#ED Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 This thread is all over the place, lol.Just like the X-Men movie franchise. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) The Logan/Jean "love story" is such fucking bullshit. Nothing but mild flirtation and when he made a move, she fucking shot. him. down! Never even a contest. She was Scott's. Always was. And yet we've had two films of Wolverine pining about his "lost love" with dick attention to the real guy who lost Jean. Did these people even watch the first two X-Men films?! There's audio on Youtube of Michael Dougherty (writer on X2) talking about what he and Dan Harris had planned for X3 and what they would've done differently. I keep telling people who hated The Last Stand to look it up because...well, we really missed out. Cyclops was going to be the lead. Edited July 28, 2013 by tonytr87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, Jean should be with Cyclops, but then the Cyclops character in X-Men movies is....Jean and Logan had good chemistry so I understand why they go for that, especially when Wolvie is the most popular. Except it doesn't make a lick of sense. Re-watch X1 and X2. Yes, Cyclops doesn't get much screen time, but Singer and co. made it clear that the Jean/Logan thing was merely heavy flirtation. Jean chose Scott. So no, Ratner and Mangold weren't just following what was laid out for them. They fucked it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Except it doesn't make a lick of sense. Re-watch X1 and X2. Yes, Cyclops doesn't get much screen time, but Singer and co. made it clear that the Jean/Logan thing was merely heavy flirtation. Jean chose Scott. So no, Ratner and Mangold weren't just following what was laid out for them. They fucked it up. Lol, they even made it explicitly clear when Logan admits as such at the end X2. But whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, i liked and i'm happy about cyclops death! Its nothing with Ratner, he offed cyclops, but that's not the only way he ruined the movie, there are so many horrible mistakes in X3, for example - " I'm juggernaut! Bitch!" You sound like a ten year-old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Didn't The Cyclops actor do Superman Returns instead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnerdjamie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) There's audio on Youtube of Michael Dougherty (writer on X2) talking about what he and Dan Harris had planned for X3 and what they would've done differently. I keep telling people who hated The Last Stand to look it up because...well, we really missed out. Cyclops was going to be the lead. Well... what Dougherty said wasn't what was planned for X-Men 3. But the angle he himself was pushing. Harris and Bryan Singer had their own ideas of where to take it. He was referring to his ideas. Edited July 28, 2013 by filmnerdjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 There's audio on Youtube of Michael Dougherty (writer on X2) talking about what he and Dan Harris had planned for X3 and what they would've done differently. I keep telling people who hated The Last Stand to look it up because...well, we really missed out. Cyclops was going to be the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Except it doesn't make a lick of sense. Re-watch X1 and X2. Yes, Cyclops doesn't get much screen time, but Singer and co. made it clear that the Jean/Logan thing was merely heavy flirtation. Jean chose Scott. So no, Ratner and Mangold weren't just following what was laid out for them. They fucked it up. Yeah, I know. I don't like how they went about that either, I'm also one of the supporters of Jean/Scott. But well, what can you do? We'll see, but I think they will continue the Logan/Jean angle in the X-franchise going forward Edited July 28, 2013 by Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I have seen Rth perusing this topic you know what that means? Numbers are coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 yet no Scott in DOFP ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Rth just posted that The Conjuring looks to drop only 7% on 2nd weekend in Australia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You can't repeat that kind of business twice. $400M is locked, I'd say. Nothing past that. Says whoo? James cameron proves you can.. He eclisped the unbreakable movie by a movie with his very next one... LOTR did it multiple times and kept increasing. Im3 made almost double what IM did at the boxoffice. 450M is a lock for Avengers domestically for it to increase it will need some really good story telling and enough new wow factors to generate big business again. It could decrease, but if any film can make 600+M Domestic again and even more worldwide its the Avengers , same applies to a great film done with Superman and Batman. . When Juggernaut 2015 surpasses Juggernaut 2009, that will be an extreme example that a well done money can have no limits!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnerdjamie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Says whoo? James cameron proves you can.. He eclisped the unbreakable movie by a movie with his very next one... LOTR did it multiple times and kept increasing. Im3 made almost double what IM did at the boxoffice. 450M is a lock for Avengers domestically for it to increase it will need some really good story telling and enough new wow factors to generate big business again. It could decrease, but if any film can make 600+M Domestic again and even more worldwide its the Avengers , same applies to a great film done with Superman and Batman. . When Juggernaut 2015 surpasses Juggernaut 2009, that will be an extreme example that a well done money can have no limits!! You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Couldn't be more obvious by your posts. Edited July 28, 2013 by filmnerdjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saw Wolverine earlier today, didn't like it. My confidence in FOX delivering a good DOFP movie is in the toilet. D-/D is my grade just a bit better than Origins but not a heck of a lot. Severely disappointed in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saw Wolverine earlier today, didn't like it. My confidence in FOX delivering a good DOFP movie is in the toilet. D-/D is my grade just a bit better than Origins but not a heck of a lot. Severely disappointed in it. Don't believe in the studio. Believe in Singer! A man capable of delivering X2 can bring something special. Pay no attention to Superman Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saw Wolverine earlier today, didn't like it. My confidence in FOX delivering a good DOFP movie is in the toilet. D-/D is my grade just a bit better than Origins but not a heck of a lot. Severely disappointed in it. Aw, you didn't like it But how about the mid-credit scene, that's got to excite you somewhat? Don't believe in the studio. Believe in Singer! A man capable of delivering X2 can bring something special. Pay no attention to Superman Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Well... what Dougherty said wasn't what was planned for X-Men 3. But the angle he himself was pushing. Harris and Bryan Singer had their own ideas of where to take it. He was referring to his ideas. They were mostly his ideas, but he, Harris, or Singer never said they weren't going to be incorporated. Edited July 28, 2013 by tonytr87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnerdjamie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 They were mostly his ideas, but he, Harris, or Singer never said they weren't going to be incorporated. He specifically said they were his ideas and that Harris and Singer had their own ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
