The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

[John Marston]

22 hours ago, cax16 said:

Lol MTTSH has no idea if this is true or not cause only Gunn and Safran and probably a few high up execs know their plans right now. They’re just bitter cause of Levi’s post on Cavills Instagram and are trying to sound like they know what’s going on, this is the game these “scoopers” play, if they reboot they can say “see I told you” and if he doesn’t hard reboot they can just say “oh my bad, plans changed I guess”.

 

The only thing people know right now is what Gunn has said so far and what we know from tests screenings of the 2023 movies. 

 

 

it is probably true. Also many of these scoopers have been right. Hollywood Reporter said a full reboot is planned and that is what it is looking like 

Edited December 18, 2022 by John Marston

[cax16]

16 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

it is probably true. Also many of these scoopers have been right. Hollywood Reporter said a full reboot is planned and that is what it is looking like 

Scoopers know nothing about this situation, it’s all guessing at this point. Of course any of the stuff could come true but none of them know the details as of now. THR also doesn’t know anything and are just assuming cause of Cavills exit, and again it may happen but they don’t either. 

[John Marston]

19 minutes ago, cax16 said:

Scoopers know nothing about this situation, it’s all guessing at this point. Of course any of the stuff could come true but none of them know the details as of now. THR also doesn’t know anything and are just assuming cause of Cavills exit, and again it may happen but they don’t either. 

 

 

Everything  Hollywood Reporter said a week ago is being revealed to be true 

[cax16]

5 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Everything  Hollywood Reporter said a week ago is being revealed to be true 

What exactly did they say? The wrap reported a month or so ago about Cavill not having a contract yet so the news about Cavill has already been out there. All the reports about Jenkins were wrong, we still have no idea about anything other then what Gunn has told us or confirmed. We don’t know what’s happening with the 2023 movies or anything else other then a cameo being removed. 

 

I get it, they all wanna speculate and be the first to say I told you so but I don’t believe anything anymore till Gunn confirms it or says it himself. As I said, it may be a full reboot but no one knows that for sure but Gunn and Safran and whoever they presented their plan too. 

[cax16]

Well, I finally figured out who runs this account on Twitter.

 

 

 

@excel1

[ZattMurdock]

On 12/17/2022 at 5:35 PM, cax16 said:

Lol MTTSH has no idea if this is true or not cause only Gunn and Safran and probably a few high up execs know their plans right now. They’re just bitter cause of Levi’s post on Cavills Instagram and are trying to sound like they know what’s going on, this is the game these “scoopers” play, if they reboot they can say “see I told you” and if he doesn’t hard reboot they can just say “oh my bad, plans changed I guess”.

 

The only thing people know right now is what Gunn has said so far and what we know from tests screenings of the 2023 movies. 

I mean, I throughly dislike these superhero leakers when it comes to this stuff and I agree that they are full of shit, but I do think what we are seeing is an everything must go scenario. I do think that if the main players are out, no one is safe, including Levi. Something that I’m intrigued is on the how. I do think we are seeing an actual hard reboot happening in the big screen, an Infinite Crisis of sorts. 

[GOGODanca]

I hope the rumors about him keeping his tss and peacemaker cast and getting rid of everyone else aren't true 

[cax16]

3 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

I mean, I throughly dislike these superhero leakers when it comes to this stuff and I agree that they are full of shit, but I do think what we are seeing is an everything must go scenario. I do think that if the main players are out, no one is safe, including Levi. Something that I’m intrigued is on the how. I do think we are seeing an actual hard reboot happening in the big screen, an Infinite Crisis of sorts. 

I’m not doubting a hard reboot in any way, it definitely could happen and probably will. My only point in all of this is these leakers are lying and don’t know shit. 

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, cax16 said:

I’m not doubting a hard reboot in any way, it definitely could happen and probably will. My only point in all of this is these leakers are lying and don’t know shit. 

Oh that for sure. You all have absolute no idea how much the most famous ‘leakers’ have an influence for crazy shit regarding superhero films from either DC or Marvel on social media. It’s maddening yes, actually.

[cax16]

Just now, ZattMurdock said:

Oh that for sure. You all have absolute no idea how much the most famous ‘leakers’ have an influence for crazy shit regarding superhero films from either DC or Marvel on social media. It’s maddening yes, actually.

Agreed, can’t stand the majority of them. 

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, cax16 said:

Agreed, can’t stand the majority of them. 

Never mind ‘majority’. All of them. Including those that post or used to post here. Fuck the noise.

[cax16]

1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:

Never mind ‘majority’. All of them. Including those that post or used to post here. Fuck the noise.

That’s why I appreciate the honest and open posts from Gunn over the last few weeks. He’s shut down so many rumours already. I know it won’t go on like this forever but it’s nice to have it happening for now. 

[ZattMurdock]

5 minutes ago, cax16 said:

That’s why I appreciate the honest and open posts from Gunn over the last few weeks. He’s shut down so many rumours already. I know it won’t go on like this forever but it’s nice to have it happening for now. 

What Gunn is doing while commendable, it’s too much. He was always very well skilled communicating with the fans as a director and I want him to keep that, but as a Feige like figure he is playing a different ballpark now. His secrets should have secrets now. Working in silence is for the best, mostly not hinting where they are going way ahead of what is going on. Also he should really look for advice to kill any potential leakers that work inside WB. Whatever this Say Hello person had sway at Marvel Studios before, it clearly doesn’t have anymore. Also, they need a much more strict test screening policy, I firmly believe that the way that literally whole storylines leaking years before hand when it comes to DC fans hurt expectations and only serves those that use the leaks for clout. Enough of DC films leaking and being introduced by Reddit / 4chan threads. 
 

Marvel plants fake stories to keep leakers off their back and I hope Gunn and Safran will tackle that as well.

[Macleod]

6 hours ago, cax16 said:

What exactly did they say? The wrap reported a month or so ago about Cavill not having a contract yet so the news about Cavill has already been out there. All the reports about Jenkins were wrong, we still have no idea about anything other then what Gunn has told us or confirmed. We don’t know what’s happening with the 2023 movies or anything else other then a cameo being removed.

 

Says who?  Jenkins' own statement is arguably as vague and inconclusive as anything else, and almost all of the gossip surrounding her exit could still fit into whatever scenario she described as her side of the story.  The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.  The question you should be asking is...who has an axe to grind against Jenkins, to have put such stories about her out there...and why?  Notice how Gunn has still not said "I'd be happy to work with her in the future" about Jenkins.  And notice how basic his one statement about her exit even was...it sure didn't sound effusive. 

 

But yeah, I've argued for a long time that this forum should have some higher standards and really only allow posts from the established Hollywood trades (and the principles involved, in this case Gunn, etc.), not these other Fan-culture Tweeters who basically have no journalistic credibility.  Having said all this, Borys Kit from THR is seen to be the most connected to any version of truth of what's going on at DC/Warner Bros. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Macleod

[Eric Prime]

So sad RIP 😔

 

 

[cax16]

14 minutes ago, Macleod said:

 

Says who?  Jenkins' own statement is arguably as vague and inconclusive as anything else, and almost all of the gossip surrounding her exit could still fit into whatever scenario she described as her side of the story.  The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.  The question you should be asking is...who has an axe to grind against Jenkins, to have put such stories about her out there...and why?  Notice how Gunn has still not said "I'd be happy to work with her in the future" about Jenkins.  And notice how basic his one statement about her exit even was...it sure didn't sound effusive. 

 

But yeah, I've argued for a long time that this forum should have some higher standards and really only allow posts from the established Hollywood trades (and the principles involved, in this case Gunn, etc.), not these other Fan-culture Tweeters who basically have no journalistic credibility.  Having said all this, Borys Kit from THR is seen to be the most connected to any version of truth of what's going on at DC/Warner Bros. 

Some insecure man would be my guess. Lots of men don’t know how to deal with strong confident women, we see it on a daily basis, I’ve seen it my whole life growing up with a single parent (my mom) who worked her way up to be a high level executive at a bank. 
 

To me her statement wasn’t vague at all, she said she couldn’t move forward with Wonder Woman at this time cause of the changes going on at DC and I didn’t see Gunn dispute that at all which tells me they’re obviously moving in a different direction. Maybe she just wasn’t interested in that direction? 

Edited December 19, 2022 by cax16

[excel1]

12 minutes ago, cax16 said:

Some insecure man would be my guess. Lots of men don’t know how to deal with strong confident women, we see it on a daily basis, I’ve seen it my whole life growing up with a single parent (my mom) who worked her way up to be a high level executive at a bank. 
 

To me her statement wasn’t vague at all, she said she couldn’t move forward with Wonder Woman at this time cause of the changes going on at DC and I didn’t see Gunn dispute that at all which tells me they’re obviously moving in a different direction. Maybe she just wasn’t interested in that direction? 

Why do people so often instantly run to the "don't know how to deal with strong confident women" argument? Maybe Patty Jenkins actually just sucks as a storyteller for WW3? Yes, even though she is a strong confident women, it is totally possible that she turned in a shit story. Know why it's possible? Because her most recent WW story sucked. It was a metaphor for global warming somehow....?

 

Patty has been treated fairly without question. People gave her props when she made a near perfect film, and hate when she made a hideously atrocious film. I suspect that had her WW3 take delivered, there would be enthusiasm for it.

Edited December 19, 2022 by excel1

[cax16]

10 minutes ago, excel1 said:

Why do people so often instantly run to the "don't know how to deal with strong confident women" argument? Maybe Patty Jenkins actually just sucks as a storyteller for WW3? Yes, even though she is a strong confident women, it is totally possible that she turned in a shit story. Know why it's possible? Because her most recent WW story sucked. It was a metaphor for global warming somehow....?

 

Patty has been treated fairly without question. People gave her props when she made a near perfect film, and hate when she made a hideously atrocious film. I suspect that had her WW3 take delivered, there would be enthusiasm for it.

Because it happens all the time? Why do you think people constantly say it if it doesn’t? I literally gave you real life evidence from my life.

 

Patty was treated fairly cause she made one mediocre movie? She deserve all the hate she’s gotten online? all the people saying she shouldn’t get another chance, that’s fair? All while we give mediocre male ( almost always white) directors chance after chance to keep failing up. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by cax16

[excel1]

36 minutes ago, cax16 said:

Because it happens all the time? Why do you think people constantly say it if it doesn’t? I literally gave you real life evidence from my life.

 

Patty was treated fairly cause she made one mediocre movie? She deserve all the hate she’s gotten online? all the people saying she shouldn’t get another chance, that’s fair? All while we give mediocre male ( almost always white) directors chance after chance to keep failing up. 

 

Who are "all the people" saying those things? She is absolutely being treated fairly, no differently than Snyder post BvS. Despite the complete all around disaster that was WW84, Patty Jenkins was given the opportunity to present her vision for WW3, no? I didn't dispute that it was a real dynamic. I am pointing out that there is ample reason to believe it doesn't apply here. She made an atrocious previous product. They're going to be more careful next time. If she presented more crap, she's out, just like Snyder. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by excel1

[cax16]

29 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

Who are "all the people" saying those things? She is absolutely being treated fairly, no differently than Snyder post BvS. Despite the complete all around disaster that was WW84, Patty Jenkins was given the opportunity to present her vision for WW3, no? I didn't dispute that it was a real dynamic. I am pointing out that there is ample reason to believe it doesn't apply here. She made an atrocious previous product. They're going to be more careful next time. If she presented more crap, she's out, just like Snyder. 

It’s pretty easy to see who are saying these things online. That’s why it’s so hypocritical to me.  Women in Hollywood are just treated differently then their male counterparts.

 

I don’t know if she was given the opportunity to present her vision for ww3 or not cause I don’t know what was true given the reporting. Maybe she had a version that wouldn’t fit with what Gunn has in mind? Maybe she just wasn’t given an opportunity to move forward or she chose not to move forward herself(which I assume is the case). Or maybe it was all about money like THR said, would anything surprise you with Zaslav? 

I’m gonna leave this discussion be for now. I don’t think it’s gonna get anywhere.