75Live Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, DAJK said: I don't understand the hate for the recent new ST films. it's not hate. I saw both in the theater, just nothing special about them. Very forgettable and generic flicks, so it shouldn't be hard to be better than those. Plus they basically had the same story in both films. Of course, this is all just relates to me. I don't expect anyone to think my way or try to sway them to my side like some people do If people love them, cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 hours ago, grim22 said: Trek is returning to TV, i'm so excited!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Trek 2009 is about as good as TFA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Elessar said: Trek is returning to TV, i'm so excited!!! Does this mean they just don't have enough faith in the film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, DAJK said: Does this mean they just don't have enough faith in the film? I don't think so. One is Paramount, the other CBS. Shows and movies have existed in parallel before. The more Trek, the merrier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The first two JJ's Star Trek movies, visual effects were almost all done by ILM. For this movie, ILM is nowhere to be found. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, The Futurist said: The first two JJ's Star Trek movies, visual effects were almost all done by ILM. For this movie, ILM is nowhere to be found. MMMMMMM didn't know that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, The Futurist said: The first two JJ's Star Trek movies, visual effects were almost all done by ILM. For this movie, ILM is nowhere to be found. Budget cuts had to come from somewhere besides moving locations. Budget is reported at $150m, down $40m from Into The Darkness and about the same as the first. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/summer-box-office-bombs-studios-619389 Quote Paramount also will look to save money on another Star Trek -- a franchise, but not quite in the top tier. This summer's $190 million production Star Trek Into Darkness has earned over $462 million worldwide; its international haul has exceeded expectations at $234 million, but domestically, its $228.5 million hasn't matched the first film. Whereas the first two were shot in L.A., the next will be filmed in a more tax-friendly location. "We're making it for what it should have been shot for last time if we had made it outside of L.A., which we would have done except that [director J.J. Abrams] didn't want to," says a studio source. "That was a $20 million issue." (Abrams, busy with Star Wars, is unavailable for the third Trek.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Make no mistakes though visual effects have come a long way and dozens of companies are capable of doing stupendous work. The old days when ILM and Weta (Digital Domain before they went bankrupt) were the kings is long gone. Plus all the visual effects companies use the same softwares and middle-wares. RenderMan, the rendering software created by Ed Catmull & John Lasseter in the 80's is still used to this day (updated of course) in all the biggest visual effects companies. Same for Massive (Weta Digital) which is still the software king for CGI crowds. etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The Futurist said: Plus all the visual effects companies use the same softwares and middle-wares. Most of them write a lot of their own custom code for things, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Elessar said: Trek 2009 is about as good as TFA. Yeah... They're actually really close in terms of qualify. Into Darkness sucks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, Telemachos said: Most of them write a lot of their own custom code for things, though. Of course and the big ones do a lot of R&D and create their own softwares they sell afterwards to competitors. Every visual effects company probably own Massive for example. Iloura did thier CGI crowd for Fury Road with Massive for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Elessar said: Trek 2009 is about as good as TFA. I think it's better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Whatever you think about the JJ's Star Trek movies, production values and designs, special and visual effects were top notch. Beautiful movies to look at IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviesRus Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Star Trek 2009 remade A New Hope before The Force Awakens did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, moviesRus said: Star Trek 2009 remade A New Hope before The Force Awakens did. The very long making of Star Trek'09 on the Blu Ray is hilarious. JJ can't stop talking about Star Wars in this, I think he s demented. Star Wars this, Star Wars that ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said: Yeah... They're actually really close in terms of qualify. Into Darkness sucks though I never got this complaint, do you mind elaborating why it sucks? I thought it was just as entertaining as the first. Maybe it's because I was never a fan of Star Trek? I've heard the fans of the franchise are the ones who truly hate the new movies, but I have no idea why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Reynolds Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Pegg is promoting Friday on twitter, so trailer will likely be out after fan event and in theaters during Holiday weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said: Pegg is promoting Friday on twitter, so trailer will likely be out after fan event and in theaters during Holiday weekend It's about time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 That trailer will have so much riding on it after that first trailer, the pressure must be insane. I can only imagine how nervous everyone involved with this movie is about the fans' reaction to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
