cookie Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, grey ghost said: Can you do the list without whites? I'm curious how much shorter it would be. @Blankments 7 hours ago, Blankments said: Despicable Me 2 – 368M Furious 7 – 353M Minions – 336M The Sixth Sense – 294M acclaimed science-fiction film acclaimed science-fiction film Gravity – 274M Despicable Me – 252M Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban – 250M Fast & Furious 6 – 239M Signs – 228M Mission: Impossible II - 215.4M Fast Five – 209M Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs – 197M Ice Age: The Meltdown – 195M The Revenant – 183.6M Get Out – 170.58M The Help – 169.7M The Fate of the Furious – 169.3M Kung Fu Panda 2 – 165.2M Straight Outta Compton – 161.2M Die Another Day – 160.9M Star Trek Beyond – 159M Scary Movie – 157.0M Fast and Furious – 155.1M Fantastic Four – 154.7M Rio – 143.6M Kung Fu Panda 3 - 143.5M The Blair Witch Project – 140.54M Split – 138.0M The Conjuring – 137.4M Ride Along – 134.9M Hulk – 132.2M Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - 131.9M The Last Airbender – 131.8M Rio 2 – 131.5M Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon – 128.08M 2 Fast 2 Furious – 127.2M Safe House - 126.4M Life of Pi – 124.99M G.I. Joe: Retaliation - 122.5M Lee Daniels’ The Butler - 116.6M The Village – 114.2M Spy Kids - 112.72M Face/Off - 112.3M Spy Kids 3D: Game Over - 111.8M The Grudge - 110.4M 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thanks a million, @cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 What about movie made by immigrants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blankments said: I know Frozen, the Despicable Me movies, and Zootopia all fall under "several directors, but at least one isn't a hetero white male." So, what is it for the Despicable Me movies? Edited April 27, 2017 by cannastop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) So this year Patty Jenkins (Wonder Woman), Taika Waititi (Thor 3) and maybe Kathryn Bigelow (Detroit) will be added to the list. Any other films being released that could qualify? Edited April 27, 2017 by Lizzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Lizzy said: So this year Patty Jenkins (Wonder Woman), Taika Waititi (Thor 3) and maybe Kathryn Bigelow (Detroit) will be added to the list. Any other films being released that could qualify? Not this year but Nika Caro should get on the list with Mulan in 2018. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, cannastop said: So, what is it for the Despicable Me movies? Pierre Coffin is of Indonesian descent Edited April 27, 2017 by tribefan695 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 It's also interesting to see which filmmakers are from and work overseas (though in conjunction with American companies and distributors) and which ones don't. The Illumination guys are based in France, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) You should also add Shrek 1 (co-directed by a woman) and the Sam Mendes hits (of Trinidad/Portuguese descent). If you're going to count Daniel Espinosa you should count him too. Edited April 27, 2017 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, tribefan695 said: You should also add Shrek 1 (co-directed by a woman) and the Sam Mendes James Bond movies (of Trinidad/Portuguese descent). If you're going to count Daniel Espinosa you should count him too. It's interesting to see where you draw the barrier -- and I don't think there's an obvious or clear answer. Mendes' father was Portuguese but he was born in England. And of course "Portuguese" could mean a variety of different ancestries. As a sort-of counter argument, if I was a famous director, my mother is Greek but my father is American (of English/Scottish extraction). Is my "Greekness" enough to qualify me as a minority? I wouldn't think so and I look about as white as it gets. Then, to complicate things further, if my son becomes a famous director, he's got that Greek ancestry plus Spanish/Equadoran on his mother's side. Does he count as a minority? Technically, he does, without a doubt, but he's a blue-eyed, brown-haired kid -- if anything, he'll end up looking like a California surf dude. There's a line to be drawn somewhere, and honestly I don't exactly know where the cutoff is. But Sam Mendes feels like a bridge too far, at least IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I'd definitely say Espinosa is kinda stretching it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Despicable Me, DM2 and Minions - Pierre Coffin and Chris Renaud are both white males with wives, as far as I'm aware? Or do French people count as a minority now? The Matrix - in my opinion shouldn't count as at the time, the filmmakers were straight white males as far as the public was concerned. acclaimed science-fiction film acclaimed science-fiction film acclaimed science-fiction film Gravity & Prisoner of Azkaban -Alfonso Cuaron is foreign but hardly non white. How are you defining white? Doctor Dolittle - Richard Fleischer? Where does he fit in? White man married to a woman... Blair Witch Project - this Eduardo Sanchez guy looks pretty white to me: Ice Age & Robots - the director Chris Wedge is white, male and married to a woman. Interesting idea of a list. as said above you missed out shrek. Are you just defining non-white as non-American? Edited April 27, 2017 by Manchester by the Tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 We should keep track of overall grosses by minority/disadvantaged filmmakers too Looks like right now the top ten is 1 M. Night Shyamalan - $1,233m 2 Bill Condon - $1,202m 3 Bryan Singer - $1,142m 4 Carlos Saldanha - $972m 5 Pierre Coffin - $956m 6 Justin Lin - $846m Sam Mendes? 7 Tyler Perry - $817m 8 James Wan - $814m 9 Tim Story - $782m 10 Lilly/Lana Wachowski - $715m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Manchester by the Tree said: Doctor Dolittle - Richard Fleischer? Where does he fit in? White man married to a woman... Ice Age & Robots - the director Chris Wedge is white, male and married to a woman. The Eddie Murphy Dolittle was directed by Betty Thomas. Ice Age and Robots were co-directed by a native Brazilian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Manchester by the Tree said: Doctor Dolittle - Richard Fleischer? Where does he fit in? White man married to a woman... Blanks listed the 1998 Eddie Murphy version which was directed by a woman (Betty Thomas), not the 1967 original which Fleischer directed. Edit: Beaten to it by that much. Edited April 27, 2017 by cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: The Eddie Murphy Dolittle was directed by Betty Thomas. Ice Age and Robots were co-directed by a native Brazilian. ah, I just googled the film and clicked the first result. as for the Robots and Ice Age director - these rules seem rather arbitrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 No, the other guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Saldanha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) ^ I think some of the confusion (which I myself fell into) stems from Ice Age and Robots' wiki pages only listing Wedge as the director. Edited April 27, 2017 by cookie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: We should keep track of overall grosses by minority/disadvantaged filmmakers too Looks like right now the top ten is 1 M. Night Shyamalan - $1,233m 2 Bill Condon - $1,202m 3 Bryan Singer - $1,142m 4 Carlos Saldanha - $972m 5 Pierre Coffin - $956m 6 Justin Lin - $846m Sam Mendes? 7 Tyler Perry - $817m 8 James Wan - $814m 9 Tim Story - $782m 10 Lilly/Lana Wachowski - $715m Why would Sam Mendes be included? The only indication of him having some foreign ancestry is his last name. He is English and having seen the guy in real life he is very much white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: No, the other guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Saldanha Huh. On the wikipedia articles for those films they're just listed as being directed by one guy. Animated films in general are pretty pointless for this, as the "director" doesn't have the same job and is rarely used in marketing like directors of live-action films are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...