SUICIDE SQUAD WEEKEND THREAD | New REVISED SUNDAY NUMBER 134m FROM GURU ON PG 212 | 267.1M WW OW | Nine Lives 6.5 OW |No Spoilers Allowed!!! | ACCOUNT SALES THIS WEEKEND - see first post for details !!

[zackzack]

14 minutes ago, Finnick said:

A film with 175M budget + 150M on marketing like SS needs at least 900M to break even from theater incomes, because only 50% of theater incomes goes to the studio behind the movie stateside and 25% from other markets outside the US. Studios count on theater incomes + DVD/Digital/Rental incomes + Merchandise to have a mere 100M for a major blockbuster. It is not an easy business.

 

$150M marketing budget? What do they spend it on? How much caviar, champagnes, swanky penthouses & limo rides is that?

Edited August 7, 2016 by zackzack

[Fullbuster]

Wait guys...$35m Sat, isn't that disappointing??? Maybe I'm wrong but still..

[Elessar]

10 minutes ago, Finnick said:

A film with 175M budget + 150M on marketing like SS needs at least 900M to break even from theater incomes, because only 50% of theater incomes goes to the studio behind the movie stateside and 25% from other markets outside the US. Studios count on theater incomes + DVD/Digital/Rental incomes + Merchandise to have a mere 100M for a major blockbuster. It is not an easy business.

 

It's more like 40% outside US. 25% is what China nets you. Yes, studios rely on other revenue streams, too.

 

To all the doom and gloomers, a lot less succesful movies with a similar budget than SS get sequels, so it's still somehow worth it. WB is gonna be more than fine.

[Fullbuster]

2 hours ago, Olive said:

So James only over-predicted it by 50M?

And excel's 225M+

 

 

Ahaha poor James

[Fullbuster]

7 minutes ago, Elessar said:

 

It's more like 40% outside US. 25% is what China nets you. Yes, studios rely on other revenue streams, too.

 

To all the doom and gloomers, a lot less succesful movies with a similar budget than SS get sequels, so it's still somehow worth it. WB is gonna be more than fine.

 

WB will be fine, but I'm more worried about their next DC movies..they have gold in their hands and turn it into shit :/

 

I don't want Justice League to bomb, they just can't do that!

 

Thankfully I got a wonderful Civil War that made me happy, thanks Marvel

[a2k]

8 hours ago, Finnick said:

A film with 175M budget + 150M on marketing like SS needs at least 900M to break even from theater incomes, because only 50% of theater incomes goes to the studio behind the movie stateside and 25% from other markets outside the US. Studios count on theater incomes + DVD/Digital/Rental incomes + Merchandise to have a mere 100M for a major blockbuster. It is not an easy business.

 

far far less than 900m WW needed using the 50% dom cut and 25% os cut you mentioned (movies get more than 25% os actually).

 

650 WW would be good enough a movie with that budget:

 

175 + 150 = 325 budget.

 

250 dom would give the studio 125 (50%)

400 os would give 100 (25%)

125 + 100 = 225

 

325-225 = 100

 

So 100 remaining from auxiliary revenue after 650 WW.

 

600-650 WW would suffice for SS to break even make a big profit with auxiliary revenue.

APOC is going to break even too. 180m budget + market budget and did 540 WW.

Edited August 7, 2016 by a2knet

[Elessar]

2 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

WB will be fine, but I'm more worried about their next DC movies..they have gold in their hands and turn it into shit :/

 

Well, that's your opinion. I for one find the DCU much more interesting than the cookie cutter MCU.

 

The frontloadedness has less to do with WOM but the demographic audience makeup. It seems DC has less broad appeal. I'm sure WB would disagree, in the end, they exist to make money but not making movies for everyone is not neccessarily a bad thing. To the contrary.

[Thrylos 7]

Yeah we have fallen in the stage of denial...again .  Now people can't see where the marketing $$$ have gone ( for a movie that has been everywhere for quite some time) , the production budget is " 175 million$" ( all the reshoots were for free) , and WB is happy and will make many sequels to SS just like they were happy after MOS so they made what is essentially a batman movie with superman as a guest star instead of a true MOS sequel, just like WB are happy with BvS so they demoted its director , made huge changes in the suit persons that handle the DCCU and went into panic mode when it comes to SS .

 

Whatever , SS is a huge success that has made WB people dance with joy , a SS trilogy will be announced soon and I am out of here . 

[Krissykins]

Omg there's people here who think studios get 25% of international grosses.

 

 

Thats China only.

 

Please can we make a thread that new posters have to read before they start typing. 

[Fullbuster]

3 minutes ago, Elessar said:

 

Well, that's your opinion. I for one find the DCU much more interesting than the cookie cutter MCU.

 

The frontloadedness has less to do with WOM but the demographic audience makeup. It seems DC has less broad appeal. I'm sure WB would disagree, in the end, they exist to make money but not making movies for everyone is not neccessarily a bad thing. To the contrary.

 

It's not "my" opinion but a widespread feeling, Rotten and the global BO show it in a clear way.

Edited August 7, 2016 by Fullbuster

[a2k]

2 hours ago, MikeQ said:

 

Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August)

 

1. Finding Dory - 94% - 7.7 rating
2. The Nice Guys - 91% - 7.6 rating
3. Captain America: Civil War - 90% - 7.6 rating
4. Star Trek Beyond - 84% - 6.9 rating
5. The Conjuring 2 - 80% - 6.7 rating
6. Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping - 77% - 6.7 rating
7. The Shallows - 77% - 6.5 rating
8. Lights Out - 76% - 6.3 rating
9. Secret Life of Pets - 75% - 6.2 rating
10. The BFG - 73% - 6.7 rating
11. Ghostbusters - 73% - 6.5 rating
12. The Infiltrator - 68% - 6.5 rating 
13. Central Intelligence - 68% - 5.7 rating
14. Bad Moms - 63% - 5.7 rating
15. Neighbours 2: Sorority Rising - 62% - 5.7 rating
16. Me Before You - 59% - 5.6 rating
17. Jason Bourne - 57% - 5.9 rating
18. Money Monster - 57% - 5.9 rating
19. Nerve - 57% - 5.6 rating
20. The Purge: Election Year - 54% - 5.3 rating
21. X-Men: Apocalypse - 48% - 5.7 rating
22. Free State of Jones - 43% - 5.4 rating
23. Angry Birds Movie - 43% - 4.9 rating
24. Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates - 39% - 5.0 rating
25. TMNT: Out of the Shadows - 38% - 4.7 rating
26. The Legend of Tarzan - 35% - 5.0 rating
27. Now You See Me 2 - 34% - 4.9 rating
28. Independence Day: Resurgence - 32% - 4.4 rating
29. Alice Through the Looking Glass - 30% - 4.6 rating
30. Warcraft - 29% - 4.2 rating
31. Suicide Squad - 26% - 4.7 rating
32. Ice Age: Collision Course - 12% - 3.9 rating
33. The Darkness - 5% - 2.5 rating
34. Nine Lives - 5% - 1.9 rating 

 

Most cases RT and legs more or less have aligned.

CW, TREK, TARZAN the biggest exceptions.

CI and MOMS also doing better than expected.

[Krissykins]

42 minutes ago, Finnick said:

A film with 175M budget + 150M on marketing like SS needs at least 900M to break even from theater incomes, because only 50% of theater incomes goes to the studio behind the movie stateside and 25% from other markets outside the US. Studios count on theater incomes + DVD/Digital/Rental incomes + Merchandise to have a mere 100M for a major blockbuster. It is not an easy business.

 

You couldn't be more incorrect. 

 

Mods, can someone teach these people? 

[a2k]

No late Sat update from Deadline? Maybe they are in shock after 146+ headline on the front page.

 

Predictions before Thu previews (Prediction after Fri estimate in brackets),

pro.BO 133 (135)

BOM 145 (138)

GURU 128 (140)

the-numbers 125 (137)

 

GURU had it most accurate before the release. But after FRI estimate was released, pro.BO was good at estimating the front-loading.

Edited August 7, 2016 by a2knet

[goldenstate5]

Bwahahaha this is hilarious. Please stay between 30 and 35 mil.

[Elessar]

2 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

It's not "my" opinion but a widespread feeling, Rotten and the global BO show it in a clear way.

 

It is your opinion, irrespective of what others might say.

 

You mean, the BO that shows huge hype every time a DC movie opens? Or the good home video sales? There is and continues to be a strong appetite for the DCU. It just isn't as wide an audience than with some other properties.

[eddyxx]

9 hours ago, Gopher said:

*reads Saturday number*

 

ahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

[bcf26]

I see that there are two good news at the box office:

1. Suicide Squad will break the August opening weekend record (previously held by Guardians of the Galaxy) with at least $120M

2. Bad Moms will have a great hold on its 2nd weekend ( I loved the movie and it was hilarious)

[jb007]

25 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

It's not "my" opinion but a widespread feeling, Rotten and the global BO show it in a clear way.

+1

 

BvS Domestic multiplier 1.99

Overseas multiplier 2.1

 

Fact.

[eddyxx]

9 hours ago, terrestrial said:

Based on the many Wonder Woman posts, I started to remember: wasn't Joss Whedon in the past considered/attatched as director for it? How the movie 'world' might look like, if he wouldn't have done Avengers, but WW instead?

It probably wouldn't  have done well.  None of the other female super heroes were doing good. 

[Elessar]

18 minutes ago, jb007 said:

+1

 

BvS Domestic multiplier 1.99

Overseas multiplier 2.1

 

Fact.

 

CW had a DOM multi of 2,27. I guess WOM was only slightly better than BvS.

As for the OS multi, if we account for the fact that it had a more staggered release, it's multi seem to not have been any better than BvS'.

 

Not to mention that there are other factors that influence the multiplier...

Edited August 7, 2016 by Elessar