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[ChD]

Everything about making storytelling movies is fiction you know. Even Apollo 13 taking liberties with reality (so fictional in parts) and yet not called a science fiction movie.

 

But people are using different denominations for movies that have the same settings and display the same technology. That's what people are bickering about. Everything that appears in Gravity do exist in our reality and is performed in our present day. The only thing that is fiction is " Shuttle dysfunction, debris, astronauts drifting" but the premise is nothing "science fictioney".

 

When a movie that features present day technology and science as a backdrop would not be considered a science fiction movie then? In 50 years, in 100 years?

 

So a movie featuring Iphone 5 is scifi?

 

Yeah, I get your arguments, but Apollo 13 is based off a book. Even if the movie takes liberties, the original source of the story, the Apollo 13 incident (well, it's actually based off of a book, but the book is based off that) which means it's not fiction.

 

Also, it's not because what technology there is in the movie. Science Fiction is about the setting, too. The freaking Science Fiction definition mentions that everything set in space is considered Science Fiction (Apollo isn't because it's not Fiction).

 

I stand to my point. Gravity is a Science Fiction, no matter what. It might not have that advanced technology or whatever, but the setting makes it a Science Fiction so that's that.

Edited September 7, 2013 by ChD

[Bond Bug]

Everything about making storytelling movies is fiction you know. Even Apollo 13 taking liberties with reality (so fictional in parts) and yet not called a science fiction movie.

 

But people are using different denominations for movies that have the same settings and display the same technology. That's what people are bickering about. Everything that appears in Gravity do exist in our reality and is performed in our present day. The only thing that is fiction is " Shuttle dysfunction, debris, astronauts drifting" but the premise is nothing "science fictioney".

 

When a movie that features present day technology and science as a backdrop would not be considered a science fiction movie then? In 50 years, in 100 years?

 

So a movie featuring Iphone 5 is scifi?

 

Okay, so if everything is fiction in the movies, when you used the example of movie with a dog in space, that would be science fiction too.

[dashrendar44]

'B' is science fiction, and 'A' is science fact. What is your problem?

 

That's stupid if something is scifi or not because of an irrelevant detail even if the science/technology displayed and settings is exactly the same.

 

Both are fictions. So they're both scifi in movies definition.

 

Edit: Ok we agree.

Edited September 7, 2013 by dashrendar44

[Elessar]

I love all of this, but Gravity is sci-fi because by definition, everything that has space travel is sci-fi. I will just leave this thread now. I will come back after seeing the movie on October.

 

THIS IS MADNESS!!!

 

Seriously, how can someone be so dense...

 

Sci-fi is real!!! We have astronauts after all... *lol*

Edited September 7, 2013 by Elessar

[vc2002]

There's only one way to end this discussion: does Alfonso Cuaron consider this a sci-fi or not. Some one call him please.

Edited September 7, 2013 by vc2002

[Bond Bug]

THIS IS MADNESS!!!

 

Seriously, how can someone be so dense...

 

Sci-fi is real!!! We have astronauts after all... *lol*

I think you should apologize to Cjohn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science%20fiction Definition of SCIENCE FICTION

: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component

[Elessar]

It's called Science FICTION for a reason, y'know? 

 

Yes, fictional science. Where is the fictional science in Gravity? WHERE?!?!?! 

[Elessar]

I think you should apologize to Cjohn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science%20fiction Definition of SCIENCE FICTION

: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component

 

 

No. He keeps harping on "you feature space travel, you are sci-fi" nonsense. By that definition, we are living the sci-fi dream RIGHT NOW.

 

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

Edited September 7, 2013 by Elessar

[A Marvel Fanboy]

No. He keeps harping on "you feature space travel, you are sci-fi" nonsense. By that definition, we are living the sci-fi dream RIGHT NOW.

 

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

Lol ... that setting alone, and well enough, makes it a sci-fi movie.

[Elessar]

Bullshit! We have people in space RIGHT NOW! There is nothing sci-fi about it.

Edited September 7, 2013 by Elessar

[A Marvel Fanboy]

I think you should apologize to Cjohn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science%20fiction Definition of SCIENCE FICTION

: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component

 

Not sci-fi with actual science, according to some of our friends on this board ... lol ... they singly rewrited the definition of SCI-FI.

[ChD]

No. He keeps harping on "you feature space travel, you are sci-fi" nonsense. By that definition, we are living the sci-fi dream RIGHT NOW.

 

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

 

It deals with the Kessler Syndrome so that would make it about science...

Edited September 7, 2013 by ChD

[dashrendar44]

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

 

 

Exactly, it is as much about science that Jaws was about oceanography because there is an ocean and a big fish. It's a thriller set in today's space. It's science fiction for people because it just features space and an imaginary accident involving satellites debris in it.

Edited September 7, 2013 by dashrendar44

[A Marvel Fanboy]

 

 http://www.merriam-w...science fiction Definition of SCIENCE FICTION

: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component

 

 

Gravity deals principally with the impact of actual science on individuals and having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component. So yeah, it fits sc-fi perfectly. Hard Sci-Fi.

Edited September 7, 2013 by firedeep

[Bond Bug]

No. He keeps harping on "you feature space travel, you are sci-fi" nonsense. By that definition, we are living the sci-fi dream RIGHT NOW.

 

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

The dictionary definition stated: "fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component."

 

Gravity is a fiction (an imaginary plot that involved things going wrong) dealing with the impact of actual science (shuttle and space walking) on individuals (the Clooney and Bullock characters). And certainly it has a scientific factor as an essential orientating component.

 

As for Cjohn's comment, he is right (space travel is a science and provides an essential orientating component in space travel movies). Therefore, the dictionary definition is in agreement with what he says. Why then, is it necessary for you to be offensive to him? Do you want to insult the authors of the Merriam-Webster dictionary too?

[dashrendar44]

The Right Stuff deals principally with the impact of actual science on individuals and having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component. So yeah, it fits sc-fi perfectly. Hard Sci-Fi.

 

Oh wait...The Right Stuff is absolutely not considered scifi even if it fits the bill perfectly...

[ChD]

Oh wait...The Right Stuff is absolutely not considered scifi even if it fits the bill perfectly...

 

Actually yeah... It's not fiction.

 

People who enjoy science fiction are often faced with unpleasant surprises due to the improper labelling of novels, stories, comic books or movies. Often science fiction aficionados find material, previously labelled as science fiction, to be pure fantasy or supernatural horror, or rather simple techno-thriller. In such cases, mistakes are understandable - genre boundaries are never clearly marked. But, I believe there are really few cases when a movie labelled as science fiction actually happens to be straight historical epic. Such thing occurred in former Yugoslavia some fifteen years ago, when national distributors gave such treatment to THE RIGHT STUFF, 1983 film directed by Philip Kaufman.

 

The mistake of the distributors could be explained with the fact that the official poster of the film features men in space suits. But THE RIGHT STUFF film isn't even fiction. It was based on the non-fiction book by Tom Wolfe, covering the early years of American space program.

Edited September 7, 2013 by ChD

[Neo]

No. He keeps harping on "you feature space travel, you are sci-fi" nonsense. By that definition, we are living the sci-fi dream RIGHT NOW.

 

Btw, Gravity is not about science. Space just happens to be the setting.

Blade Runner, D9, Inception, Riddick are these sci-fi? Where is the science in these movies?

[dashrendar44]

Not fiction.

 

Not documentary.

 

Romanced fiction based on real people. But fiction nonetheless.

[Jack Nevada]

Oh for christ's sake people! FUCK!