The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[Mojoguy]

4 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

 

I'm guessing you forgot the reboot did very well lol

I completely forgot the Bayturtles films existed. 😂 

[Tinalera]

Looks like Cineplex is deciding to make trackers go extra steps now. No longer any x amount x remaining numbers. Nope just a map of the seats and it will block off seats as they get sold. 

 

Good old abacus and finger counting time  

 

BTW took a look at Blue Beetle numbers for Vancouver and Calgary.....nothing sold yet, and Im only getting a couple of my usual theatres selling presales. 

[VanillaSkies]

30 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

Looks like Cineplex is deciding to make trackers go extra steps now. No longer any x amount x remaining numbers. Nope just a map of the seats and it will block off seats as they get sold. 

 

Good old abacus and finger counting time  

 

BTW took a look at Blue Beetle numbers for Vancouver and Calgary.....nothing sold yet, and Im only getting a couple of my usual theatres selling presales. 

My Cineplex app still has the numbers. Maybe it’s just a temporary glitch?

[Tinalera]

9 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:

My Cineplex app still has the numbers. Maybe it’s just a temporary glitch?

Just tried it on website, (not app)-still no numbers, unless they put them in a different place? Or maybe I have to have the app to get numbers.

 

Im fine doing the manual count, but it was nice having the "20 seats out of 100 sold" info. My phone is a cheapie and doesn't like apps lol. So I just use the website.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2023 by Tinalera

[TheFlatLannister]

On 8/1/2023 at 6:27 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Melbourne-Gainesville greater region 

 

Blue Beetle

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-16 

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
150	433	26422	1.6%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-16

 

(0.211x) of The Flash

~$2.04M THUR Previews 

 

(0.232x) of Indy 5

~$1.67M THUR Previews

 

(0.308x) of Fast X

~$2.31M THUR Previews

 

Comps AVG: $2.00M previews 

 

If I had to guess right now I would say O/U $20M OW. DOA as many expected. 

Orlando-Melbourne-Gainesville greater region 

 

Blue Beetle

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-15

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
150	511	26422	1.9%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

78

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-15

 

(0.240x) of The Flash

~$2.33M THUR Previews 

 

(0.268x) of Indy 5

~$1.93M THUR Previews

 

(0.359x) of Fast X

~$2.69M THUR Previews

 

Comps AVG: $2.31M previews 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 8/1/2023 at 6:17 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

THE MEG 2: THE TRENCH

 

THURSDAY Previews 

 

T-2

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
170	517	30751	1.7%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

148

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

10

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-2

 

(0.245x) of Mi7

~$1.72M THUR Previews

 

(0.207x) of Fast X

~$1.55M THUR Previews

 

(0.182x) of RoTB

~$1.60M THUR Previews

 

Comp AVG: $1.62M

 

Disney springs is finally up. Heading to $2m previews. Probably $20m+ OW

 

Unofficial comp courtesy of @CJohn

0.903x of insidious 5 ($4.52M)

 

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

THE MEG 2: THE TRENCH

 

THURSDAY Previews 

 

T-1

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
176	667	31728	2.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

150

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

6

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-1

 

(0.291x) of Mi7

~$2.04M THUR Previews

 

(0.225x) of Fast X

~$1.69M THUR Previews

 

(0.177x) of RoTB

~$1.56M THUR Previews

 

Comp AVG: $1.76M

 

Heading for ~$2m previews if I had to guess 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 8/1/2023 at 6:34 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Melbourne-Gainesville greater region 

 

Strays 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-16 

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
138	207	24786	0.83%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-16

 

(0.159x) of Oppenheimer 

~$1.67M THUR Previews 

 

Having trouble finding good comps for this. 

Orlando-Melbourne-Gainesville greater region 

 

Strays 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-15

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
138	215	24786	0.87%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

8

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-15

 

(0.159x) of Oppenheimer 

~$1.67M THUR Previews 

[Eric the Marxist]

4 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

I completely forgot the Bayturtles films existed. 😂 

KNOCK KNOCK YOU ABOUT TO GET SHELL SHOCKED

[YM!]

1 hour ago, Eric the Turtle said:

KNOCK KNOCK YOU ABOUT TO GET SHELL SHOCKED

… I uh… been listening to that song recently.

[WorkingonaName]

Shellshock was a fucking banger, I miss early 2010s music.  

[vafrow]

5 hours ago, Tinalera said:

Looks like Cineplex is deciding to make trackers go extra steps now. No longer any x amount x remaining numbers. Nope just a map of the seats and it will block off seats as they get sold. 

 

Good old abacus and finger counting time  

 

BTW took a look at Blue Beetle numbers for Vancouver and Calgary.....nothing sold yet, and Im only getting a couple of my usual theatres selling presales. 

 

I still have ticket counts in the Cineplex app. Are you looking at the website or through the app? I'm on Android if that makes any difference.

 

If they switch it up that way, not sure if I'll be able to keep up anything significant. Especially when I do broader sweeps of the region.

[TheFlatLannister]

2 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

THE MEG 2: THE TRENCH

 

THURSDAY Previews 

 

T-1

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
176	667	31728	2.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

150

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

6

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-1

 

(0.291x) of Mi7

~$2.04M THUR Previews

 

(0.225x) of Fast X

~$1.69M THUR Previews

 

(0.177x) of RoTB

~$1.56M THUR Previews

 

Comp AVG: $1.76M

 

Heading for ~$2m previews if I had to guess 

btw Insidious 5 comp is at 0.869x $4.35m 

[keysersoze123]

On 8/1/2023 at 9:19 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Meg 2 MTC1 previews(T-2) - 17401/322460 293565.81 2320 shows

Meg 2 MTC1 previews(T-1) - 23147/326836 384705.93 2354 shows +5746

 

Anemic pace for T-1 day. Probably looking at 46kish finish. 2.3m previews. 

[lorddemaxus]

4 hours ago, YM! said:

… I uh… been listening to that song recently.

I too have listened to it more times than I'd like to admit.

[Eric the Marxist]

5 hours ago, YM! said:

… I uh… been listening to that song recently.

 

1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:

I too have listened to it more times than I'd like to admit.

No reason to be ashamed of liking a banger. Of course, it's no Ninja Rap. 

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Meg 2 MTC1 previews(T-1) - 23147/326836 384705.93 2354 shows +5746

 

Anemic pace for T-1 day. Probably looking at 46kish finish. 2.3m previews. 

yeah, after decent T-2, meh T-1.

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

Blue Beetle, T-16, southern Ontario

 

Tickets only went online last night for the region and only slowly rolled out. Sales for the broader region are at 16 across 25 theatres and 84 showtimes.

 

With sale release happening without a lot of fanfare, I'll check in a couple of days to see if there's much movement, but, right now, pretty flat. It's better than the first read I got on Haunted Mansion, which had 7 tickets sold at T-26.

 

Its comparable to the first read I got on Gran Turismo, which had 18 tickets at T-20 before those shows got pulled.

 

Blue Beetle, T-15, southern Ontario

 

I'm glad I followed up today with a count, as total theatres jumped from 25 to 38, and showtimes from 84 to 129. Clearly yesterday was still in processing of uploading showtimes.

 

Tickets sold today are 75, which is much better than the 16 from yesterday, and also better than the few comps i have like Haunted Mansion over this radius. But, at 2 tickets per theatre on average, still feels pretty low for a comic book film, even a lower tier one.

[katnisscinnaplex]

23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Meg 2	T-1	Jax	5	42	67	203	5,918	3.43%
		Phx	6	42	50	135	5,665	2.38%
		Ral	8	25	42	120	2,852	4.21%
	Total		19	109	159	458	14,435	3.17%

 

Meg 2 T-1 comps

 - Free Guy - 1.134x (2.49m)

 - Beast - 2.76x (2.55m)

 - Old - 2.27x (3.4m)

 - Knock at the Cabin - 1.832x (2.66m)

 - Lost City (Thu) - .948x (2.37m)

 - Jungle Cruise - .991x (2.68m)

 - Death on the Nile (Thu) - 1.84x (2.02m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 2.47m

 

Meg 2 pace chart

Movie	3-day pace	Prev 3-day	Prev 3-day	Last Day
Meg 2	143.62%	62.23%		53.18%
Free Guy	45.32%	42.45%		15.10%
Beast	159.38%	29.69%	53.33%	46.90%
Old	158.97%	53.85%		53.03%
Knock at the Cabin	72.41%	26.21%	13.08%	23.15%
Lost City	101.25%	16.67%	20.00%	38.40%
Jungle Cruise	126.47%	24.02%	31.61%	40.85%
Death on the Nile				22.06%

 

Really good day.  Better increase than all comps, which are now all above 2m.  

 

 

Data labels are on for Meg 2.  Based on this, I am now setting my expectations at 2.8m+ and possibly pushing 3m by tomorrow.

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Meg 2	T-0	Jax	5	42	114	317	5,918	5.36%
		Phx	6	42	31	166	5,665	2.93%
		Ral	8	25	71	191	2,852	6.70%
	Total		19	109	216	674	14,435	4.67%

 

Meg 2 T-0 comps

 - Free Guy - 1.176x (2.59m)

 - Beast - 2.92x (2.7m)

 - Old - 2.055x (3.08m)

 - Knock at the Cabin - 1.832x (2.66m)

 - Lost City (Thu) - .983x (2.46m)

 - Jungle Cruise - .988x (2.67m)

 - Death on the Nile (Thu) - 1.99x (2.19m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 2.56m

Growth model forecast - 2.88m

 

Meg 2 pace chart

Movie	3-day pace	Prev 3-day	Prev 3-day	Last Day
Meg 2	202.24%	52.91%		47.16%
Free Guy	87.87%	33.44%	51.23%	41.83%
Beast	192.41%	37.97%	46.94%	39.16%
Old	228.00%	51.00%		62.38%
Knock at the Cabin	117.75%	24.26%	22.66%	47.20%
Lost City	151.28%	25.64%	12.81%	42.03%
Jungle Cruise	185.36%	28.03%	29.07%	47.62%
Death on the Nile	104.85%			35.74%

 

Matched the growth of Jungle Cruise and Knock at the Cabin.  Ahead of most of the other comps (except Old).    I'm confident in 2.3m as the floor now, and I'll put my prediction at 2.55m.  Pretty interesting that the closest tickets sold comps I have (excluding EA) are Lost City and Jungle Cruise, which I would expect to cater to similar demographics.  

[katnisscinnaplex]

23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Gran Turismo (EA)	T-0	Jax	1	1	4	15	51	29.41%
		Phx	1	1	2	35	123	28.46%
	Total		3	3	6	50	174	28.74%
	T-6	Jax	2	2	-1	8	841	0.95%
	T-7	Jax	5	7	11	80	960	8.33%
		Phx	1	1	10	44	208	21.15%
		Ral	1	1	3	17	261	6.51%
	Total		7	9	24	141	1,429	9.87%
Last Voyage	T-8	Jax	5	12	6	18	1,387	1.30%
		Phx	5	14	2	8	1,138	0.70%
		Ral	6	15	2	10	1,361	0.73%
	Total		16	41	10	36	3,886	0.93%

 

Last Voyage T-8 comps

 - M3GAN - missed

 - Black Phone - .34x (883k)

 - Knock at the Cabin - .346x (502k)

 - Northman - .275x (371k)

 - Green Knight - 1x (750k)

 - Talk to Me - .973x (1.21m)

 - Beast - .947x (876k)

 

Size adjusted comps - 956k

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Gran Turismo (EA)	T-5	Jax	2	2	0	8	841	0.95%
	T-6	Jax	5	7	5	85	960	8.85%
		Phx	1	1	4	48	208	23.08%
		Ral	1	1	4	21	261	8.05%
	Total		7	9	13	154	1,429	10.78%
Last Voyage	T-7	Jax	5	12	3	21	1,387	1.51%
		Phx	5	14	3	11	1,138	0.97%
		Ral	6	15	8	18	1,361	1.32%
	Total		16	41	14	50	3,886	1.29%

 

Last Voyage T-7 comps

 - M3GAN - missed

 - Black Phone - .424x (1.1m)

 - Knock at the Cabin - .467x (678k)

 - Northman - .316x (427k)

 - Green Knight - 1.19x (893k)

 - Talk to Me - 1.111x (1.38m)

 - Beast - 1.111x (1.03m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 1.04m

 

Could this reach 1m for previews?  Renfield did 900k with EA.  First day I tracked that was T-2 when it had 185 tickets sold (including EA).  I guess it's possible, but I'm more in the 800k camp at the moment.

[katnisscinnaplex]

23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Blue Beetle	T-15	Jax	4	30	23	23	4,950	0.46%
		Phx	5	37	30	30	6,488	0.46%
		Ral	4	13	25	25	2,447	1.02%
	Total		13	80	78	78	13,885	0.56%
Strays	T-15	Jax	6	15	0	9	1,897	0.47%
		Phx	5	20	-1	13	2,081	0.62%
		Ral	6	18	2	18	2,703	0.67%
	Total		17	53	1	40	6,681	0.60%
Strays (EA)	T-14	Jax	3	3	0	3	352	0.85%
		Phx	3	3	0	0	403	0.00%
		Ral	4	4	0	0	506	0.00%
	Total		10	10	0	3	1,261	0.24%

 

Strays (Total) T-15 comps

 - Easter Sunday - 3.58x (1.79m)

 - D&D (Total) - missed

 - Joy Ride (Total) - .935x (1.03m)

 - 80 for Brady (Total) - 1.54x (1.15m)

 - Cocaine Bear - .387x (775k)

 

Size adjusted average - 1.06m

 

Blue Beetle day 1 comps

 - Black Adam - .254x (1.93m)

 - Shazam 2 - .574x (1.95m)

 - Black Widow - .145x (1.92m)

 - Eternals - .102x (971k)

 - Shang-Chi - .134x (1.18m)

 

I'm not sure what expectations are... but under 2m would be pretty bad, right?

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Blue Beetle	T-14	Jax	4	30	7	30	4,950	0.61%
		Phx	5	37	6	36	6,488	0.55%
		Ral	5	16	14	39	2,954	1.32%
	Total		14	83	27	105	14,392	0.73%
Strays	T-14	Jax	6	15	3	12	1,897	0.63%
		Phx	5	20	0	13	2,081	0.62%
		Ral	6	18	2	20	2,703	0.74%
	Total		17	53	5	45	6,681	0.67%
Strays (EA)	T-13	Jax	3	3	0	3	352	0.85%
		Phx	3	3	0	0	403	0.00%
		Ral	4	4	2	2	506	0.40%
	Total		10	10	2	5	1,261	0.40%

 

Strays (Total) T-14 comps

 - Easter Sunday - 4.55x (2.27m)

 - Joy Ride (Total) - 1.087x (1.2m)

 - 80 for Brady (Total) - 1.389x (1.04m)

 - Cocaine Bear - .439x (877k)

 - Violent Night - 1.667x (1.83m) 

 - Turtles (Total) - .105x (580k)

 

Size adjusted average - 1.22m

 

Blue Beetle day 2 comps

 - Black Widow - .138x (1.82m)

 - Eternals - .119x (1.13m)

 - Shang-Chi - .165x (1.45m)

 

Maybe comp isn't the right word, because these movies aren't really comparable.  Here are some movies that may end up being closer comps:

 

 - Cocaine Bear - .921x (1.84m)

 - Bullet Train - .83x (2.79m)

 - Turtles - .538x (2.07m)

 - Suicide Squad - .425x (1.74m)