Weekend Estimates : BVS 52.39M | Zootopia 20M | Wedding 11.13M | God's Not Dead 8.1M | Sun Rth - Bvs 12 or 14.2, Zoo 5.3, MBFGW2 2.8, GND2 2

[Nova]

1 minute ago, excel1 said:

 

Get him the hell out of here before he damages a brand other than his own!

 

Batfleck needs to #Summon@Excel1 and the next film will AMAZING

Remember when you had Batman v Superman with a 95% rating on RT? 

[TalismanRing]

26 minutes ago, forg said:

Good numbers for Zootopia and My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2. I think having Miracles of Heaven hurt God's Not Dead 2

 

I think more choice in the Christian Film genre with other movies that while not critically acclaimed were not critically lambasted hurt it. 

[Lordmandeep]

Rotten Tomatoes is at 302 reviews.... and....

 

 

 

Beats TF2 Long standing record of 196 Rotten Reviews

[eddyxx]

7 hours ago, SWXII said:

Who directed Spiderman (2002)? Get that person.

My rankings of best cbm's of all time...

 

1. The Dark Knight

2. Batman v Superman

3. Spiderman (2002)

 

Then all the rest tied for last place.

I don't know if I should be more disgusted by the fact that you don't know who Sam Raimi is or that you ranked BvS over Spider-Man

[Last Man Standing]

2 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

I would argue the BVS script was actually much better than the MOS script. Both films have the same problem. Snyder makes collections of scenes, not full films. The tone and pacing is always off, regardless of script.

 

Pretty much any problem storywise with BVS is explained in the film the movie is edited in such a way that nothing is clear just confusing.

I don't agree at all. MoS basically makes sense. Zod needs Superman and Earth to maintain his species, Superman opposes him for obvious reasons. The BvS script is really unclear in comparison, the motivations of all characters are muddled and none of them act in a rational way.

[jedieb]

27 minutes ago, Bishop54 said:

You were a good sport about it, it was all in good fun. 

Don't have to apologize to me. I'm one of those that thinks the critical reception for BvS was pretty spot on. I've got my share of problems with it. But it definitely has its moments and I've got to see that extended cut.

 

5 minutes ago, vc2002 said:

Are we actually seeing worse legs than Batman and Robin?

 

Batman and Robin

OW: 42m

DOM: 107m (2.54x mutiplier)

 

BvS

OW: 166m

DOM: 350m (2.1x)  (or it most likely will go lower than that)

 

To be fair, BvS will most likely have worse legs than BaR, but that film was a train wreck that killed the series. It's lone redeeming quality is that it led to Nolan and BB. And it's easier to have legs when your OW is only 42M.

[SWXII]

23 minutes ago, forg said:

Good numbers for Zootopia and My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2. I think having Miracles of Heaven hurt God's Not Dead 2

 

GND 2 is already profitable. 

 

Looks like in the future the studios will mostly have their mega franchises.

 

Christian films are still a work in progress but will rarely lose money and occasionally will have a moderate break out like War Room. 

 

[Ozymandias]

so what kind of sat number expecting?  20-21m?

[Dementeleus]

Just now, Ozymandias said:

so what kind of sat number expecting?  20-21m?

 

Anywhere from 19-22m, I think. 20-21m seems most likely. 

[SWXII]

4 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

I don't know if I should be more disgusted by the fact that you don't know who Sam Raimi is or that you ranked BvS over Spider-Man

 

Heh.

 

I forgot about a cbm. I rank all the other comic movies as tied for last. But there is one that ranks lower than last place.......

 

 

[jedieb]

10 minutes ago, Last Man Standing said:

I don't agree at all. MoS basically makes sense. Zod needs Superman and Earth to maintain his species, Superman opposes him for obvious reasons. The BvS script is really unclear in comparison, the motivations of all characters are muddled and none of them act in a rational way.

While I think BvS has higher peaks that MoS, MoS is more consistent. It's a more solid film IMO. And Shannon is great. He was a compelling antagonist and you completely understood his motivations. I actually felt some sympathy for him after the World Builder was destroyed. Kal really did rob him of his sole purpose. The purpose he was genetically engineered to fulfill. Shannon's Zod never had the choices that Kal did. And BvS has a hulked out grey ninja turtle and Troll Luthor.... 

Edited April 3, 2016 by jedieb

[Chewy]

Didn't find the movie confusing, just super tedious. No propulsion. Not sure how 30 extra minutes fixes that

[Ozymandias]

11 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

Rotten Tomatoes is at 302 reviews.... and....

 

 

 

Beats TF2 Long standing record of 196 Rotten Reviews

 

[Jack Nevada]

I wonder when the Contrarian Film Douche "Well actually BvS is a masterpiece, you idiots just didn't get it" thing starts. 

[Nova]

2 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

 

Instead of a superhero landing for Batman v Superman, it's a superhero drop. 

[Dementeleus]

6 minutes ago, SWXII said:

 

Heh.

 

I forgot about a cbm. I rank all the other comic movies as tied for last. But there is one that ranks lower than last place.......

 

 

 

I liked DICK TRACY. It *is* a CBM from a different era, though. 

[somebody85]

10 hours ago, TimmyRiggins said:

The truth is, any defenders here are being told to f off basically. It's an interesting social experiment though, everyone's true colors are showing and it's pretty ugly. To those asking why I or other people who like the film care so much? You might say it's just a film, but seeing such vehement hate and negativity directed against the film ever since the beginning, well, for a fan, it's kind of saddening, granted, it's "just" a film but it's tiring, and repetitive, and predictable. 

You realize there was so much negativity directed towards the film because it looked bad right? Not because it was DC. Or because Marvel fans wanted it to fail. There was a lot of doubt about this film because it looked like a bad movie. That's it. Nothing else.

It looked like a mess from that "Doomsday" trailer and it ended up being exactly that.

I understand some people liked it...but the numbers are indicating a lot more didn't. 

You think everyone wanted to see a movie that had Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Lex Luthor in it to be a disaster? No we wanted it to be good and live up to those characters. But there were so many early signs stating that it wasn't and the mega fans chose to ignore ALL OF THEM and direct the hate at who was making them, because "Oh that possibly couldn't be true! We have Ben Affleck and Chris Terrio now remember? He's an Oscar Winning script writer and this is going to be an amazing movie that critics appreciate because they love Ben Affleck remember? The Trinity would get everyone to show up, remember? If Deadpool can do what it did as a R rated movie with no 3D well this will clear a billion easily and you're insane if you think otherwise, remember?"

This thread is kind of like a big "We told you so". 

 

Edited April 3, 2016 by somebody85

[CJohn]

Deadpool is touching himself tonight. 

[Last Man Standing]

22 minutes ago, jedieb said:

While I think BvS has higher peaks that MoS, MoS is more consistent. It's a more solid film IMO. And Shannon is great. He was a compelling antagonist and you completely understood his motivations. I actually felt some sympathy for him after the World Builder was destroyed. Kal really did rob him of his sole purpose. The purpose he was genetically engineered to fulfill. Shannon's Zod never had the choices that Kal did. And BvS has a hulked out grey ninja turtle and Troll Luthor.... 

I think MoS had higher peaks too, Supes flying for the first time, Krypton, basically every time Zod was on-screen. It was a solid movie that suffered from three big problems:

 

1) Snyder is bad at directing likable, relatable characters so it's hard for the viewer to root for Superman.

2) The pacing really felt off-kilter, with way too many flashbacks.

3) It ended on a downbeat, with Superman bawling like a baby after killing a dude (yeah there's a little tacked-on scene after but most people won't remember it).

 

[eddyxx]

7 hours ago, filmscholar said:

Disastrious Drop.  No spinning it.   With all that said this movie wasn't for all the marbles.  It's point was to be a Sequel to "Man Of Steel", Reboot Batman and Introduce the Justice League to set off the universe.   If that was the goal then I felt it did that.  Now yes the critical response is obviously shaky and but the audience response seems to be probably mixed.  When you look at DC Comic Adaptiation it's still going to rank inside the Top 5 when this is all said and done:

 

1	The Dark Knight	WB	$533,345,358	4,366	$158,411,483	4,366	7/18/08
2	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$448,139,099	4,404	$160,887,295	4,404	7/20/12
3	Man of Steel	WB	$291,045,518	4,207	$116,619,362	4,207	6/14/13
4	Batman	WB	$251,188,924	2,201	$40,489,746	2,194	6/23/89
5	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	WB	$224,422,793	4,256	$166,007,347	4,242	3/25/16
6	Batman Begins	WB	$205,343,774	3,858	$48,745,440	3,858	6/15/05
7	Superman Returns	WB	$200,081,192	4,065	$52,535,096	4,065	6/28/06
8	Batman Forever	WB	$184,031,112	2,893	$52,784,433	2,842	6/16/95
9	Batman Returns	WB	$162,831,698	2,644	$45,687,711	2,644	6/19/92
10	Superman	WB	$134,218,018	817	$7,465,343	508	12/15/78
11	Green Lantern	WB	$116,601,172	3,816	$53,174,303	3,816	6/17/11
12	Superman II	WB	$108,185,706	1,878	$14,100,523	1,397	6/19/81
13	Watchmen	WB	$107,509,799	3,611	$55,214,334	3,611	3/6/09
14	Batman and Robin	WB	$107,325,195	2,942	$42,872,605	2,934	6/20/97
15	Red	Sum.	$90,380,162	3,349	$21,761,408	3,255	10/15/10
16	Constantine	WB	$75,976,178	3,006	$29,769,098	3,006	2/18/05
17	V for Vendetta	WB	$70,511,035	3,365	$25,642,340	3,365	3/17/06
18	Superman III	WB	$59,950,623	1,763	$13,352,357	1,759	6/17/83
19	Red 2	LG/S	$53,262,560	3,016	$18,048,422	3,016	7/19/13
20	Catwoman	WB	$40,202,379	3,117	$16,728,411	3,117	7/23/04

 

 

Even adjusted for inflation BatsVSupes will end up pretty high on the overall list for not just DC but Comics Adaptations in general.  I think it does need to make a Billion though and it's pass 500 Million in a week but the legs have to hold better than this drops for it to make it. 

 

 

Considering how little some of those films made, if it wasn't in the top 10, ID be expecting the entire executive team at WB to be getting their papers.