Inside Out 2 | June 14, 2024 | Biggest animated movie of all time! We aren’t Pixover but Pixulling Back!

[Eric the Marxist]

 

[Speedorito]

8 minutes ago, Eric Deetz said:

 

Best Animated Feature is a lock

[Migs20242]

1 hour ago, Eric Deetz said:

 

Queen Bey.

[Box Office Hit]

 

[Mojoguy]

2 hours ago, Box Office Hit said:

 

The day IO2's boxoffice run comes to an end...

[crazymoviekid]

Same release date structure as Elemental.  Not surprising.  

[WebSurfer]

Heh, do I even need to bring up the employee working conditions news that dropped today?

[Krissykins]

On 9/11/2024 at 1:23 AM, Speedorito said:

Best Animated Feature is a lock

 

4 minutes ago, WebSurfer said:

Heh, do I even need to bring up the employee working conditions news that dropped today?

The story is awful. 
 

Hopefully this completely derails any chances and it’s no longer a lock. 

[Krissykins]

 

Big yikes. 

[Speedorito]

11 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

 

The story is awful. 
 

Hopefully this completely derails any chances and it’s no longer a lock. 

Not to downplay this, but…do Academy voters care about this kinda stuff? In mid-September, when voting is in January and February? When they barely care about animation in general?

[ZeroHour]

A lot of it is very reminiscent of the stories that came out about the production of Across the Spiderverse last year in terms of crunch and leadership changing directions frequently up until the last minute. It's also eerily similar to most stories about the horrible working conditions at a lot of AAA game companies and the behind the scenes stories at what happens at the VFX companies that work on MCU (and a lot of big budget) films and shows. It speaks to a larger industry wide rot.

[AniNate]

So I was wrong, they did get enough people.

 

Sadly too easy for Disney execs to confuse correlation with causation when it came to Strange World / Lightyear and pulling back on the LGBT stuff, especially given there was an NYTimes piece this week indicating discomfort with Strange World's lead as well. All one can hope is Pixar has a lot more creative clout after a humongous hit like IO2 that they can push back on those fears with future movies now.

 

The piece is actually fairly nuanced in mentioning the positive experiences too, but I guess getting negative experiences into the spotlight again will help TAG with leverage this week. I'm sure a lot of the issues at Pixar are indicative of industry-wide conditions as well.

[ThomasNicole]

So … Disney decided to fully blame all Pixar problems in the queer kiss instead of their own business decision about Disney+? Alright lol

 

Pete Docter apparently is a nice guy and actually directed a good chunk of Inside Out 2 in the last minute despite not being credited and he was being pressured to death. The production was a mess, they changed a lot of things to make Riley less gay and everyone was working overtime because of it. 
 

Elio is facing the exact same type of production and that’s why they changed the director. 
 

And worse, they did said Pixar was always very reliable and fair with it’s staff until the layoffs hit it. They send people home before IO2 to not pay their bonuses and the people remaining are all exhausted from the crew to the leaders. 
 

Yeah fuck Disney, absolutely insane how they’re managing things and i wonder if this is a overall situation with all their departments, because it seems so.

[Mojoguy]

32 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

 

Big yikes. 

Pixar is just as bad as those people that overworked the Across the Spiderverse animators.

[AniNate]

As far as Oscars go, I would say this is no longer a lock for a win at least, but I was thinking that before this piece came out

[Mojoguy]

Some quotes from the article are wild

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“I think for a month or two, the animators were working seven days a week,” one source says. “Ridiculous amounts of production workers, just people being tossed into jobs they'd never really done before… It was horrendous.”

To qualify for the bonus, an employee would have to have worked on a project for a certain amount of time (which, as noted, was most of Pixar at the time), and be employed at the time when the bonuses are distributed.

“To be told by our HR reps that we were not going to qualify for that bonus felt like an ultimate ‘f*** you’ from Disney,” one former employee says.

One of the major reasons that bonus was important, multiple sources say, is because Pixar’s base pay for many positions is considered low for Emeryville, Calif., an expensive Bay Area city where many of them were required to live.

“The day that the layoffs happened was like a funeral. There was weeping and crying in the atrium,” one source says. “There are images from that day that are going to stay with me for quite a long time.”

The way the layoffs unfolded, too, left those affected scrambling. Specifically, Pixar locked affected employees out of the network the day of the layoffs, cutting off access to work materials for demo reels, personal files, benefit information, and more.

Even key card access was restricted outside of normal work-week hours, and laid-off employees were asked not to visit the office to pick up their belongings during those times so as to not make the remaining employees feel awkward.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Mojoguy

[justnumbers]

Heh. Reality is that there's nothing surprising here.

[BadOlCatSylvester]

Chris Meledandri should be sending a basket of flowers to Iger's offices right now, because this piece ensures The Wild Robot has that Oscar in the bag.

[AniNate]

He just runs Illumination. Margie Cohn is who'd send them

 

Wild Robot does have its share of unflattering bts context though being the last movie fully made in Glendale. But I  doubt it'll matter to voters

Edited 21 hours ago by AniNate

[ZeroHour]

None of this is going to matter to voters. The academy really doesn't care that much about how people are treated behind the scenes, especially on animated movies. They only care if you embarrass them at the ceremony on live TV. This movie was always going to have real competition from The Wild Robot.