George Parr Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 On 12.1.2016 at 10:09 PM, Aristis said: Should be the biggest re-release by far Yes, that number is truly unreal. The 1979 re-release beats every single first-run between 1973 and 1989. The Rescuers does top it with 9.8 million admissions, but that includes re-releases. It was only when Pretty Woman made it past 10 million in 1990 that this streak ended. If I'm not mistaken, Jungle Book holds the biggest, second biggest and fourth biggest re-release, not counting any movies that came prior to 1966, whose data isn't available. It should go something like this: Jungle Book 1979 9.1 million Jungle Book 1987 5.43 million Aristocats 1980 4.44 million Jungle Book 1993 4.17 million Robin Hood 1982 2.2 million Star Wars SE 1997 2.19 million The Rescuers 1984 1.54 million Apart from Star Wars, the whole lists pretty amounts to "movies that Wolfgang Reitherman has directed" Actually, there is one further exception, the French movie La Grande Vadrouille. It was first released in 1967 as "Drei Bruchpiloten in Paris", with about 500k admissions, and then again as "Die große Sause" in 1974, this time reaching another 3.3 million. This should put it 5th on the list of biggest re-releases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 For me the three Reitherman movies Aristocats, Jungle Book and Rescuers (Robin Hood, not so much) always defined what I'd call the second Golden Age of Disney cartoons - maybe with 101 Dalmatians thrown in (where Reitherman was already co-directing). There was a quality and levity there, in animation as well as storytelling, that few other family films ever reached. Not even The Lion King imho; even if the music was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Looking at the title over the last three weeks here, one would get the impression that SW7 has crumbled. Every movie drops. The fact is that SW7 will easily get over a multiplier of 4 even with a huge opening and is on the verge of crossing $100M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 still a bit early to tell but looking at select theaters Revenant seems to take the weekend crown; Creed is doing ok for a semi-wide release; 5th Wave is doing bad for a wide one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, jb007 said: Looking at the title over the last three weeks here, one would get the impression that SW7 has crumbled. Every movie drops. The fact is that SW7 will easily get over a multiplier of 4 even with a huge opening and is on the verge of crossing $100M. you have to look at the opening date ... a 4x multiplier from pre-xmas releases is nearly a given. Even Hobbit3 got close to 5x. LotR films got >6 multipliers. Still, SW7 wins the 2015 crown, so not bad at all - just not as good as many were hoping for. Edited January 14, 2016 by IndustriousAngel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 5 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: you have to look at the opening date ... a 4x multiplier from pre-xmas releases is nearly a given. Even Hobbit3 got close to 5x. LotR films got >6 multipliers. Still, SW7 wins the 2015 crown, so not bad at all - just not as good as many were hoping for. Expectations are different. When operating at this level, one cannot be disappointed. If TFA does not reach $1 Bil in the US or $200M in the UK, it would be ridiculous to be disappointed. Personally, I'm thrilled with TFA's performance here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 And here come the Thursday estimates via insidekino.de (forum): Holdovers: The Revenant: 49k admissions (could win this weekend, 150 theaters added, actuals last week were 55k) Star Wars: 25k Ich bin dann mal weg: 11k The Danish Girl: 6k (very good hold) Legend: 4k Unfriend: 3k New releases: Creed: 18k The Big Short: 8.5k Die 5. Welle: 7.5k (as a wide release!) Gut Zu Vögeln: 5k Die Dunkle Seite des Mondes: 3k When I read these numbers I was very disappointed but members say that this is a good opening at least for Creed and The Big Short. So let's see. And I have no idea what is possible with the help of WOM and the Oscar nominations. But I have not much hope for the rest of the new releases. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 For whatever reason, 5th Wave looks to be very backloaded, saturday looks pretty strong already, especially the afternoon sessions. Seems like heavy marketing on Pro 7 had an effect on younger teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 2 hours ago, el sid said: And here come the Thursday estimates via insidekino.de (forum): Holdovers: The Revenant: 49k admissions (could win this weekend, 150 theaters added, actuals last week were 55k) Star Wars: 25k Ich bin dann mal weg: 11k The Danish Girl: 6k (very good hold) Legend: 4k Unfriend: 3k New releases: Creed: 18k The Big Short: 8.5k Die 5. Welle: 7.5k (as a wide release!) Gut Zu Vögeln: 5k Die Dunkle Seite des Mondes: 3k When I read these numbers I was very disappointed but members say that this is a good opening at least for Creed and The Big Short. So let's see. And I have no idea what is possible with the help of WOM and the Oscar nominations. But I have not much hope for the rest of the new releases. Well, with those numbers, Revenant will win the weekend by a margin - cool (also, better expansion than I hoped, plus it's got more shows on the screens it already had - last week Revenant had exactly 1 show per day in my theater). I never expected much from Big Short (not a theme for Germany) but Creed is worse than I expected, Stallone and Rocky are household names, should do better. Backloaded or not, 5th wave is a complete disaster (it's the widest of the openings, the PTA will be embarassing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picores Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Could Revenant top Wolf of Wall Street here? That's around $30m if I'm not mistaken. This weekend drop (or increase) look encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 first trend is online at insidekino: #1: Revenant - 375k admissions (-2% - hmm, had hoped for an increase) #2: SW7 - 350k (-40%; crosses 8mil!) #3: Creed - 175k (not bad but again I was hoping for a bit more) #4: ibdmw - 125k (-40%) seems to become a rather soft weekend overall 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 7 hours ago, picores said: Could Revenant top Wolf of Wall Street here? That's around $30m if I'm not mistaken. This weekend drop (or increase) look encouraging. will be hard ... atm I see 2mil total as a nice goal for Revenant, WoWS total was 2,4mil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 For comparison: ROTK had 364k admissions the same weekend. It made over a million admissions after that. SW will be over 8M on sunday Won't be easy to reach 9M... Needs about 8,85M admissions to come to €100M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think 9mil is possible for SW7 ... there's a crowd of diehard fans who will watch it again and again so drops should be softer from now on. And there are some holidays on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 15/1/2016 at 9:01 AM, IndustriousAngel said: first trend is online at insidekino: #1: Revenant - 375k admissions (-2% - hmm, had hoped for an increase) #2: SW7 - 350k (-40%; crosses 8mil!) #3: Creed - 175k (not bad but again I was hoping for a bit more) #4: ibdmw - 125k (-40%) seems to become a rather soft weekend overall Second Trend: #1: Revenant - 425k admissions #2: SW7 - 325k #3: Creed - 175k #4: ibdmw - 115k The 5th Wave-115k The Big Short-105k 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 30 minutes ago, efialtes76 said: Second Trend: #1: Revenant - 425k admissions #2: SW7 - 325k #3: Creed - 175k #4: ibdmw - 115k The 5th Wave-115k The Big Short-105k yeah that's the "hold" I want to see from Revenant !! go go go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Those numbers don't seem to be any good for The Big Short or The 5th Wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 $100M for SW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingjay Raphael Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What was the OW of Divergent and MR1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Mockingjay Raphael said: What was the OW of Divergent and MR1? MR 1 = Maze Runner? start week 245.756 adm. OW till sunday ~ 180k Divergent: start week 263.029 adm. OW till sunday ~165k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...