed" will be the most interesting opener from the Hollywood POV; the reviews are ok but Stallone is no big draw anymore … let's wait. "The 5th Wave" - will probably vanish soon; the trailer got laughed at and there's no buzz at all. "The Big Short" has a lot of starpower but I don't think the theme will interest the german audience. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 IndustriousAngel, do you think TR can top TFA next weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 yes, I think there's a maybe 25% chance - depending on how much it expands, of course - TFA will drop to, say, 375k - so if Revenant can stay flat thanks to the expansion and more shows, we'll have a new nr.1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 How high will TFA go in USD? $120-130m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jiffy said: How high will TFA go in USD? $120-130m? more like 110-115m in USD (depends on exchange rate of course) Edited January 12, 2016 by IndustriousAngel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: more like 110-115m in USD (depends on exchange rate of course) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Jungle Book #3? Wtf. Edited January 12, 2016 by quigquag33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 59 minutes ago, quigquag33 said: Jungle Book #3? Wtf. moneywise ... by admissions Jungle Book is so far ahead it's plain ridiculous. It's got far more than double the admissions of Avatar edit: I'd really love for someone to dig a bit how realistic this number for Jungle Book is ... what I mean, Disney cartoons were always very popular, but Reithermans other big hit, Aristocats, clocked in at "only" 11,3mil admissions (and that had some re-releases too afaik); "The Lion King" was below 12mil too and no other Disney cartoon made more than 10mil. On insidekino Jungle Book's number is marked as a comparatively educated estimate; maybe someone has the time to check some contemporary sources (like newspaper archives ...?) Edited January 12, 2016 by IndustriousAngel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Real accounting didn't happen that far back, I think. That only started in the mid 80s. I think it got mentioned somewhere on insidekino that those kind of numbers were rather common back in the days. "Die Trapp Familie" (which is what The Sound of Music is based on) had about 27 million admissions as well. "Grün ist die Heide" had 19, "Schwarzwaldmädel" 16 million. All of these are from the 50s. If you go back further, you even get 30-40 million admissions, if I remember it correctly. You can actually find some of the re-relese data if you look through the yearly charts. 1971 for example gives you the numbers for Aristocats, split in four releases: 5.25 million (rough estimate) in 1971, 4.44 in 1980, 0.83 in 1988 and 0.78 in 1994, for a total of about 11.3 million. For Jungle Book you get the following: 1968: 7.6 million (estimate) 1979: 9.1 million 1987: 5.47 million 1993: 4.17 million 2000: 1.04 million total: 27.39 million Other movies of that period, like Once Upon a Time in the West (13 million) or Trinity Is STILL My Name! (11.3 + ~1 = 12.3 million) either had none or only a small re-release, which makes Jungle Book's number not look that outrageous anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 that's true ... I think most of Jungle Book's success has to do with the songs, they were immensely popular (some of theme still meme around) which might explain the fantastic numbers on re-releases. I was just taken aback by how far it is ahead of Aristocats (which I personally find even nicer!) and other Disney stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 hours ago, George Parr said: Real accounting didn't happen that far back, I think. That only started in the mid 80s. I think it got mentioned somewhere on insidekino that those kind of numbers were rather common back in the days. "Die Trapp Familie" (which is what The Sound of Music is based on) had about 27 million admissions as well. "Grün ist die Heide" had 19, "Schwarzwaldmädel" 16 million. All of these are from the 50s. If you go back further, you even get 30-40 million admissions, if I remember it correctly. You can actually find some of the re-relese data if you look through the yearly charts. 1971 for example gives you the numbers for Aristocats, split in four releases: 5.25 million (rough estimate) in 1971, 4.44 in 1980, 0.83 in 1988 and 0.78 in 1994, for a total of about 11.3 million. For Jungle Book you get the following: 1968: 7.6 million (estimate) 1979: 9.1 million 1987: 5.47 million 1993: 4.17 million 2000: 1.04 million total: 27.39 million Other movies of that period, like Once Upon a Time in the West (13 million) or Trinity Is STILL My Name! (11.3 + ~1 = 12.3 million) either had none or only a small re-release, which makes Jungle Book's number not look that outrageous anymore. Should be the biggest re-release by far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: On insidekino Jungle Book's number is marked as a comparatively educated estimate; maybe someone has the time to check some contemporary sources (like newspaper archives ...?) What's about a ... Zeitzeuge (term?)? As in for it's 1st run. I can tell you this: I never ever heard that much buzz about a movie here since then. Not even 1/2 of it. EVERYBODY I knew then saw it at least once, the most repeatedly. Nearly everybody drove me nuts with singing the songs (btw, one of the rare cases I liked part of the German version better than the original) for MONTHS. I belief every ticket for that movie that InsideKino lists. edit: I took my nephews into one of the re-releases,... was in a way a mistake, they sang them too Edited January 12, 2016 by terrestrial 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 well, I'm a bit younger, born after the 1st run; the time I saw it must have been the '79 re-release when I was 11. I liked it but not as much as Aristocats or 101 Dalmatians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Notably this week, China has bumped Australia out of the Top 5 offshore markets for TFA. The Middle Kingdom, with $65.7M, currently sits at No. 5. The UK is still tops with $162.5M, followed by Germany ($95.5M), France ($77.1M) and Japan ($69.4M). (Local PROC reporting by Ent Group has TFA at about $71.5M with Wednesday grosses included, which would lift it past Japan, but those are unconfirmed numbers.)... http://deadline.com/2016/01/the-force-awakens-tuesday-results-passes-avengers-age-of-ultron-china-international-box-office-1201682015/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...