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I just read all 26 pages of this thread in one sitting. Blankments, the opening for LBM is fine. It was never gonna be a tentpole. $200 million might still be in play,but if not its not the marketing. Also brace yourself,because Ninjago is going to struggle to break 100 million,much less be a big hit on par with anything put out by WDAS,Pixar or Illumination. It could do as bad as Planes. John Wick 2 is doing fantastic because the first film broke out on home media. 25 to 30+ was never a bad estimate. Even if it ends up frontloaded,it will still likely finish on par with The Accountant.It might even go past The Equalizer and truly break out. I'm stoked for this film and it is my top choice this weekend. Also,wtf Hidden Figures? That is a sick hold!
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Lowest grossing 2016 movie you've seen
GuardianDevil replied to filmlover's topic in Box Office Discussion
I am one of the saps who contributed to the gross of Yoga Hosers. Kevin Smith hasn't even released the grosses for it,but all evidence points to it being just north of $30,000. I didn't even go to the Events screening with the live QA,this was the general release. I feel bad because I made my wife and sister go too,so the three of us all contributed to that trainwreck. -
Film Piracy (opinions and box office effect)
GuardianDevil replied to That One Girl's topic in Box Office Discussion
This is all very simple. People nowadays have access. That's it. Access to high quality,Blu Ray level streams of the media they want to watch. It was bad enough when Napster allowed everyone to download music,but look at the effect that had on the music industry. If your name wasn't Beyonce or Kanye no one was paying for your actual media,just downloading it for free. Look at the grosses for movies in 2016. Everything that wasn't an event film or family film lost money against their projected grosses. The top 10 or 12 movies are the ones that made all the blockbuster money Why is that? Very simple. Going to the theatre costs money that people DON'T have to spend. Yes,families still like to get out of the house,couples still like to go to the movies on dates and event films are the kind of theatrical experiences that can't be replicated at home,BOSE sound system and 4k tvs be damned. You still have to deal with talkers,chair kickers and the back of the mind threat of potential violence. This is why theatres are upping their game. Cinemas like the Alamo Drafthouse chain have been ahead of the curve. Movie going needs to be an experience to offset piracy. Offer alcohol,food,theme nights ,leather recliners and people will still pay for the experience. There is a thing now called the Amazon Firestick. The other night I was at a friends place for a Christmas party,and the hostess offered us a movie to watch. She had a Firestick someone rigged for her. "Hey guys do you want to watch Passengers,Assassin's Creed,Sing or Office Christmas Party?" She said. Someone yelled out "Oh shit,let's watch Rogue One!" To which the hostess replied," Nah that's a movie that you need to see in theatres." This isn't going away guys. 2017 is going to be hit even harder. You are delusional if you think otherwise. -
Weekend Prediction thread 5/3-5/5 Play the Derby
GuardianDevil replied to Impact's topic in Box Office Derby
Yeah,Trolls weekend 3 isn't beating DS weekend 3 -
Yeah,I saw that. Strange to end right before Halloween weekend. There are still nine total daily showings of it in my town this week. Should have tracked it one more week.
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It would be cool to the see the dailies for Don't Breathe and Blair Witch too. Not a lot of first run choices for the Halloween movie going crowd this year.
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Weekend Numbers: Thursday Previews - INFERNO: $800k
GuardianDevil replied to Alli's topic in Numbers and Data
Young people will always lean on movies for dates,no doubt. Families will still take their kids to make them happy. Nerds (of which I count myself) will turn up for the comic,Star Wars films etc.,but this year has been eye opening to the changing landscape. If anything I think we see a push for bigger event films and small independent releases scaling back their budgets even further. It can't be denied that something is changing in viewing habits. There is simply too much competition for viewers attention. Netflix,cable,YouTube,Redbox and streaming apps come to mind. We have a few legit blockbusters coming up in Dr. Strange,Fantastic Beasts,Moana,Rogue One and Sing. Other than that I think the biggest saving grace for the other sixty or so films of 2016 is going to be worldwide box office. That may ultimately be where the studios make their money from here on out. I'm not saying the sky is falling,but a trip to the cinema is no longer something that this country relies on for its entertainment. -
Weekend Numbers: Thursday Previews - INFERNO: $800k
GuardianDevil replied to Alli's topic in Numbers and Data
2016 will go down as the year when box office became the realm of blockbusters only. This trend is going to continue. People will go see the event films,comic book movies and independent horror will be okay,and of course the big family films and Pixar tentpoles, but this is a troubling pattern. People don't want to pay to see movies anymore Look at the demise of Hollywood Video,Borders,Blockbuster and now Hastings. Even Barnes and Noble is scrambling to reinvent themselves." If you can stream it,why buy it?" is going to be the trend moving forward. -
INFERNO | 10.28.16 | Sony | final gross ● 34.34 M
GuardianDevil replied to kayumanggi's topic in Box Office Discussion
So the October crown is going to come down to Boo! and Da Vinci Code 3. October won't have a 100 million grosser. At least November has a legit hit lined up for all four weekends. Dr.S,Arrival,FB and Moana. I think it's a coin flip to see if Strange or Beasts become the first films of 2016 to cross 200 and not hit 300. Right now,I'll give Moana the November crown,but it could also do a Good Dinosaur. Too early to call. -
Weekend Thread: Peregrine: 28.5| Deep: 20.6| M7: 15.7 pg 22
GuardianDevil replied to efialtes76's topic in Numbers and Data
Saving for later? -
Honestly,its probably because it is such a tumultuous time for the country with kids getting settled into school,parents and students spending money hand over fist for all the associated costs and priorities basically being completely focused elsewhere. In a few weeks when everyone has repadded their bank accounts or started dating their fellow students weekends will mean something again. This is the dead zone for a very logical reason. Even if you don't have kids in school or need to go back to teaching etc, the studios aren't going to risk dropping big budget films when most of the population is at the football stadiums on Friday and Saturday nights.
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Tuesday#s Pets 9.2 GB 6.2 FTF 2.3 The V 1.9
GuardianDevil replied to baumer's topic in Numbers and Data
There's a couple hundred thousand people in San Diego right now that may not have time to make it to the movies this weekend,and a lot of them are the target demographic for Star Trek Beyond. If we are accounting for a few missed Ghostbuster bucks due to IMAX,expect STB to be missing a few million this weekend that it will likely make back next week.