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[Neo]

Alien was more successful than Aliens and The Terminator wasn't a huge boxoffice hit, Terminator 2 had nowhere to go but up.

No it wasn't. You don't increase 425%+ because you had nowhere to go but up.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

Adjusted, [mod edit].

Heisenberg  is mad. 

Edited August 2, 2013 by Neo

[Kalel009Shel]

Stop saying shit and learn to read (for once):

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=alien.htm

 

Alien: 78M DOM - 104 WW

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=aliens.htm

 

Aliens: 85M DOM - 131M WW

Thank you adjusted Aliens is the biggest alien of the whole saga by far.

[Herr Mike]

Yeah what happed to that James Cameron.

[The Futurist]

Poor Bryan Cranston, his name is soiled now.

[dashrendar44]

Adjusted, [mod edit].

 

Yeah that's the only thing you found, the "adjusted argument" strawman that you [mod edit].

Edited August 2, 2013 by Neo

[Kalel009Shel]

I'd be a little more interested in an Avatar sequel if there was just one. I don't give a shit about Jake Sully and the female-whose-name-I-can't-remember nearly enough to follow them for another whole trilogy.

Thankfully Hate box millions up millions dont share that settlement lol..Expect 3B to 4B+ or much for the sequel

[Ozymandias]

No it wasn't. You don't increase 425%+ because you had nowhere to go but up.

 

You're using Terminator 2 as a comparison for Avatar 2, which just doesn't work.  The Terminator wasn't a big boxoffice hit(unlike Avatar).  And yes, Terminator 2 had nowhere to go but up by a considerable amount, it had a huge budget(biggest at the time) and Arnold Schwarzenegger's and James Cameron's star power had grown a lot since then.  The fact that Terminator 2 is widely considered a better movie helped a lot to.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Shpongle

[Ozymandias]

Yeah that's the only thing you found, the "adjusted argument" strawman that you pull out of your ass when convenient, dimwit.

 

I've seen you argue attendance > money a lot.  So please, stop breaking my irony meter.

[Herr Mike]

T1 kicks the shit out of T2. It's just badass beginning to end.

[Neo]

You're using Terminator 2 as a comparison for Avatar 2, which just doesn't work.  The Terminator wasn't a big boxoffice hit(unlike Avatar).  And yes, Terminator has nowhere to go but up by a considerable amount, it had a huge budget(biggest at the time) and Arnold Schwarzenegger's and James Cameron's star power had grown a lot since then.  The fact that Terminator 2 is widely considered a better movie helped a lot to.

And you know what A2 won't be a better movie. Still works looking at multi's.

[Neo]

Mod Alert: Lets argue without insulting each other.

[ChD]

Only me thinking that Avatar 2 won't gross as much as the first? I mean the first one was very hyped because of being the first 3D movie and people mostly went to watch it because of that, not because they wanted to see it for what it was. So, until all people really loved Avatar 1, I don't see an increase very possible, at least not DOM.

[Kalel009Shel]

Look at STAR WARS and EMPIRE... probably our best comparison right now (domestically, at least). You have the original: a juggernaut of a movie that set new visual standards and shattered box-office records, and was a science-fiction film that got nominated for a bunch of Oscars, including Best Picture. You have a collection of characters that people fell in love with. You have a new and exciting universe that people wanted to see more of.

 

And then EMPIRE comes out and -- in many ways -- is superior to the first film. Yet despite that, it fell 30%+ in terms of gross. There's only so many mountains out there, not every single one is gonna be Mt. Everest, *especially* if it's a sequel.

True but in all fairness Lucas is no James Cameron is creatic epics that draw in domestic and OS audiences consistently, Cameron my friend has consistently done in totally different genres. If he can make people watch a overdone story and it becomes the most popular one run king of them all , then speed fwd and the same  man makes the world care to to see a film about a  paraplegic jumping into a blue cat body and an alien world that haters deemed fern gully and would flop into a near 3B worldwind thats takes you as far away from the real world  experiential tech. WHat will he do when he improves the tech further, ads even better story and music and shows even more amazing parts of Pandora and even new Moons and locations.

 

If he can do what he did with Titanic an now Avatar(A Bizarre Tour De Force of imagination and technical mastery, then James can truly do anything!!)  This film as it stands is a near 2billion+ WW lock, now what happens if everyone comes backs and see this film even more times..

 

May go well beyond Neo and myself prediction easily Telemachos. I dont see this one making less than Avatar WW..

[Kvikk Lunsj]

Only me thinking that Avatar 2 won't gross as much as the first? I mean the first one was very hyped because of being the first 3D movie and people mostly went to watch it because of that, not because they wanted to see it for what it was. So, until all people really loved Avatar 1, I don't see an increase very possible, at least not DOM.

Agreed IDK why people think it is going to increase. I am thinking 600m. 

[Kalel009Shel]

Only me thinking that Avatar 2 won't gross as much as the first? I mean the first one was very hyped because of being the first 3D movie and people mostly went to watch it because of that, not because they wanted to see it for what it was. So, until all people really loved Avatar 1, I don't see an increase very possible, at least not DOM.

Hi Chd . Avatar wasjnt the first 3D movie, there have been many...Avatar is the first film that triggered Sense memory in a real  sense where folks feel like they did leave our planet in many cases and enter a whole new world. To think Cameron wont push the envelope further with new tech and improvements in story and trippy  jaw dropping visuals and other things is not logical.

 

If Cameron didnt have the unbeatable Titanic and then beat Titanic with his very next film, then those ANH vs ESB comparisons would have merit.. In Cameron's case the rules do not apply..

[Kalel009Shel]

Agreed IDK why people think it is going to increase. I am thinking 600m. 

More like 700-1Bil domestic you mean.. Avatars mulit wont be the typical blockbusters and Part 2 will open between 150-200M in december or better!! lol

[Kalel009Shel]

T1 kicks the shit out of T2. It's just badass beginning to end.

You must be one of the very few percent of people that would ever make a statement like that lol. But glad your opinion isnt shared by any moviegoer that likes quality films. :dunce:

[Kalel009Shel]

Avatar 2: The Sky People Strike Back

Avatar 3: The Return of Toruk'Matou!

 

Still surpasses Harry Potter by Movie 2 or movie 3  and HP needed 9 movies to make 7B lol

[Herr Mike]

You must be one of the very few percent of people that would ever make a statement like that lol. But glad your opinion isnt shared by any moviegoer that likes quality films. :dunce:

 

yeah, minority or no, I'll take "You're terminated, fucker" over John Conner's incessant squawking and balling.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Herr Mike