XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/china-entertainment-hollywood-movies-box-office-streaming-1203299667/ Interesting article on the Chinese media industry (film/streaming) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 Angry Birds 2 did not fly. Sad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, firedeep said: Angry Birds 2 did not fly. Sad! That looks like a Trump tweet NZ Fri 68m -40% WoW as expected. Tot 3887m/$555m The week will also be down 40%. Expect 4284m/$612m on Thur The 4 new releases took 58% of shows and made 118m. FFHS will take about 50% of shows and make 200m~ on OD. I think NZ should hold 40% next week also. In that case 500m more will be made, 4800m/$685m likely 4650m/$665m locked - 4900m/$700m still alive AB2 just 21m as PS suggested. Just over 70m/$10m OW incoming. Down 60% from AB1. Around $20m total(just 2x OW) likely with FFHS taking shows next week. Edited August 16, 2019 by POTUS 2020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, POTUS 2020 said: That looks like a Trump tweet NZ Fri 68m -40% WoW as expected. Tot 3887m/$555m The week will also be down 40%. Expect 4284m/$612m on Thur The 4 new releases took 58% of shows and made 118m. FFHS will take about 50% of shows and make 200m~ on OD. I think NZ should hold 40% next week also. In that case 500m more will be made 4800m/$685m likely 4650m/$665m locked 4900m/$700m still alive AB2 just 21m as PS suggested. Just over 70m/$10m OW incoming. Down 60% from AB1. Around $20m total(just 2x OW) likely with FFHS taking shows next week. NZ late legs already stronger than WW2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Sat NZ 110.5m -39% WoW 3999m/$571m Total AB2 23.6m +20% DoD Will fall short of 70m/$10m OW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 NZ success prove again the box office market is a zero sum game place. When a film falls, the other rises. I remember how people was freak out about China film market as multiple film was censored or got cancelled. In the end, NZ fills the market with 100m+admission. The summer gone like there was no censor drama after all. People always have that amount of time or money for cinema, just depend how they allocate to which film This also prove China film market is not fueled by one-two punch of one off success but the market manage to attract that kind of amount of moviegoers 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 That's some bull-shit. Ne Zha is doing whatever it is doing, not because of Zero-Sum game but a fucking 9.6 Maoyan score for a local biggie. If BO was zero-sum game, we would not be looking at just 1-3 billion dollar films next year, when there will be 8 this year. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Charlie Jatinder said: That's some bull-shit. Ne Zha is doing whatever it is doing, not because of Zero-Sum game but a fucking 9.6 Maoyan score for a local biggie. If BO was zero-sum game, we would not be looking at just 1-3 billion dollar films next year, when there will be 8 this year. You're sounding salty😆 He is correct in talking about BO market as a whole. There is only so much disposable income in a movie going population. A few great films can get a few more people out or get some people to go a few more times than normal. But when a few huge films hit the market, other films suffer, when a blockbuster disappoints or gets censored a vacuum is created and other movies thrive. NZ may have done less if the censored films hit the market. Im sure millions of chinese can only or wish to afford 1 movie in a month or a season. I went to 1 movie a month when i was a kid. In summer of 75., in June July August, i saw Jaws Jaws Jaws. Other movies suffered that summer. If this is a huge year with 8 one billion dollar films, why is domestic and china down YoY to date? As you can see below domestic mostly floats up or down a few percent. In 2014 only 2 movies could clear 300 and none over 400m, the year was down 5% from 2013(3movies over 400m). In 2015 we had AoU 450m, JW 650m SW7 650m (within 2015). These top 3 made 500m more than 2013's top 3 and the year was up just 200m, 2% from 2013 It is a zero sum game with 5% give either way. ear Total Gross* Change Tickets Sold Change # of Movies Total Screens Avg. Ticket Price Avg. Cost^ #1 Movie 2019 $7,390.3 - 820.2 - 482 - $9.01 - Avengers: Endgame 2018 $11,893.1 +7.4% 1,305.5 +5.8% 878 - $9.11 - Black Panther 2017 $11,072.2 -2.7% 1,234.4 -6.2% 740 - $8.97 - Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2016 $11,377.5 +2.2% 1,315.3 -0.4% 737 - $8.65 - Rogue One 2015 $11,129.4 +7.4% 1,320.2 +4.1% 706 - $8.43 - Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2014 $10,361.3 -5.2% 1,268.2 -5.6% 707 - $8.17 - American Sniper 2013 $10,924.6 +0.8% 1,343.7 -1.3% 689 - $8.13 - Catching Fire 2012 $10,837.6 +6.5% 1,361.5 +6.1% 669 - $7.96 - The Avengers 2011 $10,174.2 -3.7% 1,283.0 -4.2% 601 - $7.93 - Harry Potter / Deathly Hallows (P2) 2010 $10,565.6 -0.3% 1,339.1 -5.2% 538 - $7.89 - Toy Story 3 2009 $10,595.5 +10.0% 1,412.7 +5.3% 521 - $7.50 - Avatarp 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Jackie Chan’s movie bombing in spectacular fashion. He has been making terrible movies over the last 10 years, and it’s weighing down on his box office appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said: That's some bull-shit. Ne Zha is doing whatever it is doing, not because of Zero-Sum game but a fucking 9.6 Maoyan score for a local biggie. If BO was zero-sum game, we would not be looking at just 1-3 billion dollar films next year, when there will be 8 this year. 2016;s highest grossing film was barely half of the 2015s (CW vs SW7). None of them approached 1.5b but in 2015, there were 3 and AoU wasn't far behind. Yet 2016 global box office number barely drop. In fact, even in USA, the total gross grew in 2016 despite Rogue one only reached half of the SW7. With Endgame hitting 2.8b, and 8 billionaire this year, global market will hardly grow. Looking at all the champion of the year, their number fluctuate from year to year but that doesn't really affect the box office grossing as a whole, 2012- 1.5b 2013- 1.28b 2014- 1.1b 2015- 2.07b 2016-1.15b 2017-1.33b Conclusion, box office market is a zero sum game. 2018-2.05b 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Ne Zha USA release 29th August. Will release in IMAX 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum Avery Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 2:22 PM, titanic2187 said: 2016;s highest grossing film was barely half of the 2015s (CW vs SW7). None of them approached 1.5b but in 2015, there were 3 and AoU wasn't far behind. Yet 2016 global box office number barely drop. In fact, even in USA, the total gross grew in 2016 despite Rogue one only reached half of the SW7. With Endgame hitting 2.8b, and 8 billionaire this year, global market will hardly grow. Looking at all the champion of the year, their number fluctuate from year to year but that doesn't really affect the box office grossing as a whole, 2012- 1.5b 2013- 1.28b 2014- 1.1b 2015- 2.07b 2016-1.15b 2017-1.33b Conclusion, box office market is a zero sum game. 2018-2.05b Suddenly TOTAL market expansions are gone xD HAHAHA TTVOMJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum Avery Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said: Ne Zha USA release 29th August. Will release in IMAX 3D. When can we expect early numbers again you amazing indian man you? ^^ It2? Joker? Frozen2? Skywalker? All of them and only them? XD TTVOMJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Maximum Avery said: When can we expect early numbers again you amazing indian man you? ^^ It2? Joker? Frozen2? Skywalker? All of them and only them? XD TTVOMJ IT 2 and then Frozen 2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 IT2 is banned in China. Joker likely wont be released either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous5445 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, firedeep said: IT2 is banned in China. Joker likely wont be released either. Is that official? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, infamous5445 said: Is that official? you dont get official ban from China. It's expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, firedeep said: Joker likely wont be released either. Expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I actually don’t think Hobbs and Shaw will get that bad of wom in China 92% on EGG in South Korea 3.9/5 on filmark in japan prob will get 8.8 - 9 on maoyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Minnale101 said: I actually don’t think Hobbs and Shaw will get that bad of wom in China 92% on EGG in South Korea 3.9/5 on filmark in japan prob will get 8.8 - 9 on maoyan When can we expect scores in maoyan for H&S. Tomo night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...