MinaTakla Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Answering your question, @Planodisney, I think Pets does have a shot but it may not happen. It added around 4 million this weekend without Italy, so a 40% drop from now on in existing markets takes it to around 10 million. Add around 10 million more from its Italy run. Remaining money OS = 20 million. Remaining money DOM = 2 or 3 million. Remaining money WW = 22.5 million. It's now at 848m WW. 848m + 22.5m = 870.5m WW. So it will be very close. If it holds better everywhere then maybe it can eek it to 875m WW. But am not so sure. Next week we will know better after we see other holds. @Jasonmay be able to provide a more accurate numerical analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $365,389,630 43.0% + Foreign: $483,817,793 57.0% = Worldwide: $849,207,423 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 On 8/10/2016 at 9:51 PM, Planodisney said: So can Pets get passed BvS to join Dory and Zootopia in the top 5 WW for 2016? That would be 3 animated films in the top 5!!!!? Moana will surpass it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Pretty sure sub-800M is more likely for Moana than 875+. Minatakla is underestimating the late legs of the slop. I'd bet my money on 876M. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 0:39 PM, MinaTakla said: 848m + 22.5m = 870.5m WW. So it will be very close. If it holds better everywhere then maybe it can eek it to 875m WW. But am not so sure. Next week we will know better after we see other holds. @Jasonmay be able to provide a more accurate numerical analysis. Pets added a total of $13.9M during the week of October 3-9. Total of $2.5M from Australia, $5.1M from Italy, and ~$1.3M from Poland (my estimate using admissions from here). Leaving $5M from remaining territories. It's holding very well in earlier markets, here's a table showing week-by-week gains since September 11 (figures in US$ millions): Quote Market 11-Sep ∆ 18-Sep ∆2 25-Sep ∆3 02-Oct ∆4 09-Oct ∆5 Domestic $361.8 +$2.0 $363.4 +$1.6 $364.3 +$0.9 $364.9 +$0.6 $365.4 +$0.5 OS Total $428.0 +$20.9 $443.7 +$15.7 $457.4 +$13.7 $469.9 +$12.5 $483.8 +$13.9 Australia $5.6 +$5.6 $9.0 +$3.4 $13.6 +$4.6 $18.5 +$4.9 $21.0 +$2.5 Italy n/a +$0.0 n/a +$0.0 n/a +$0.0 n/a +$0.0 $5.1 +$5.1 Poland n/a +$0.0 n/a +$0.0 $1.7 +$1.7 $3.6 +$1.9 $4.9 +$1.3 Remaining OS $422.4 +$15.3 $434.7 +$12.3 $442.1 +$7.4 $447.8 +$5.7 $452.8 +$5.0 Total $789.8 +$22.9 $807.1 +$17.3 $821.7 +$14.6 $834.8 +$13.1 $849.2 +$14.4 Domestic is trickling in slowly but fairly steadily in the past few weeks, at least another $1.5M. I think Australia is headed for a total of about $23.5M (harsh drops after Labour Day seem to typical there, though I'm not an expert), and Poland about $7.5M. Italy is trickier since it's just opened and we don't know what the holds will be like, but for now I'm going with $17M. (Which is perhaps slightly conservative.) Remaining overseas markets have been dropping quite slowly (even taking into account the recent opening in South Africa), so I think there's about $10M to go from those markets. Based on all that, my projection: Quote Market Projection Domestic $367 OS Total $510 Australia $23.5 Italy $17 Poland $7.5 OS Remaining $462 Total $877 I actually think that forecast tends slightly conservative: Pets could easily get a bit more out of domestic, Italy, and remaining OS. Harsher than expected drops could have Pets fall short of BvS, but overall it's more likely than not that it passes. (cc: @Planodisney) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Thanks @Jasonfor the impeccable analysis as always. New chart: View: BY COUNTRY | BY WEEKEND Country (click to view weekend breakdown) Dist. Release Date Opening Wknd % of Total Total Gross / As Of FOREIGN TOTAL - 6/23/16 $14,197,447 2.9% $483,817,793 10/9/16 Argentina UPI 7/21/16 $3,837,781 28.4% $13,521,000 10/9/16 Australia UPI 9/8/16 $5,600,798 26.6% $21,037,517 10/9/16 Austria UPI 7/29/16 $750,000 14.9% $5,031,579 10/9/16 Belgium UPI 8/3/16 $1,235,212 29% $4,263,669 10/9/16 Bolivia UPI 8/4/16 $159,000 19.7% $808,000 10/9/16 Brazil UPI 8/25/16 $4,381,203 24.2% $18,110,795 10/9/16 Bulgaria Forum Films 8/5/16 $190,065 20.5% $928,189 10/9/16 Chile UPI 7/21/16 $1,720,309 28.7% $5,992,000 10/9/16 China UPI 8/2/16 $15,718,490 27% $58,307,653 10/2/16 Colombia UPI 7/21/16 $1,533,428 34% $4,511,951 10/9/16 Croatia UPI 8/18/16 $104,030 26.5% $392,972 10/9/16 Czech Republic CinemArt 8/11/16 $654,297 27.1% $2,416,152 10/9/16 Denmark UPI 8/4/16 $1,205,257 34.9% $3,450,039 10/9/16 Ecuador UPI 7/22/16 $434,007 23.5% $1,849,036 10/9/16 Egypt UPI 8/10/16 $44,965 21.9% $205,000 9/18/16 Estonia UPI 8/19/16 $188,818 29.5% $640,164 10/9/16 Finland UPI 8/5/16 $647,315 20.2% $3,211,491 10/9/16 France UPI 7/27/16 $5,854,000 22% $26,574,727 10/9/16 Germany UPI 7/28/16 $7,110,257 21.3% $33,390,000 10/9/16 Greece UPI 8/18/16 $287,739 21.8% $1,317,006 10/9/16 Hong Kong UPI 6/30/16 $1,868,237 44.7% $4,175,722 9/25/16 Hungary UIP 8/4/16 $774,778 25.8% $3,006,161 10/9/16 Iceland UPI 8/5/16 $36,667 12.6% $292,041 10/9/16 India UPI 7/8/16 $493,244 53.8% $916,558 9/18/16 Indonesia UPI 8/24/16 $1,076,212 56% $1,923,000 10/9/16 Israel UPI 6/30/16 $581,319 10.9% $5,321,222 10/9/16 Italy UPI 10/6/16 $5,140,471 100.2% $5,128,603 10/9/16 Japan UPI 8/11/16 $9,632,000 23.1% $41,607,000 10/9/16 Latvia UPI 8/19/16 $223,864 38.4% $582,663 10/9/16 Lebanon UPI 8/18/16 $82,061 24% $341,324 10/9/16 Lithuania UPI 8/5/16 $99,732 18.5% $538,782 10/9/16 Malaysia UPI 9/8/16 $646,000 42.4% $1,524,690 10/9/16 Mexico UPI 7/29/16 $7,594,000 33.6% $22,590,000 9/25/16 Netherlands UPI 8/4/16 $932,416 11.3% $8,232,524 10/9/16 New Zealand UPI 9/15/16 $765,551 26.9% $2,850,201 10/9/16 Norway UPI 6/24/16 $778,447 22.6% $3,446,643 10/9/16 Pakistan UPI 7/8/16 - - $76,366 8/21/16 Panama UPI 7/28/16 - - $4,733,453 10/9/16 Paraguay UPI 7/21/16 - - $265,121 10/2/16 Peru UPI 8/4/16 $1,514,505 32.2% $4,701,000 10/9/16 Philippines UPI 8/24/16 $1,017,000 56.4% $1,804,100 9/18/16 Poland UPI 9/23/16 $1,684,059 34.7% $4,855,191 10/9/16 Portugal UPI 8/18/16 $964,937 29.6% $3,264,563 10/9/16 Romania Ro Image 2000 8/5/16 $226,573 21.9% $1,035,312 10/9/16 Russia - CIS UPI 8/18/16 $16,300,650 47.6% $34,246,476 10/9/16 Serbia & Montenegro UPI 8/11/16 $127,354 33.1% $385,229 10/9/16 Singapore UPI 9/1/16 $1,304,079 49.5% $2,634,349 10/9/16 Slovakia CinemArt 8/11/16 $333,196 35% $952,047 10/9/16 Slovenia Karantanija 8/11/16 $60,098 12.5% $480,108 10/9/16 South Africa UPI 9/30/16 $349,436 75.4% $463,547 10/2/16 South Korea UPI 8/3/16 $4,652,347 26.6% $17,494,325 9/25/16 Spain UPI 8/5/16 $4,529,920 18.8% $24,059,191 10/9/16 Sweden UPI 8/5/16 $1,226,378 27.3% $4,493,803 10/9/16 Switzerland UPI 7/27/16 $909,000 19% $4,782,672 10/2/16 Taiwan UPI 7/1/16 $2,006,110 38% $5,276,000 9/25/16 Thailand UPI 7/28/16 $158,813 11.9% $1,337,913 9/11/16 Turkey UIP 8/5/16 $289,989 17.7% $1,634,020 10/2/16 Ukraine UPI 8/4/16 $818,335 28.9% $2,828,174 10/2/16 United Arab Emirates UPI 8/18/16 $594,024 31.9% $1,861,657 10/9/16 United Kingdom UPI 6/24/16 $13,419,000 30.6% $43,785,511 10/9/16 Uruguay UPI 7/28/16 $130,511 24.3% $537,435 10/2/16 Venezuela UPI 8/5/16 $148,000 15.4% $963,000 10/9/16 Vietnam UPI 7/1/16 $806,141 30% $2,684,000 10/9/16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Pets is now at $486.1M. Next up in terms of milestones is $500M, Kung Fu Panda 2 ($500.4M) and Inside Out ($501.1M). Ultimately, it is aiming for Shrek 4's $513.9M. http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/miss-peregrine-shoots-past-100m-international-tally/5110412.article?blocktitle=LATEST-INTERNATIONAL-BOX-OFFICE-NEWS&contentID=40071 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 New numbers! PETS officially crosses INSIDE OUT WorldWide!! Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $365,531,955 42.6% + Foreign: $492,200,000 57.4% = Worldwide: $857,731,955 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 28 minutes ago, MinaTakla said: New numbers! PETS officially crosses INSIDE OUT WorldWide!! once more, s**t defeats quality 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 A pragmatic emergent studio doesn't care about that. It's just in search of the easiest way to make money, and if it can manage to do that with a bunch of dumb jokes and a modest budget...why not? Kudos to Illumination. It's just like tarot cards: you can blame people for being stupid for believing in them, but it's hard to go against those who just take advantage of that lack of judgement. A Toy Story film with pets instead of toys HAD to be a huge success (in fact, I was actually worried it could challenge Zootopia WW, with Dory being the only obstacle). You just have to make moviegoers interested and satsfy their need of light superficial entertainment, which is sadly the first thing the casual moviegoer - especially if a child - is looking for when it (intentional) goes to a theatre. And this is true even when it comes to great movies like Zootopia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Omni said: A pragmatic emergent studio doesn't care about that. It's just in search of the easiest way to make money, and if it can manage to do that with a bunch of dumb jokes and a modest budget...why not? Kudos to Illumination. It's just like tarot cards: you can blame people for being stupid for believing in them, but it's hard to go against those who just take advantage of that lack of judgement. A Toy Story film with pets instead of toys HAD to be a huge success (in fact, I was actually worried it could challenge Zootopia WW, with Dory being the only obstacle). You just have to make moviegoers interested and satsfy their need of light superficial entertainment, which is sadly the first thing the casual moviegoer - especially if a child - is looking for when it (intentional) goes to a theatre. And this is true even when it comes to great movies like Zootopia. It's true. I think we are sort of blaming moviegoers rather than studio, but hopefully Illumination will lose its magic just like DWA, which is basically non-existent the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Great for PETS.if you don't like it,ignore it.it's not a shit for most people.857M ww is Great 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rthmessiah Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Domestic 365.788m 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 FORBES Illumination and Universal’s The Secret Life of Pets has made $858 million worldwide, passing Inside Out ($857m) as the fifth-biggest “not based on anything” hit of all time. http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/10/16/weekend-box-office-birth-of-a-nation-tumbles-secret-life-of-pets-passes-inside-out/#2c1b5e5819c4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 hours ago, bangbingchan said: Great for PETS.if you don't like it,ignore it.it's not a shit for most people.857M ww is Great Very compromising for those "most people". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS Universal Pictures Illumination Entertainment and Universal’s pack of pets in a pickle continues to wag the box office with a bigger than expected$5.7M this weekend in 56 territories. The international total is $492.2M to date since opening overseas in June. Worldwide, Petshas taken $858M. Italy’s second weekend is No. 2 behind Inferno with $3.2M at 507 dates. The total is $9.7M to keep pace withDespicable Me and outpace Zootopia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Pets moves to TOP 50 ALL TIME! MOJO Finally, Universal's animated feature The Secret Life of Pets brought in an estimated $5.7 million internationally this weekend, bringing its worldwide cume to $857.7 million, moving it ahead of Pixar's Inside Out and making it one of the top 50 all-time worldwide releases. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4232&p=.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Omni said: Very compromising for those "most people". So?are those who hate SLoP "most people"?Kids love pets.Family don't hate PETS.That's enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bangbingchan said: So?are those who hate SLoP "most people"?Kids love pets.Family don't hate PETS.That's enough. We don't even know if it's most people. That's your subjective judgement. Edited October 17, 2016 by Quigley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, bangbingchan said: So?are those who hate SLoP "most people"?Kids love pets.Family don't hate PETS.That's enough. Your answer "isn't even uncorrect" as W. Pauli used to reply at something that didn't just make any sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...