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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Jurassic World OVER Avengers:AOU Club

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There is no way Jurassic World will make 2B RMB as stated by the Forbes article. Top ten imported films in China are all well established franchises with strong fan bases reaching far into the inner provinces which make up most of China's moviegoing crowd. Jurassic Park doesn't have that. I'd estimate 1.1B-1.3B at most.

But JW has a great fanbase.

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In.

 

LULZ at JP not having a fanbase in China when a 3D release of the first film grossed $56 million two years ago with a limited run,

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Feathered dinosaurs were conclusively established as a scientific fact based on fossils from China. It is China's greatest contribution to dinosaur research. I personally will be extremely disappointed if JW does well in China.

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presales aren't anything yet. what's going on with it?

Im starting to thing it will fall well short of AOU

not in

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Out.. Around 375M Domestic is where this will fall...

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Out.. Around 375M Domestic is where this will fall...

we're talking about JW China beating AOU in china, about $235m

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I guess the Jurassic franchise isn't as popular in China as some assumed?

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Presales are 2 days behind F7, give it a couple days.

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JW is basically a (semi-)family movie, not even a true adult-skewing action movie, so the whole idea of comparing its online presales  with some geek flicks like AOU sounds a bit absurd from the beginning.

 

The competition is not very encouraging but at the end of the day, it will all come down to the film's actual quality. If JW is a great  piece of  entertainment work, it will play especially strong in the run, in which case, presales do not matter. If it's awful, it would just be a much bigger version of Tomorrowland and no one could save it.

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Yeah, San Andreas had worse presales than Tomorrowland, but it beat TL in 3 days.

Edited by Kylin Zhang

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Plus, when you compare presales between AOU and F7, AOU leads by a wide margin. In the end, it's not pre-sales that count, it's actual tickets sold while the movie has its run.

I hope the promo is good enough to get people in OW, and that WOM is great and takes it from there.

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Feathered dinosaurs were conclusively established as a scientific fact based on fossils from China. It is China's greatest contribution to dinosaur research. I personally will be extremely disappointed if JW does well in China.

Sorry, buddy, new study published yesterday...

 

Most Dinosaurs Were Probably Scaly, Not Feathered

 

 

 

Anyway, this club is easy in.

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This has an excellent chance of happening so in.

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sounds like it could go either way. Competition, screen loss and the possibility it is not well received and it falls well short of 200m. Or it takes off, holds screens and beats AOU np.

 

You should have a second tier to the club JW china over JW dom. What is expectation for dom now?

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sounds like it could go either way. Competition, screen loss and the possibility it is not well received and it falls well short of 200m. Or it takes off, holds screens and beats AOU np.

 

You should have a second tier to the club JW china over JW dom. What is expectation for dom now?

 

I think most are thinking 250-300m dom. Seems unlikely that China will outgross dom unless it breaks out in a really huge way.

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I think most are thinking 250-300m dom. Seems unlikely that China will outgross dom unless it breaks out in a really huge way.

well, many here feel it could beat AOUs 235, then 250 isn't that much more of a reach if JW comes in at the low end

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well, many here feel it could beat AOUs 235, then 250 isn't that much more of a reach if JW comes in at the low end

 

Personally, I think 250 is the absolute low end of what it can do dom, but we'll see.

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