Aristis Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Thursday Numbers: #1 Frozen 2 43k (-39%) €365k / $300k #2 Geheimnis 20k (-33%) €175k / $193k #3 Last Christmas 10,2k (-6%) €85k / $94k #4 Hustlers 7,6k (-32%) €65k / $72k #5 Joker 4,5k (-33%) €41k / $45k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Aristis said: Thursday Numbers: #1 Frozen 2 43k (-39%) €365k / $300k #2 Geheimnis 20k (-33%) €175k / $193k #3 Last Christmas 10,2k (-6%) €85k / $94k #4 Hustlers 7,6k (-32%) €65k / $72k #5 Joker 4,5k (-33%) €41k / $45k Bad sign for F2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, PKMLover said: Bad sign for F2? The drop is neither awful nor is it great. It's ok. I would have hoped for a better drop by now but the biggest 3rd WE of the year really wouldn't be bad. It's still on course for 6M+ I'd say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Aristis said: The drop is neither awful nor is it great. It's ok. I would have hoped for a better drop by now but the biggest 3rd WE of the year really wouldn't be bad. It's still on course for 6M+ I'd say. 6M+ means $55M+ ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, PKMLover said: 6M+ means $55M+ ?? Roughly yeah, depending on how the ATP changes, 6M should be roughly $54-55M ~600k 3rd weekend would be okay (it's a great weekend, but I had hoped for a better drop). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2nd trend by insidekino.de: Frozen II: 650k (-31%) Total > 3600k Geheimnis: 175k (-28.6%) Total ~3960k Last Christmas: 80k (+1.7%) Total ~560k Hustlers: 60k (-15.5%) Joker: 35k (-34%) Total ~3960k Le Mans 66: 25k (-34.6%) Mucize 2: 25k 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 while of course everybody was hoping for a better drop, it's more important how well F2 will play over the holidays. other topic: yesterday me and my friend saw the Lord of the Rings triple-feature at our cinema, about 400 enthusiastic people there despite it being the extended editions; takes some stamina to spend 13 hours there those events are becoming more important with streaming taking away more and more of the traditional business. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: while of course everybody was hoping for a better drop, it's more important how well F2 will play over the holidays. other topic: yesterday me and my friend saw the Lord of the Rings triple-feature at our cinema, about 400 enthusiastic people there despite it being the extended editions; takes some stamina to spend 13 hours there those events are becoming more important with streaming taking away more and more of the traditional business. Insidekino now predicts: Frozen II: 700k (-25.6%) total ~ 3670k Geheimnis: 195k Last Christmas: 85k (+8%) Hustlers: 62.5k Joker: 40k le Mans 66: 30k Zombieland: 25k best 3rd weekend by quite a margin for Frozen II. (Would be 4th best 2nd weekend this year behind it’s own 2nd weekend, Endgame’s and 10k behind Joker’s or 6th best opening weekend begin Endgame, itself, Geheimnis, TLK and Joker) Edited December 8, 2019 by Taruseth 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Monday numbers: #1 Frozen2 695k (-26%) 3,69M - biggest 3rd WE of the year #2 Geheimnis 200k (-18%) 3,985M - biggest 6th WE of the year #3 Last Christmas 85k (+8%) 565k #4 Hustlers 60k (-15%/-19%) 160k #5 Joker 40k (-25%) 3,965M 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Frozen 2 708.427 742 955 3.703.795 31.122.554 -25 3 2 Das perfekte Geheimnis 201.882 773 261 3.977.355 35.332.755 -17 6 3 Last Christmas 86.913 565 154 565.115 4.689.013 +10 4 4 Hustlers 61.671 389 159 158.581 1.377.465 -13 2 5 Joker 40.302 458 88 3.964.680 36.706.241 -24 9 6 Ford vs Ferrari 30.893 376 82 315.747 3.027.795 -19 4 7 Zombieland 2 26.080 381 68 433.653 3.668.432 -18 5 8 Mucize 2 23.305 94 248 23.305 213.739 - 1 9 The Addams Family 20.189 452 45 528.223 3.827.050 -2 7 10 A Rainy Day in New York 16.417 99 166 20.529 168.221 - 1 11 Hors Normes 15.572 109 143 22.994 173.629 - 1 12 Doctor Sleep 15.406 361 43 103.747 966.676 -32 3 13 La belle époque 12.501 115 109 39.989 336.406 -24 2 14 Shaun the Sheep 2 10.186 364 28 865.694 5.834.748 +8 11 15 Maleficent 2 10.120 269 38 1.046.708 10.067.953 -10 8 16 La Befana Vien Di Notte 8.746 311 28 45.334 277.657 +53 5 17 Parasite 8.320 171 49 349.306 3.046.440 -30 8 18 Recep Ivedik 6 8.160 93 88 363.577 3.073.666 -53 5 19 The Lighthouse 7.701 79 97 29.103 232.061 -31 2 20 Angry Birds 2 7.257 208 35 777.164 5.432.285 -2 12 I'm unsure why distributors didn't slot any wide releases for last weekend, seems like an oversight when you look at a chart with the best opener on #8. Ok drops all around, Frozen2 continues its great run and Last Christmas surprised with an increase. Next weekend: Jumanji 2 will be the biggest opener but can it beat F2's 4th weekend? I don't think so but it should have a leggy run over the holidays so OW will not be the deciding factor. Other noteworthy openers: Motherless Brooklyn, Black Christmas and domestic kiddie sequel Der kleine Rabe Socke 3. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Frozen 2 708.427 742 955 3.703.795 31.122.554 -25 3 2 Das perfekte Geheimnis 201.882 773 261 3.977.355 35.332.755 -17 6 3 Last Christmas 86.913 565 154 565.115 4.689.013 +10 4 4 Hustlers 61.671 389 159 158.581 1.377.465 -13 2 5 Joker 40.302 458 88 3.964.680 36.706.241 -24 9 6 Ford vs Ferrari 30.893 376 82 315.747 3.027.795 -19 4 7 Zombieland 2 26.080 381 68 433.653 3.668.432 -18 5 8 Mucize 2 23.305 94 248 23.305 213.739 - 1 9 The Addams Family 20.189 452 45 528.223 3.827.050 -2 7 10 A Rainy Day in New York 16.417 99 166 20.529 168.221 - 1 11 Hors Normes 15.572 109 143 22.994 173.629 - 1 12 Doctor Sleep 15.406 361 43 103.747 966.676 -32 3 13 La belle époque 12.501 115 109 39.989 336.406 -24 2 14 Shaun the Sheep 2 10.186 364 28 865.694 5.834.748 +8 11 15 Maleficent 2 10.120 269 38 1.046.708 10.067.953 -10 8 16 La Befana Vien Di Notte 8.746 311 28 45.334 277.657 +53 5 17 Parasite 8.320 171 49 349.306 3.046.440 -30 8 18 Recep Ivedik 6 8.160 93 88 363.577 3.073.666 -53 5 19 The Lighthouse 7.701 79 97 29.103 232.061 -31 2 20 Angry Birds 2 7.257 208 35 777.164 5.432.285 -2 12 I'm unsure why distributors didn't slot any wide releases for last weekend, seems like an oversight when you look at a chart with the best opener on #8. Ok drops all around, Frozen2 continues its great run and Last Christmas surprised with an increase. Next weekend: Jumanji 2 will be the biggest opener but can it beat F2's 4th weekend? I don't think so but it should have a leggy run over the holidays so OW will not be the deciding factor. Other noteworthy openers: Motherless Brooklyn, Black Christmas and domestic kiddie sequel Der kleine Rabe Socke 3. Good to see Frozen II's 3rd weekend actually being slightly above 700k (had hoped for it coming in slightly above based on a quick look through on Sunday). For next weekend I think Frozen II should do around 450k (hoping for 500+k) and Jumanji 2 probably around 350-400k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just realised how close Tangled to Frozen 1 in Germany. 3.9m admission for Tangled vs 4.8m for Frozen. Was it something to do with the fact that Rapazuel was based on German tale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 So again: WE Frozen1 Frozen2 1st 572 654 1.430 1.635 2nd 577 1% 1.355 941 -34% 2.822 3rd 476 -18% 1.952 708 -25% 3.704 4th 433 -9% 2.499 5th 540 25% 3.242 6th 402 -26% 3.838 7th 158 -61% 4.091 8th 107 -32% 4.217 9th 81 -24% 4.311 10th 89 10% 4.412 4.767M 6.000M A more detailed one in Spoiler (I hope it works): Spoiler Frozen1 Frozen2 WE Weekend Mid-week Week Weekend Mid-week Week 1st 572 654 124 696 1.430 1.635 246 1676 2nd 577 1% 1.355 121 698 0% 941 -34% 2.822 174 1115 -33% 3rd 476 -18% 1.952 114 590 -15% 708 -25% 3.704 4th 433 -9% 2.499 203 636 8% 5th 540 25% 3.242 194 734 15% 6th 402 -26% 3.838 95 497 -32% 7th 158 -61% 4.091 19 177 -64% 8th 107 -32% 4.217 13 120 -32% 9th 81 -24% 4.311 12 93 -23% 10th 89 10% 4.412 00000 4.767M 00000 00000 6.000M 00000 WE Minions Frozen2 1st 935 935 1.430 1.635 2nd 1.040 11% 2.394 941 -34% 2.822 3rd 760 -27% 3.598 708 -25% 3.704 4th 537 -29% 4.419 5th 366 -32% 5.147 6th 195 -47% 5.521 7th 242 24% 5.893 8th 111 -54% 6.160 9th 81 -27% 6.323 10th 125 54% 6.497 6.946M 6.000M 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 With that huge numbers of 708K admissions for 3rd week end in Germany and holidays and Christmas coming next week, could Frozen 2 reach 7 millions admissions and $60M ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 7mil seem like a stretch but as mentioned, it's the holiday run that will be the deciding factor. We should get a clearer picture already this wekend, with Jumanji2 opening wide for a similar demo - if F2 manages to stand its ground now than we should expect an excellent holiday run, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1st trend by insidekino.de: Frozen II: 450k (4.29M) (-36%)* Jumanji II: 360k I. P. (J I: 220k i. P.)** Geheimnis: 140k (4.175M) LC: 75k (675k) Kleine Rabe Socke: 55k joker might get to 4M on Sunday. * best 4th weekend this year, but I hope it can get a higher weekend, hopefully slightly above 500k but to be honest I doubt it. **not comparable 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Taruseth said: Frozen II: 450k (4.29M) (-36%)* 1 hour ago, Taruseth said: * best 4th weekend this year, but I hope it can get a higher weekend, hopefully slightly above 500k but to be honest I doubt it. I think he's probably on the low end of WE projection. While the IM to reach 450k would be the 2nd biggest yet it would still be far below LW: Thursday IM WE WE1 110 x13,00 1.430 WE2 70 -36,36% x13,44 941 -34,20% WE3 43 -38,57% x16,47 708 -24,76% WE4 32,5 -24,42% x13,85 450 -36,44% 500k would need x15,4 which (after LW) seems reachable, though I don't know if this x16+ was just an outlier and this WE it normalises. Maybe because of the competition of Jumanji2 it won't come as high LW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 12:56 PM, Aristis said: I think he's probably on the low end of WE projection. While the IM to reach 450k would be the 2nd biggest yet it would still be far below LW: Thursday IM WE WE1 110 x13,00 1.430 WE2 70 -36,36% x13,44 941 -34,20% WE3 43 -38,57% x16,47 708 -24,76% WE4 32,5 -24,42% x13,85 450 -36,44% 500k would need x15,4 which (after LW) seems reachable, though I don't know if this x16+ was just an outlier and this WE it normalises. Maybe because of the competition of Jumanji2 it won't come as high LW? Last weekend was Nikolaus on Friday, and gift cards are a pretty common present, so SAT/SUN might have been boosted for that reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3rd trend by insidekino.de Frozen II: 475k (-33%) Jumanji 2: 385k Geheimnis: 145k (-28%) Last Christmas: 72.5k (-17%) Rabe Socke: 47.5k Hustlers: 40k (-35%) Black Christmas: 30k Joker: 25k (-38%) 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 So is 6M admissions still in play for Frozen 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...