druv10 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, jiangsen said: Usually if a film still has some gas left in the tank after 30 days, they can opt for an extension. Extensions through the film bureau are expensive though and Disney may have already lost its bargaining power once Zootopia was granted an extension earlier in the year. FB is on it's last legs while Zootopia made a good chunk after the extension. FB is at .5% shows, it's not going to add any money. This extension is pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, druv10 said: FB is on it's last legs while Zootopia made a good chunk after the extension. FB is at .5% shows, it's not going to add any money. This extension is pointless. for a fan every additional yuan / dollar / euro / rubel / pound... is not pointless. Shall I remember you the next time one of your (our) favourite films is still earning (often the same as mine, as you might be aware of ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 TGW Reviews: Quote "..capably directed but generic fantasy spectacle." - Variety Quote It's hardly a surprise that William chooses to stay even after Tovar — egged on by Ballard (Dafoe), who has been in detention at the camp for 25 years, teaching English to Lin and strategist Wang (Lau) in the process — plots to steal the treasure and leave. And while the "Westerners" are regularly shown up by the physically powerful and invariably principled Chinese warriors, it's hardly a surprise who eventually gets to save the day for China and all mankind. There's also a message, which Lin spells out when she lectures William about the importance of trust. The banality of this moral is representative of the weightlessness of nearly every aspect of the film: The characters are ciphers, the narrative is dull and even the sights and sounds become numbingly bombastic after a while. Even Damon seems to be struggling with his dialogue, which is anachronistically peppered with modern vocabulary (one character gets to say "bitch"), humor (a handful of "I heard that!" jokes), and bromantic quips between William and Tovar. And that's not to mention the sheer lack of logic in the film: Why do the Taoties only attack human beings every 60 years? Why does the army host a "crane corps," involving female soldiers bungee-jumping down the wall to lance the beasts, when there are already cannons and other artillery? And why is everybody rolling their r's when they speak? Then again, Zhang might have delivered exactly what was asked of him — a no-nonsense visual spectacle that stops at nothing in its portrayal of an imaginary, mysterious ancient culture. Or perhaps The Great Wall is simply a safety-first exercise for Zhang, Damon and their financiers in consolidating their respective first moves outside their usual terrain; it may be a landmark film for the Chinese and U.S. film industries, but it's hardly a creative breakthrough for anyone involved. - THR Pretty mixed to negative reviews so far. Do we still think this is gonna make money overseas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Thursday actuals: TGW - 48.06M/48.35M Hacksaw - 13.25M/184.9m 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) From a quick glance Great Wall seems like its on target for 100-110m today Edited December 16, 2016 by eXtacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sources who don't want to be named said TGW's budget actually went up to $150 million. How much would it need to make to be considered a success? Twice the budget? Thrice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Polaroids said: Sources who don't want to be named said TGW's budget actually went up to $150 million. How much would it need to make to be considered a success? Twice the budget? Thrice? In China, about 38% of theater gross will go back to distributor and online rights may sale more than 100M yuan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyRiggins Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I read 45 % of ticket sales for TGW, not 38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, TimmyRiggins said: I read 45 % of ticket sales for TGW, not 38. 33-35% is for local movies, imported movie only 25%. No way can any movie get over 40%. https://www.zhihu.com/question/20073704 8.5% =tax 55-57% (1-8.5%)--> theaters other cost 3-5% Production company only gets 33-36% of all theater gross. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's at 5.3 on Douban. In comparison HR has 8.8 and The Wasted Times has 7.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 5 hours ago, eXtacy said: From a quick glance Great Wall seems like its on target for 100-110m today More like 120 mill+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, fmpro said: More like 120 mill+ Must of of done monster business at night time because it wasnt that high at 4pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Friday estimates The Great Wall ¥120M/168M The Wasted Times ¥22.3M Hacksaw Ridge ¥10.7M/196M Your Name ¥3.45M /525M Suddenly Seventeen ¥2M/113.5M Moana ¥0.68M /183M BTW, Madame Bovary has been fudge to 446M already!(maybe close to 100M are fake, poor Ip Man 3) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Quite good for TGW. Should make 450m by sunday. With christmas/NY ahead I am assuming it should at least gross 800m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Rooting for Railroad Tigers to win the holiday season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) TGW PS barely up from yesterday. The multi should be a little bigger though. Small bump expected, 20% or less YN falling off harder than FB did in its third weekend and might miss $80M. DS FB Yn Day Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Fri 81 86 13 75 77 11 76 78 11 Sat 120 47.4% 206 30 114 52.9% 192 28 120 58.0% 199 29 Sun 94 -21.3% 300 44 92 -19.4% 284 41 88 -27.3% 286 42 Mon 34 -64.0% 334 49 33 -64.6% 316 46 31 -64.2% 318 46 Tues 31 -9.4% 365 54 29 -10.1% 346 50 27 -14.4% 344 50 Wed 27 -11.0% 392 57 25 -13.7% 371 54 23 -14.2% 367 53 Thur 23 -16.1% 415 61 23 -9.1% 394 57 18 -21.7% 385 56 Fri 38 65.2% -53.3% 453 66 23 0.0% -69.2% 417 60 24 34.4% -68.2% 410 59 Sat 66 73.7% -45.0% 519 76 47 105.7% -58.6% 464 67 48 100.0% -59.8% 458 66 Sun 50 -24.2% -47.0% 569 83 36 -23.7% -60.8% 500 73 34 -29.8% -61.1% 492 71 Mon 16.0 -75.8% -52.9% 585 86 10.2 -71.7% -68.7% 510 74 9.3 -72.6% -70.3% 501 73 Tue 14.5 -9.4% -52.9% 600 88 9.3 -8.8% -68.3% 520 75 7.7 -17.2% -71.3% 509 74 Wed 13.7 -5.5% -50.0% 613 90 8.1 -12.9% -68.0% 528 77 6.8 -11.7% -70.4% 516 75 Thu 12.5 -8.8% -45.7% 626 92 5.8 -28.4% -74.8% 534 77 5.2 -24.3% -71.4% 521 76 Fri 14.8 18.4% -61.1% 641 94 6.4 10.3% -72.2% 540 78 3.4 -35.0% -86.2% 524 76 Sat 34.1 130.4% -48.3% 675 99 17.0 165.6% -64.1% 557 81 Sun 27.5 -19.4% -45.0% 702 103 12.3 -27.6% -65.9% 569 83 Mon 8.7 -68.4% -45.6% 711 104 3.1 -74.8% -69.6% 572 83 Tue 9.2 5.7% -36.6% 720 106 2.8 -9.7% -69.9% 575 83 Wed 7.9 -14.1% -42.3% 728 107 2.6 -7.1% -67.9% 578 84 Thu 7.5 -5.1% -40.0% 736 108 1.6 -38.5% -72.4% 579 84 751 110.1 proj total 585 84.9 proj total 550 79.8 XR 6.82 XR 6.89 XR 6.89 Edited December 16, 2016 by POTUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Interesting analysis by CFI - "And while Zhang’s box office clout may have faded somewhat in recent years — 2014’s Coming Home grossed RMB 291 million ($46 million) in China and just $377,000 in North America — producers have fleshed out The Great Wall cast with not only a major international box office draw in Matt Damon, but also several Chinese “little fresh meats,” young male actors whose devoted followers count into the tens of millions. In an age where mobile ticketing and social media are king and young moviegoers drive box office numbers, Baidu’s online ticketing portal Nuomi has established a new feature ranking The Great Wall performers by how many tickets their self-professed fans have purchased. While far from a scientific cross-section of Chinese moviegoers, followers of Lu Han (Time Raiders, Disney’s Chinese ambassador for Star Wars) and Wang Junkai of the boyband TFBOYS have snapped up more than half of the total 150,000 tickets sold for The Great Wall on Nuomi. These two “fresh meats” far surpass the box office draw of Andy Lau, Matt Damon, and Zhang Yimou, according to the data. These numbers may bode well for a strong opening weekend boosted by hordes of devout fans, but criticism from advanced screenings points to the inclusion of all these young, untested performers as a major reason The Great Wall will have little to no staying power on Chinese screens. Moviegoers from Thursday’s advanced screenings have already loudly mocked the film online — Douban currently sits at an awful 5.8/10 — targeting their vitriol at the “fresh meats” and their complete lack of onscreen presence. Most netizen hatred and critical consensus seems to be aimed squarely at young Jing Tian (景甜), a 28-year-old actress whose biggest credit to date was the critically panned From Vegas to Macau 3. Jing reportedly commands more onscreen time than her Chinese counterparts combined but is unable to hold her own against Damon. Adding fuel to the fire, Jing is set to star in two future Legendary productions — Kong: Skull Island and Pacific Rim: Uprising — giving netizens plenty of fodder to speculate on Jing’s powerful connections. If word of mouth continues to plunge throughout the weekend, The Great Wall could very well be in for a rough ride. Right now, though, we still predict a solid opening weekend close to RMB 400 million ($58 million) bolstered by fans. In subsequent weekends, Chinese moviegoers will shun The Great Wall and it will struggle to pass RMB 1 billion ($148 million). No matter how Legendary or its new owner Wanda frame it, for all its pre-release hype The Great Wall will be a major disappointment both critically and commercially and will be another huge blow to US-China co-productions." source 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 China Box Office @ChinaBoxOffice THE GREAT WALL earned est. ¥120M ($17.2M) on Friday. China's 2-day total is ¥168M ($24.1M). @thegreatwall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Box Office: Matt Damon's 'The Great Wall' Snags Not-So-Great $24.1M China Debut - Forbes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihongkim Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Recent bad WOM films Time Raiders 4.8 on douban Box office : 478M OW [Thur 36M (preview), Fri 161M, Sat 154M, Sun 125M] 365M (2nd week) 100M (3rd week) .......... Total : 1004M Skiptrace 5.6 on douban Box office : 410M (4days OW) 324M (2nd week) 113M (3rd week) ........ Total : 889M TGW 5.3 on douban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...