Empire Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I can already tell a difference today. Is it a 20% drop difference? Who knows. I'll provide some numbers later. Your theater was a great indicator for this weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I can already tell a difference today. Is it a 20% drop difference? Who knows. I'll provide some numbers later. That's good to hear, at least for your market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I can already tell a difference today. Is it a 20% drop difference? Who knows. I'll provide some numbers later. Your area was particularly hard hit yesterday thanks to the Spurs, I would be more shocked if there was no difference actually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) This is a bad post. SM1 played on 7,500 screens compared to probably 15,000 for TA2. It didn't have IMAX, 3D, or 13 years of inflation. I think admissions are the only real way to know just how much of a cultural zeitgeist occurred on each of these weekends. Hollywood uses inflation and other gimmicks to keep bragging about new records in the domestic market and yet pretty much every other country in the world requires admissions to be reported. I agree with this. I find it extremely frustrating that admissions aren't at least regularly reported along with the gross and Hollywood should have been called out ages ago on this. It's such a cheap tactic and apparently it works with all the 'of all time' you regularly read here. And even then, % of total population represented by admissions should be taken into account. Edited May 3, 2015 by Cynosure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Good or bad? I'm sure its good. Yesterday was a flat out disaster. Couldn't get any worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Your area was particularly hard hit yesterday thanks to the Spurs, I would be more shocked if there was no difference actually Well the same should be said for L.A. then yes? We crashed and burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart360 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 This is a bad post. SM1 played on 7,500 screens compared to probably 15,000 for TA2. It didn't have IMAX, 3D, or 13 years of inflation. I think admissions are the only real way to know just how much of a cultural zeitgeist occurred on each of these weekends. Hollywood uses inflation and other gimmicks to keep bragging about new records in the domestic market and yet pretty much every other country in the world requires admissions to be reported. Its not a bad post because its all guess work with admissions, there are so many variables like 3D, 3D percentage, Imax, matinees, child tickets, and more that i have probably forgotten. And thats not even taking into account how different things are between different eras. If we go down that route then we may as well shut the forum down because nothing is ever going to beat Gone With The Wind and Star Wars with their countless re releases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted May 3, 2015 Community Manager Share Posted May 3, 2015 I feel like this needs to be stickied somewhere, I've lost count of how many times I've reiterated this. I looked at total tickets sold. I didn't actually "adjust" to 2015. And anyways, the movie Noctis is really comparing this to (the last Harry Potter) was released in 2011-after the date range you put forth. It's all speculation anyways. We have no idea how a movie would have done if it was even moved by a weekend. Would Age of Ultron opened higher had it switched places with Furious 7? That's speculation. Move it to a whole other year and who knows? Sure you can point to IMAX and 3D but it's important to note why these have become more important: theater attendance in general has been falling and those measures have helped recoup some of the lost money. That and inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pensivepenguin Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm sure its good. Yesterday was a flat out disaster. Couldn't get any worse. But will it be good enough to get some consolation from the disaster that was last night's numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Its not a bad post because its all guess work with admissions, there are so many variables like 3D, 3D percentage, Imax, matinees, child tickets, and more that i have probably forgotten. And thats not even taking into account how different things are between different eras. If we go down that route then we may as well shut the forum down because nothing is ever going to beat Gone With The Wind and Star Wars with their countless re releases. We don't have to shut down the forum but it would be nice to have the real attendance numbers. Reporting attendance has not hurt the discussion on International box office one bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I have now changed my username to DAWN OF BKB in honor of TA2 falling below my prediction.. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to throw up.. Avatar>Avengers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 But will it be good enough to get some consolation from the disaster that was last night's numbers? :qotd:That is the question of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Would Age of Ultron opened higher had it switched places with Furious 7? That's speculation. That's a good point. Furious 7 kind of got the whole "First big blockbuster of the year" bump which Cap 2 had last year. It also got into the zeitgeist in a big way. Wouldn't affect most moviegoers but mainly those who go to the movies once or twice a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I was kidding, lol I know you were but about Anaheim is the baby brother of LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) I looked at total tickets sold. I didn't actually "adjust" to 2015. And anyways, the movie Noctis is really comparing this to (the last Harry Potter) was released in 2011-after the date range you put forth. It's all speculation anyways. We have no idea how a movie would have done if it was even moved by a weekend. Would Age of Ultron opened higher had it switched places with Furious 7? That's speculation. Move it to a whole other year and who knows? Sure you can point to IMAX and 3D but it's important to note why these have become more important: theater attendance in general has been falling and those measures have helped recoup some of the lost money. That and inflation. It's not like inflation only affects ticket prices. Production and marketing budgets as well as salaries for the actors have massively increased and probably faster than inflation. So it doesn't help recoup some of the money at all. Edited May 3, 2015 by Cynosure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 We don't have to shut down the forum but it would be nice to have the real attendance numbers. Reporting attendance has not hurt the discussion on International box office one bit. They seem to have actual attendance #'s at best DOM are guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Why do we keep bringing Potter up? It's going to gross more than any of the Potter movies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I know you were but about Anaheim is the baby brother of LA. More like ugly step brother. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I looked at total tickets sold. I didn't actually "adjust" to 2015. That is the point Spizzer is making. The inflation chart does not accurately account for 3D or IMAX. Brandon Gray himself, the guy that actually ran BOM at the time, wrote an article about Avatar's ticket sales that is a long way off (much lower) from what that chart will show you when you look at it. This is because Avatar had 80% of its tickets sold in 3D and the chart doesn't account for that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I looked at total tickets sold. I didn't actually "adjust" to 2015. It's the same thing. BOM has two pieces of data: how much money the films take in at the time of their release and the average ticket price at that time. They use that to come up with an estimate number of tickets sold. Then, when the average ticket price changes, they use those estimated tickets to come up with an adjusted value. The average ticket price doesn't account for what sort of premium formats the film does or does not have. So here in the 3D era, films that are in 2D are likely under-reported on tickets sold and those in 3D are over-reported. (IMAX has an effect, too, but generally the specific IMAX hauls are noted somewhere, so we can take those out of the equation more easily.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
