keysersoze123 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: $120m?? Seems a bit high but I know next to nothing about the Chinese market Too early unless weekend trend reflects this WOM. But I wont say its impossible until we confirm that one way or other. Its not outrageous for this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Noon Time. Oppenheimer Thursday $2M it should double from here for $4M+ and beat it’s $3.5M projections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM721 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, The GOAT said: Noon Time. Oppenheimer Thursday $2M it should double from here for $4M+ and beat it’s $3.5M projections. Yeah I believe forecast by Maoyan today is underestimated. Wednesday’s actual seems drops to 35.6m yuan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 防弹松鼠 Forecast is of ¥300M / $41M. Below AI of Maoyan &Taopiaopiao. But, I think it's on the stop unless we see some serious overperformance against AI Daily Forecast ~ Edited August 31, 2023 by Issac Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 What has changed since 2019 that it has become a niche fan base. Is it that local movies are way stronger compared to pre COVID or because of US/China conflict, many are put off with Hollywood. Only other thing on my mind is a bad take on what happened during COVID and I want to avoid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: What has changed since 2019 that it has become a niche fan base. Is it that local movies are way stronger compared to pre COVID or because of US/China conflict, many are put off with Hollywood. Only other thing on my mind is a bad take on what happened during COVID and I want to avoid that. I suppose such sudden changes happen only when there is some politics involved. And the change has really come at end of last year because Summer 2022 titles and before that behaved as you would expect. Jurassic World did what $150M? that’s what it was expected to do. There were GvK and F9 in 2021 and so on. Something happened at end of last year. @Gavin Feng and others on ground would know better about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: 防弹松鼠 Forecast is of ¥300M / $41M. Below AI of Maoyan &Taopiaopiao. But, I think it's on the stop unless we see some serious overperformance against AI Daily Forecast ~ Oh I think it will def do more than 300M. I haven’t checked Oppy performance here but almost every where Oppy was presales heavy but legged well. Something like 38 27 33 55 45 // 198 final may be 450M ish? unless there’re some local competition Edited August 31, 2023 by across the Jat verse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, across the Jat verse said: final may be 450M ish? unless there’re some local competition Yes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, The GOAT said: Yes Sorry it's gone dead with No More Bets. Edit: it's actually 01.09.2023 not 11.08.2023 as it got delayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Hollywood is like going back to 10 years ago where most movies did somewhere around $50M with few hit $100M. A big reason is these movies lack motion abreaction or transmissibility. Moviegoers may think Barbie / Oppenheimer are good, and that's it. Most of general audience won't go theater just because it's good, because general people have very few attention on movie itself or art. Currently, Chinese economy is pretty bad. Many youth can't have jobs or see their future. But the way it affects the film market is changing the inclination of moviegoers instead of weakening their willingness to go cinema. There has been some big hits this summer. But all of them have some themes of self-protecting. Lost in the Stars is about how women seek justice and put a sleazy man in jail. Never Say Never is saying how people from underclass society can make a living in big cities. No More Bets tells a story about anti-spoofing. They're not great ones. Far from good level like some Korean realistic stuff. But they did give local audience a space to express their mood and feeling. In public, Chinese people cannot talk about the fact that we're in a bad time under the rule of Xiburger as he strengthen control on thoughts and words. So people use different ways to release emotions and criticize person in power. In internet, we don't say, "China sucks." We say, "Korea sucks", "India sucks", "Myanmar sucks" (setting of No More Bets). And we all know which one really sucks. Another hit Creation of the Gods has no modern background story, but some people see the king in this film as Xiburger and get killed by his son and successors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Mayor had a target of ¥60B for 2023 BO. let's just not forget this summer we saw a lot of breakout starting from Lost In The Stars, Never Say Never, Chang An, Creation and now No More Bets also not to forget some fan loaded films like One and Only, Born To Fly &yeah Labour Day release including the prestigious Spring Festival release of Wandering Earth II &Full River Red. I have posted Imported vs Chinese Quality Chart some pages back &Satisfactory Rate of 2023 Chinese Releases. Also, 2023 is a ground breaking for Japanese Films. When $50M is a pipe dream we had Suzume &SLAM DUNK - doing combine of over $215M+ Fast X fall was understandable but MI7 really got stuck between insane Chinese breakout. Atleast, Wonder Family didn't break out or else MI7 was really getting off in 7-Days. If I remember GOTG3 also did well even when Antman &Black Panther didn't go well Edited August 31, 2023 by Issac Newton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borobudur Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 When is summer break over?? I can see the mid-week figure is still quite high across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Hollywood is like going back to 10 years ago where most movies did somewhere around $50M with few hit $100M. A big reason is these movies lack motion abreaction or transmissibility. Moviegoers may think Barbie / Oppenheimer are good, and that's it. Most of general audience won't go theater just because it's good, because general people have very few attention on movie itself or art. Currently, Chinese economy is pretty bad. Many youth can't have jobs or see their future. But the way it affects the film market is changing the inclination of moviegoers instead of weakening their willingness to go cinema. There has been some big hits this summer. But all of them have some themes of self-protecting. Lost in the Stars is about how women seek justice and put a sleazy man in jail. Never Say Never is saying how people from underclass society can make a living in big cities. No More Bets tells a story about anti-spoofing. They're not great ones. Far from good level like some Korean realistic stuff. But they did give local audience a space to express their mood and feeling. In public, Chinese people cannot talk about the fact that we're in a bad time under the rule of Xiburger as he strengthen control on thoughts and words. So people use different ways to release emotions and criticize person in power. In internet, we don't say, "China sucks." We say, "Korea sucks", "India sucks", "Myanmar sucks" (setting of No More Bets). And we all know which one really sucks. Another hit Creation of the Gods has no modern background story, but some people see the king in this film as Xiburger and get killed by his son and successors. Not only that. The BO hit lately have a common tone. They all are showing the negative side of the society. Given how terrible China economy is doing and there are much more society problem than government willing to admit, it is not hard to understand why these kind of "society" issue movie found their way to moviegoers, especially during summer break, where the youngster are the most affected group by economic downturn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 hours ago, The GOAT said: Noon Time. Oppenheimer Thursday $2M it should double from here for $4M+ and beat it’s $3.5M projections. 3pm $2.88M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM721 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, The GOAT said: 3pm $2.88M I am thinking if it may actually increase from yesterday total 35.7m. Current forecast has risen from 25.9m to 34.5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Regional Dominance (Final) Yesterday Actual were bad. Purple for Opp &Navy Blue for No More Bets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 16 hours ago, Issac Newton said: As per TTP Forecast, Thursday will be narrow battle - Thursday Forecast (NMB/Opp) ¥32.183M / ¥25.942M - Maoyan ¥29.014M / ¥28.803M - Taopiaopiao Maoyan Forecast a finishing line of ¥3.896B for NMB vs ¥3.906M by TPP. For Opp, TPP looking into ¥337M Final. TPP currently looking into ¥29.78M for Opp. NMB ¥28.76M. Current BO ¥22M Opp vs ¥15.9M NMB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, CM721 said: I am thinking if it may actually increase from yesterday total 35.7m. Current forecast has risen from 25.9m to 34.5m. Not sure. 2nd place is currently running at a higher pace than Oppy. 3rd place is also getting higher and higher market shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Category 3 or 4 super typhoon Saola will make a landfall on Guandong province tomorrow Sep 01, a province where Oppenheimer perform stronger than No more Bets. This could have some impact to tomorrow BO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Difference between "Oppenheimer" &"No More Bets" is lowering slowly - Government App. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...