IndustriousAngel Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 In Austria, NWH had about 108k (and that's only Fri-Sun), that's fantastic and even better than in Germany. I guess there was a triple reason for this massive OW: - first movie-weekend after lockdown - no competition - both following weekends are a bit awkward movie-wise, bad alignment of holidays this year so let's see how this plays out but while those following weekends will be a lot softer, I can't see a complete drop from the map - this should be a fine run all through January (if we're not into our next lockdown by then ...) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 Germany's Top12 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Spider-Man 3 814.942 589 1.384 967.751 10.118.541 - 1 2 House of Gucci 93.006 624 149 488.304 4.926.690 -28 3 3 Encanto 51.860 446 116 306.178 2.358.024 -14 4 4 Clifford the Big Red Dog 43.950 480 92 141.347 1.006.702 -2 3 5 Lauras Stern 23.059 564 41 59.043 416.110 -18 2 6 A Boy Called Chrismas 19.496 519 38 139.860 971.099 +5 5 7 West Side Story 17.211 388 44 51.131 492.825 -26 2 8 No Time To Die 17.206 363 47 5.934.312 64.406.533 -37 12 9 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 13.422 417 32 1.437.791 9.955.960 -20 10 10 Contra 12.503 397 31 622.768 5.497.299 -27 8 11 Ghostbusters: Afterlife 10.630 370 29 273.426 2.421.237 -56 5 12 Venom 2 6.606 165 40 1.116.681 10.782.900 -54 9 Excellent opening for Spidey's No Way Home and good holds all around - perfect weekend! Next weekend: The Matrix Resurrections will open on a holiday-depressed weekend; a difficult task! Presales are looking good (though not on the scale of Spider-Man) and something in the 400-500k OW range might be possible. Family movies should, again, profit from christmas and maybe even increase. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1330k Week 1. 150k 2nd Thu 👀 4M+ is a really solid possibility. May be even 4.5M. Endgame on Xmas would have made 7M+ easily 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 weekend estimates from insidekino.de have Spidey at 525k for the weekend, MAtrix 190k incl previews - poor number, going by my cinema I had hoped for at least double that number. Family releases worse than I expected ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IndustriousAngel said: weekend estimates from insidekino.de have Spidey at 525k for the weekend, MAtrix 190k incl previews - poor number, going by my cinema I had hoped for at least double that number. Family releases worse than I expected ... Last week FSS ~800k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Danhjpn said: Last week FSS ~800k? German weekend numbers include the Thursdays as well. From what I can gather, Wednesday was ~150k, Thursday 125k, and the entire weekend (TFSS) ~815k. So FSS would be about 690k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: Endgame on Xmas would have made 7M+ easily I wouldn't be so sure about that. Marvel is a growing franchise in Germany, but it still has a somewhat limited audience at this point. Move Endgame from April/May to christmas, and all you might get is the opening being lower, stretching the same audience over a longer period. Endgame already reached people Marvel usually didn't get thanks to breaking records everywhere. I don't think that there were that many people left who had any interest in it. It's not like Spiderman is currently doing something it has never done before. The first Tobey Maguire Spiderman topped 5m admissions back in 2002, the two sequels came in at 3.2m each. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, George Parr said: I wouldn't be so sure about that. Marvel is a growing franchise in Germany, but it still has a somewhat limited audience at this point. Move Endgame from April/May to christmas, and all you might get is the opening being lower, stretching the same audience over a longer period. Endgame already reached people Marvel usually didn't get thanks to breaking records everywhere. I don't think that there were that many people left who had any interest in it. It's not like Spiderman is currently doing something it has never done before. The first Tobey Maguire Spiderman topped 5m admissions back in 2002, the two sequels came in at 3.2m each. Agree on all accounts. Just that without XMAS I don't think NWH would have done 3M even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Agree on all accounts. Just that without XMAS I don't think NWH would have done 3M even. But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, LPLC said: But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ? the only thing stopping Spidey would be a new lockdown because of the Omicron strain, otherwise I can't see it missing 3mil, with two weeks of holidays coming and good WOM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: the only thing stopping Spidey would be a new lockdown because of the Omicron strain, otherwise I can't see it missing 3mil, with two weeks of holidays coming and good WOM. What do you think ? 3,5M-4M ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 11 hours ago, LPLC said: But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ? Easy peasy. 3rd weekend possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2. Trend: Spider-Man - No Way Home (375T), Matrix Resurrections (145T), House of Gucci (35T), Encanto (30T), Clifford, der große rote Hund (22,5T). From 525k to 375k for NWH. What happened ? I hope 3M are still on the table with a big drop like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, LPLC said: 2. Trend: Spider-Man - No Way Home (375T), Matrix Resurrections (145T), House of Gucci (35T), Encanto (30T), Clifford, der große rote Hund (22,5T). From 525k to 375k for NWH. What happened ? I hope 3M are still on the table with a big drop like this. (many theaters are closed today or have limited showtimes and Christmas day is also very slow) thats what mark said 2 days ago so maybe it was overestimated,lets see how the final trend is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 13 hours ago, john2000 said: (many theaters are closed today or have limited showtimes and Christmas day is also very slow) thats what mark said 2 days ago so maybe it was overestimated,lets see how the final trend is. it went down again ... 360k for NWH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, LPLC said: it went down again ... 360k for NWH I see oh well,its fine i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 NWH had around 360k 2nd WE (-56% from the 4-day WE) and reached 1,69M admissions. MarkG predicts it'll reach 2M on Tuesday. Also he explained why the first Trend was much higher: the last time we had this holiday pattern was 2010 and back then Sunday was the biggest day and Thursday and Saturday were about equal, so he assumed it would be like that again. But this time Thursday was the strongest day and Sat/Sun much weaker, which couldn't really be predicted. Matrix 103 (4-day) / 142,5k (5-day) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Aristis said: NWH had around 360k 2nd WE (-56% from the 4-day WE) and reached 1,69M admissions. MarkG predicts it'll reach 2M on Tuesday. Also he explained why the first Trend was much higher: the last time we had this holiday pattern was 2010 and back then Sunday was the biggest day and Thursday and Saturday were about equal, so he assumed it would be like that again. But this time Thursday was the strongest day and Sat/Sun much weaker, which couldn't really be predicted. Matrix 103 (4-day) / 142,5k (5-day) Ok I hope 3M are still possible despite this big drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, LPLC said: Ok I hope 3M are still possible despite this big drop Atm I don't see reaching 3M at danger. If it reaches 2M on Tuesday than it should be around 2,5M+ after next WE. Though I hope cinemas won't be closed early next year - that might be the only thing that could prevent NWH from reaching 3M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aristis said: Atm I don't see reaching 3M at danger. If it reaches 2M on Tuesday than it should be around 2,5M+ after next WE. Though I hope cinemas won't be closed early next year - that might be the only thing that could prevent NWH from reaching 3M. Could you see an end at 4M ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...