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Now I am not actually talking about the quality of the movie (even though it is atrocious) just more the fact that even if it was a great film, it would still stand out as being the odd one out in the $1B list to me.When you look at the others (ignoring quality of film):The 2 Cameron films were events that changed what people expected to see on a cinema screen. SO their totals are understood.The Avengers is an event, 5 films got made in order to make this one. It is a huge huge multi year project that has come into fruition. One could argue that it essentially had a budget of $1B Harry and LOTR were massive franchises based on super humanly popular books, so understandable.Star Wars - Doesn't even need explaining.POTC and Transformers are huge franchises, and even if the films weren't great by the end, they were well known and the general cinema audiences knew what they were getting. Pirate fights and giant robots are always going to get noticed.Toy Story 3, the final chapter of the film that created modern animation. A film for everybody and Pixar's most well known title.That just leaves the Dark Knight, which is still a sequel, it is batman and a major actor died before release (this wouldn't be worth a billion but was probably the factor that turned this from a 900M movie to a $1B.AIW however has none of the above.There are no robots or explosions.There was nothing groundbreaking in its creation.The book is well known but I would say Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Narnia is more so.It's not a sequel from a famous or well loved movie.Alice is not a superhero loved worldwide.It can't be the actor/director link up as otherwise why did CATCF only make 475M?It can't be off the back of POTC otherwise how did Dark Shadows make so little?I don't get it. I can understand bad films getting big grosses even if I do not like it, but even if this film had won the Palme D'or, seven Oscars and the Smash Hits Poll Winers Party award for best hair, I still don't see how this movie made so much.Can anybody enlighten me?

i hope so but isn't Hancock at around 625M and the opinion here seems to be that 620ish is top end.I would love it to hit top 50 (677M) but that is probably a dream.I have also realised that I am talking WW and this reply may be concerning OS.

So this is going to come very close to being Smith's most successful film outside of Independence Day?

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1) Avengers2) TDK3) Titanic4) TS3Am possibly the only person in the world not to have seen Avatar so that doesn't place.As for the others, LOTR, POTC and HP all have for me easily the weakest films of their respective series in the list.Fellowship, Black Pearl and a couple of the earlier Harry's could have made an indent on this top four but for me the POTC sequels went beyond tedium in how the stories dragged, ROTK had the whole 17 different ending mashed together to form one inglorious disaster after 8 hours of cumulative awesomeness and DH did not need to be 2 films. IT was overdrawn and needless in to many places and they were the only two potter films I didn't like.(* All the above is personal Opinion )As for the top 4. I think they are the only truly great films to reach $1B (that I have watched).I put TS3 4th because I felt it was a great film but was also a little too Oscar-y in places. It felt like a film that had aspirations of winning BP and that detracted from the awesomeness in places.3rd) Titanic. Great event, great film. And probably the 'best' film in the list but if I was handed DVDs of Titanic, TDK and TA and told I could only ever rewatch 2 of them ever again. Titanic would be the one to go as I feel it doesn't have the reviewing potential of the two above.2nd TDK, 1st TA... It was a tough decision but I just find TA to be a little more fun and as brilliant as TDK is, I am a sucker for just being entertained by what I am watching when it comes to the 3rd, 4th or 143rd viewing and I believe that by the time I die, I will have watched TA more than any of the other movies on this list.As for AIW... My eyes brain still have not forgiven me for making them endure that abomination. Whoever contributed to that gross ought to be shot even if that means I am included.

So TA sunk Universal's Battleship.(I will be amazed if that hasn't already been said in the last 14 pages but if not I am the King of Comedy!

If one ignores Avatar as it's run is just silly and ruins the fun for everybody the 2nd highest gross figures for movies from the 3rd W/E onwards are as follows: 3rd: Spider-Man Sony $45,036,912 4th: Titanic Par. $28,716,310 5th: Titanic Par. $30,011,034 6th: Titanic Par. $25,238,720 7th: Titanic Par. $25,907,172 8th: Avatar Fox $22,850,881 3.0% 3,000 $7,617 $749,766,139 12/18/09 Okay seeing as Week 8 is when Titanic overtakes Avatar, it seems a good place to stop. So when do people predict Avengers to drop out of the top two (essentially when will Titanic's Weekends overtake it (unless you believe its not making $45M this weekend). For me, it is touch and go whether it stays ahead on Weekend 5, but weekend 6 it has no chance. (of course its still going to be over $200M behind TA's total at the same point so there's more fun to be had.)

Lets be fair though add in Pluto Nash and JC will look like Avatar.

You look at that chart and even with knowing what happens, there seems no way in hell that Titanic will overtake THG or Spiderman let alone TDK. Would be interested in seeing an expanded out version of exactly what point Titanic began to refuse to die like the other films do.

I agree with this, but at the same time, outside of Avatar when was the last time a film came along that even had a 1 in 100 shot of passing $750M. I just find it insane that it still has an outside hope of passing TDK worldwide on Sunday (which is today where I am )

The film dropped 25% on Wednesday thus rendering it a total flop.He has nothing left to prove to us.

So could we be looking at over $1.5B WW by the end of this?

Don't know why its called a Donor Kebab, but in the UK it is.And in the UK you can get it as a pizza topping if you find the right place.

Number 1: Shish Kebab Number 2: Donor Kebab

My one reservation about TDKR (and I admit I do not read much about films before I watch them so not to have too much ruined) is that I wonder how similar the film will be to the one planned at the start of the trilogy.I assume that The Joker and Ledger were supposed to be a significant part of Batman 3, and with his death have they had to veer off course too much.Will the Joker get mentioned or just forgotton for the new enemy of the week type motif.

TDK is an awesome movie, but I couldn't see me taking a pre-teen son or daughter of mine to see it in the cinema, whereas I could definately see me doing that for Avengers, Spiderman, Superman.I think that is a testiment to how good the gross for TDK is as its age range for potential viewers is significantly smaller than that of the Avengers, LOTR, Harry Potter etc.*I say significantly smaller because for every 8 year old not going to see TDK there is potentially 3-4 otehr family members also not seeing it that weekend.

In seriousness are there any foreign markets with a habit of foreshadowing the US takings (proportionately of course)?Eg if a film falls 25% in Australia, 50% in the UK and 82% in Peru, is one a better measuring stick than the others or is America a unique and special flower in the BO garden?

I would have thought the bigger issue is the reverse question of what effect the next single films will have on Avengers 2.If IM3, CA2 and Thor2 are all rubbish then will people still flock to Avengers 2.Conversely if they are all amazing, could that open the way for a proper assault on Avatar (At least in the US?) and a push towards a toatl of $2B WW?

The 3D showing of Avengers on a Saturday evening was 13,000 won in Korea (I think about $14)I think non-3D is about 8,000 ($9)