Mayhem2x3
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I don't remember where I read it (maybe entertainment weekly, actually...) but doesn't Wreck-it-Ralph have a long development history as well? I remember an article that listed several different names it was being developed under.For NEWT to get made, it'll need another basic concept for the story besides the "last 2 of their species forced together". Newt was special to someone, and that person(s) is probably working out a new version on their own, hoping it'll get a chance again since it had been so close originally. -
He probably means from digital domain -- Legend of Trembo.http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/aug/11/digital-domains-tradition-studios-announces-film/ - vege-tales?- ozmosis jones?and the letters and numbers, you got me. A scrabble-movie adaptation?
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Most people on here don't seem interested in movies outside the top tier studios, but... http://kidscreen.com/2011/10/19/jane-startz-brings-childrens-novels-to-the-big-screen/ "Oscar-nominated screenwriter David Magee (Finding Neverland, The Life of Pi) has written the feature adaptation to Tiger’s Apprentice, the first book in a trilogy that follows the adventures of Asian-American teenager Tom Lee. " "Meanwhile, David Berenbaum (Elf, The Spiderwick Chronicles, The Haunted Mansion) has written the screenplay for Fergus Crane, which chronicles a poor 10-year old boy whose explorer father has mysteriously disappeared."
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But would you really rather they rushed originals to the point of their own detriment, or filled release schedule with sequels while the originals get developed? You (or if not you, others) seem to suggest Disney is forcing sequels and pushing back originals. How many originals sprang up in their 2000s slate that weren't started in the 90s? Up? Rat? Everything else was being written and figured out years and years before release and mostly by the top Pixar guys. Pixar is transitioning away from its original top-tier guys and they're putting out a handful of sequels with a new crop of originals filling up the slate after them. They need that development time. Frankly, Cars 2 and Brave needed more development time too (Cars 2 much more than Brave).
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Again, relevant parts in bold/underline. A lot of us like these movies, or at least like them enough and love how much our kids like them. If these movies were ALL of what was coming out, then I could get the sentiment, but they're not.
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With Rise, Frank and Ralph still coming, yeah maybe
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A symptom of WHAT though? IMO it's a symptom of growing pains at Pixar. They're losing a lot of the main people over the last few years, and we're relying on the next generation to get it done. NEWT was canceled. Cars 2 got moved up a year. I SHUDDER to think if Brave had been forced into 2011 instead. Plus their last 2 films have both needed director-changes mid-production.
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I'm not the expert on these mid-run projections, but a strong hold this weekend should make 220 the lowest Brave could do, right?
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ROFL I love it when you guys in one breath lamblast the creative teams at Pixar and Disney as sell outs and losers, no creative integrity, etc -- over ONE movie, and in the next sentence: "their next movie looks good". You probably liked Tangled too. And Toy Story 3 and Brave. "integrity" -- right
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Do you have kids? How the hell do you get off calling them the lowest common denominator? That's what I took offense to. And "FUCK MADAGASCAR AND CARS". Grow up. Move on. Cars 2 was the highest grossing animated movie last year. A LOT of people enjoy the franchise and the merchandise, even if its not nearly as good as Toy Story or Finding Nemo.
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I'm betting more kids agree with him than you.
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Pixar's last 4 movies: Up, Toy Story 3, Cars 2 and Brave. And you guys can't stop bitching about Cars 2? 1 out of the last 4 you didn't like, and it's "Fuck Madagascar and Cars" as BK put it and "Disney pandering to the lowest common denominator" and that garbage. If you're going to complain about the movie, at least try to avoid insulting the audience. And they didn't stoop nothing, damn. One of their movies finally missed that adult audience. Get over it. You don't own pixar. Again, 1 in their last 4 movies you didn't like and you still can't stop
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I guess you won't be watching Wreck-it-Ralph this winter since Disney execs are getting these things so wrong these days Seriously. Not all animated movies have to float your boat. Be glad that so many do (or I assume, otherwise you wouldn't bother being in these threads). What people that complain like you don't realize, is when attacking movies and merchandise so aggressively, you're also attacking the huge audiences that buy/love these, which is absurd. Between when my son was 2 and 5 years old we probably bought him at least 3-4 hundred $$ worth of Cars toys and clothes, and he played with them and wore them all the damn time. Cars 2 is probably my kids most re-watched movie over the last year. Can't respect the genre/medium without respecting the fact that one of the largest components FUNDING its existence is your so-called "lowest common denominator", by which I assume you mean my children
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I didn't buy how big it would help completely when you posted before because Rat was released the weekend leading up to it (unlike Brave) but I should have looked at the other holdovers from around Rat -- bet they showed the same thing
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Yes. My favorite. Offer thoughts and argumentation, only to have nothing in response to anything I wrote.
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Again, I think you're misunderstanding my point. Spiderman would have sold more tickets back then by nature of there not being home video, DVD, online streaming, etc like there is today. There's probably an actually good formula out there for adjusting movies of the past up to today, but it's not as simple as multiplying their ticket prices upward. To start, possibly a "relative to other box office grosses of its current time" as a %, or some formula adding DVD/rental/demand sales within the first year to a films BO gross.
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The context I was replying to was that someone posted adjusted numbers suggesting that animated movies don't actually make very much money these days, because if you adjust animated movies from 70 years ago, we're hardly putting a dent in them. I replied that as much as inflation boosts how much a BO gross will be, there's also many factors that decrease admissions, thus inevitably movies INCREASE over time via adjustments for ticket price inflation and never the other way around.You even reverse-adjusted Spiderman 1 to a 17million box office run?http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7LjVCj50Y
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--that's what Toy Story was in 95 as well. It didn't make 800million dollars. -- that's my point.You can't assume one variable and discount all the others that factor in (as previously mentioned/listed). Adjustments inevitably push past grosses higher today, and today grosses LOWER if you adjust to previous prices because you assume one constant that all other logic suggests would NOT remain constant.
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I don't misunderstand the idea (at least I don't think I do...).I'm saying Snow White released today would not have the same admissions it did back in 1937 and therefore break the all-time mark of Avatar and score 800M domestic. -- or re-explain the process to logically conclude it would?
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I don't care for adjusted numbers myself -- you assume that a said movie would sell the same amount of tickets at a higher price. You also ignore changing market-forces that limit total and repeat customers (shorter theatrical releases, home video, DVD, digital streaming, Demand, rental, etc) -- all of which impact attendance as well.Pieman, check out this link and watch the topic vid. It's one of the top guys on the exec side of animated films today talking about the changing market.http://forums.boxoffice.com/index.php?/topic/4016-the-illumination-entertainment-club/And I think it's 2014, but there's one year coming up with something like 14 planned wide-release animated features. Too much! Though I'm betting a good handful of them will not hit 100M
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Second tier studios have gotten better and better at picking/writing their stories (plus there are more of them than ever), and they've also also found better ways to make animation for cheaper. Bigger studios have also grown to the point of making more features. Probably more families seeing more movies every year.
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actuals put it from 40K under MAD3's same weekend to 40K above lol
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Maybe they're deciding who they want to fudge, TA to push it's run higher, or Brave, so it doesn't fall below Mad3
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It took me a second to get this lol
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It's not as well written. It's a solid follow-up to Tangled though. If I had to boil it down, I think it lacks the significant punches/beauty of the "Lanterns" scene and the "You were my new dream" scene. You misunderstand the family audience and this genre (just slightly). UP was tremendously more kid-friendly than Wall-E + it had a much more endearing love-story about Ellie and Carl. They finished just fine where they should have.
