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[La Binoche]

3 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

When Spielberg or any director in town has a question, he calls James Cameron.

 

Without James Cameron, Jurassic Park would have not have been a game changing movie.

 

There can only be one God.

 

Cameron has the genius of Spielberg as a director.

 

Cameron has the foresight of Lucas on the use of technology.

 

Cameron has an intricate knowledge of absolutely every element of the movie he s directing, just like Kubrick, nothing is random.

 

In 1975 when Spielberg essentially created the Summer blockbuster with the then biggest movie of all time (Jaws), what was Cameron's contribution? 

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, La Binoche said:

 

In 1975 when Spielberg essentially created the Summer blockbuster with the then biggest movie of all time (Jaws), what was Cameron's contribution? 

The billion dollar Juggurnaut.

[La Binoche]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

The billion dollar Juggurnaut.

 

The implication was that Spielberg needs Cameron's help. Jaws, Close Encounters, Indiana Jones and ET were released while Cameron was still unknown. 

[baumer]

I love Cameron, but Spielberg and Lucas inspired him, not the other way around.

[The Futurist]

Cameron was angry at Lucas when he saw Star Wars back in 1977.

 

 

 

 

[baumer]

1 minute ago, The Futurist said:

Cameron was angry at Lucas when he saw Star Wars back in 1977.

 

 

 

 

 

Why in the world was he angry?  

 

He's been quoted as saying that SW inspired him to be a film maker.

[La Binoche]

Jaws was the first movie to truly use a TV campaign in its marketing. It made TV spots a thing for movies. 

[baumer]

1 minute ago, La Binoche said:

Jaws was the first movie to truly use a TV campaign in its marketing. It made TV spots a thing for movies. 

 

You and I are on the same page for this but to be fair, I think that had more to do with Universal and Zanuck and Brown than it did Spielberg.

[DAJK]

Hope Kal or iron jimbo see this...

[The Futurist]

6 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said:

 

Why in the world was he angry?  

 

He's been quoted as saying that SW inspired him to be a film maker.

 

Cameron was angry because of his ego.

 

He said to himself : " that s the movie I should have done."

 

He took it personally.

 

Star Wars was the ultimate fantasy/sci-fi movie done right for the first time and it was a wet dream for Cameron who, at the time, had already read/seen every sci-fi/fantasy book/movie known to man.

 

Star Wars was the ultimate game changing movie, not Jaws who only changed business practices and movie calendars.

Edited November 27, 2016 by The Futurist

[La Binoche]

And what does Cameron's bitterness towards Star Wars have to do with his impact? 

[baumer]

4 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

 

Cameron was angry because of his ego.

 

He said to himself : " that s the movie I should have done."

 

He took it personally.

 

Star Wars was the ultimate fantasy/sci-fi movie done right for the first time and it was a wet dream for Cameron who, at the time, had already read/seen every sci-fi/fantasy book/movie known to man.

 

Star Wars was the ultimate game changing movie, not Jaws who only changed business practices and movie calendars.

 

Star Wars changed special effects, that doesn't make it a better film than JAWS.

[SWXII]

23 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said:

I love Cameron, but Spielberg and Lucas inspired him, not the other way around.

 

Well they all owe Walt, his studios, and those dwarves. All 7 of them.

[SWXII]

10 minutes ago, La Binoche said:

And what does Cameron's bitterness towards Star Wars have to do with his impact? 

 

He must still be bitter. He just claimed they were just repeating themselves. As if the Death Star...... never mind.

 

Seriously though, I think they have only begun to explore the Star Wars galaxy.

[aabattery]

I don't know if anyone else pointed this out yet, but Billy Lynn has a lower PTA than Finding Dory. ($68 vs $218)

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[Dementeleus]

It's silly to take Cameron's statement at face value, since he wasn't even 23 at the time he saw SW. Better to read it as an over-exaggerated way of emphasizing how meaningful/influential it was to him. 

[baumer]

1 minute ago, AABATTERY said:

I don't know if anyone else pointed this out yet, but Billy Lynn has a lower PTA than Finding Dory. ($68 vs $218)

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Too bad because its a fine movie with a powerful message imo.

[4815162342]

So, Hacksaw Ridge was very good. Great balance between the drama first half and hell on earth war film second half.

 

Allied was good, if spotty. It felt like a couple subplots had been conceived of but then cut, but a few tiny scraps had to be left in to preserve the coherency of other scenes.

[water]

i watched moana today. best movie of the year, and one of all time

 

legs are going to be crazy good, it's a perfect movie with a lot of rewatch value. 350 for sure, hopefully 1b ww, how's it doing os?

[Maxmoser3]

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