RTX Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 WB is licking their chops to put a Batman movie in 3D, especially in overseas markets. They will have 3 objectives at the top of the list for the reboot:1. Put it in 3D.2. Give Batman 30 minutes or more of screentime instead of 15 minutes.3. Make the film 125 minutes instead of 165 minutes.1. Since when did you become a fan of 3D? lol2. Bruce Wayne is more interesting and more relatable protagonist than Batman, I didn't mind watching a film about him.3. Long runtime doesn't hurt the box office, if the film has a story to tell. Avatar, Titanic, ROTK were all pretty long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sub $400m?!?(if only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 1. Since when did you become a fan of 3D? lol2. Bruce Wayne is more interesting and more relatable protagonist than Batman, I didn't mind watching a film about him.3. Long runtime doesn't hurt the box office, if the film has a story to tell. Avatar, Titanic, ROTK were all pretty long.RTX, those are not my requests. I hate 3D. I'm making assumptions about what WB will want in the film based on financial aspects (3D) and storytelling aspects that some are complaining about with Rises (too long and not enough Batman). WB is a very cynical studio. Look what they did with Batman Forever in response to Batman Returns being "too dark" for Happy Meals at McDonald's. I would fully expect them to make the reboot more commercially friendly than what Nolan did with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 If this movie makes 70M+ this weekend, $400M is a LOCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 3. Long runtime doesn't hurt the box office, if the film has a story to tell. Avatar, Titanic, ROTK were all pretty long.Exactly.I got more of a story from any 5 minutes of TDKR than I did the entire 150minutes of ROTF!That being said, I still love TF2 and could watch it over and over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The only place 3D truly works is a ten minute film at a Disney or Universal park 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The only place 3D truly works is a ten minute film at a Disney or Universal parkWrong.3D works when people give it a chance to work and stop being so critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Ideally, I would love if the reboot shoots in IMAX. I loved the IMAX footage in TDK, M:I4, and TDKR. Would like to see the Batman franchise stay associated with that format instead of the gimmick gash crab that is 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I seen it twice this past weekend in real IMAX and I'm going to a regular theater this Saturday to see it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMovieman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Re: 3D - It should be noted that it was probably up to Nolan as he no doubt had almost complete control over the project and he's been adamant about not liking 3D...As for the numbers, not sure why people are getting all depressed. Yes, it sucks but given the circumstances, not sure why anyone is surprised. For me, this weekend will tell the story. Edited July 26, 2012 by TheMovieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Everyone should read thishttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-box-office-watch-dark-knight-rises-20120726,0,697006.story A poll taken by a major Hollywood market research firm showed that on Monday, 25% of moviegoers were reluctant to head to theaters but that number had declined to 20% by Thursday.That is likely to affect the grosses of "Dark Knight" and all other current releases. After opening with a massive $160.9 million last weekend in the wake of the tragedy, "The Dark Knight Rises" is expected to take in an additional $65 million to $70 million this round, according to those who have seen pre-release audience surveys.everyone put this in their head Edited July 26, 2012 by Hasan Ahmad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Everyone should read thishttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-box-office-watch-dark-knight-rises-20120726,0,697006.storyeveryone put this in their headEveryone on the forums are projecting a $60M 2nd weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 RTX, those are not my requests. I hate 3D. I'm making assumptions about what WB will want in the film based on financial aspects (3D) and storytelling aspects that some are complaining about with Rises (too long and not enough Batman). WB is a very cynical studio. Look what they did with Batman Forever in response to Batman Returns being "too dark" for Happy Meals at McDonald's. I would fully expect them to make the reboot more commercially friendly than what Nolan did with it.Shit... Now you got me really worried with possible future BF and B&R (big ass commercials for Micky d's and toys) jkBut I do not want another origin either as I also consider BB as one of the, if not the greatest origin story (for me not just comic story but overall fiction) in the history of cinemas. I didn't see it in the theater but saw it on DVD. That's when I actually started having respect for Nolan.I think the incredible hulk had a smooth opening scene where it told banner's origin in a few minutes. I'd rather see that than another origin story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 If this movie makes 70M+ this weekend, $400M is a LOCK.I think it makes it even if does 60m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Shit... Now you got me really worried with possible future BF and B&R (big ass commercials for Micky d's and toys) jkBut I do not want another origin either as I also consider BB as one of the, if not the greatest origin story (for me not just comic story but overall fiction) in the history of cinemas. I didn't see it in the theater but saw it on DVD. That's when I actually started having respect for Nolan.I think the incredible hulk had a smooth opening scene where it told banner's origin in a few minutes. I'd rather see that than another origin story.The difficult thing about doing it through a credits sequence is that Batman's origin is tragic. He isn't created through some freak scientific accident, he's created through the most painful moment imaginable. A credits sequence for this would have to be handled very well for the audience to buy into it.And I agree about the BB origin. First hour of that movie is amazing. Feels like something out of Greek mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I think it does 68-70m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I think it does 68-70mI'd be very happy with that result after the drops this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 That's very true. I just dont think it would be smart to use half of the movie doing the origin story when there is already BB that done it perfectly. All the scenes with Bruce and Thomas (then Alfred comforting Bruce) made my heart ache like shit. Those were really really emotional and well done (when the scene wih Thomas going down the well showed up in TDKR, I got a bit emotional lol )Hopefully they can find a way to make it work.I believe they can if they can get a stellar production team. It's gonna be wicked hard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 That's very true. I just dont think it would be smart to use half of the movie doing the origin story when there is already BB that done it perfectly. All the scenes with Bruce and Thomas (then Alfred comforting Bruce) made my heart ache like shit. Those were really really emotional and well done (when the scene wih Thomas going down the well showed up in TDKR, I got a bit emotional lol )Hopefully they can find a way to make it work.I believe they can if they can get a stellar production team. It's gonna be wicked hard though.It's not just the stuff with his dad, it's also the moments with Alfred, Gordon, Loeb, and Earle. Caine's acting was perfect when he's consoling young Bruce. The contrast between Gordon, Loeb, and Earle is important. Gordon is the only one other than Alfred who cares about how Bruce is feeling. The others are focused on other things. Loeb is focused on busting the bad guy. Earle is focused on Bruce's financial empire. They couldn't have revealed Bruce's identity to Gordon in a better way. The flashback to that scene in Begins made me tear up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 It's not just the stuff with his dad, it's also the moments with Alfred, Gordon, Loeb, and Earle. Caine's acting was perfect when he's consoling young Bruce. The contrast between Gordon, Loeb, and Earle is important. Gordon is the only one other than Alfred who cares about how Bruce is feeling. The others are focused on other things. Loeb is focused on busting the bad guy. Earle is focused on Bruce's financial empire. They couldn't have revealed Bruce's identity to Gordon in a better way. The flashback to that scene in Begins made me tear up. When he uttered his name... My heart took a right upper cut ol it makes sense that Gordon unknowingly showed Bruce anyone can be a hero (batman) A lot of reviewers always said Lucius and Alfred were bruce's father figure (very true) but i also saw gordon as a similar figure because of BB (he is mostly seen as a friend/partner, which is very true as well).The actors just freaking nailed these emotional scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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