The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[WrathOfHan]

Pulse:

 

1. Crazy Rich Asians

2. Mission Impossible

3. The Meg

4. BlacKkKlansman

5. Mile 22

[WrathOfHan]

Was taking a look at how CRA is selling at my theater bc I was thinking of going today, and it has picked up the pace MASSIVELY from yesterday

[el sid]

MT update:

#1 CRA 29.3%

#2 The Meg 14.4%

#3 CR 7.6%

#4 BlacKkKlansman 5.9%

#5 M: I6 5.8%

Pulse:

Mile 22: 53/5 minutes - not that bad (comparisons: Equalizer2 82 (same day and daytime), Sicario2 44 (also same day but 6 hours later)
Alpha: 23/5 minutes - at least way better than Slender Man (10 tickets) last week or The Darkest Minds (6) but so far I don't have any good comparisons of Pulse counting for this kind of film...

Edited August 16, 2018 by el sid

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, WrathOfHan said:

Was taking a look at how CRA is selling at my theater bc I was thinking of going today, and it has picked up the pace MASSIVELY from yesterday

The grandmas are coming out in full force.

[WrathOfHan]

Tonight at my theater:

 

Alpha:

5:00: 0/78

7:30 3D: 10/78 (9 of these are in a row)

Total: 10/156

 

Mile 22: 7/78

 

[filmlover]

Mile 22's reviews are really bad so far.

[TalismanRing]

34 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Mile 22's reviews are really bad so far.

Reading the blurbs I don't see that changing - most of them these aren't borderline negative but out and out pans

 

 

[filmlover]

12 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Reading the blurbs I don't see that changing - most of them these aren't borderline negative but out and out pans

 

 

One of the main things it sounds like everyone hates about is that it takes the worst jingoistic impulses of Berg/Wahlberg's true story dramas and multiplies them times a million. These two need a break from each other.

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, filmlover said:

One of the main things it sounds like everyone hates about is that it takes the worst jingoistic impulses of Berg/Wahlberg's true story dramas and multiplies them times a million. These two need a break from each other.

Aside from content the other main complaint is that it's a poorly made movie - a needed break indeed.

[WrathOfHan]

It's disappointing that Mile 22 is getting bad reviews after Patriots Day was good, but I can't say I'm surprised. Those trailers were horrrrrrrrrrible.

[Barnack]

On 5/24/2017 at 3:33 AM, TLK said:

 

What is the post-theatrical portion of the revenues these days for mid-budget movies ? Are they still making more than 50% from TV,streaming,DVD sales and rentals ?

 

On 5/24/2017 at 10:24 AM, Barnack said:

Liongates annual report break the result down by release year and that show that the overall slate still do more than 50% from post-theatrical, but that include small title.

 

Finally did a small breakdown of Liongates theatrical slates, and during the fiscal year 2013 (april 2012 to march 2013) they pretty much only had hunger Games has a relevant title for the 2012 fiscal year release going on we can see that they made 328.4m with that movie alone, during that moment alone on home ent + TV, so the first year after release the revenues were already quite above the domestic rental of a bit above 200m.

 

Not sure how to present the number the best and there is the obvious issue of movies released near the end of the fiscal year making some of the box office in a different fiscal year. So it is better to take many year's has an average because some of the first HG rental appear in the 2013 fiscal year for example.

 

For the movie they released during the fiscal year 2011 (end march 31 2011), domestic market alone

 

Year 0 (during that year)

Theatrical: $205.9m

Home Ent: $231.6m

TV: $29.4m

 

Year 1

Home ent: $83.4m

TV: $59.2m (that the big tv window year)

 

Year 2

Home Ent: $8.4m

TV: $21.3m

 

Has a table it look like this:

                                                                    Home entertainment                                              Television                                         

Year	Theatrical		Year 0	Year 1	Year 2	Total		Year 0	Year 1	Year 2	Total		Rental/total
2011	205.9		231.6	83.4	8.4	323.4		29.4	59.2	21.3	109.9		205.9/639.2
2012	208.9		74.6	236.2	28.3	339.1		9.8	49.2	8.6	67.6		208.9/615.6
2013	535.5		299.7	185.1	20.2	505		42.8	94.4	17.6	154.8		535.5/1195.3
2014	524.7		259.2	194.6	24.8	478.6		24.4	98.3	15.4	138.1		524.7/1141.4

 

 

Look like that Liongates during a movie first 2.5 year's of business was making in domestic total revenues for their title in average 261% of their theatrical rental in the domestic market. 1475m from tickets vs 2116.5m from the ancillary revenues first 2.5 year's, without including what they will do for the next 25 year's has library value nor the international market that use DBO amount to calculate TV right price.

 

For an example, for each 100m made at the domestic box office, they would make around 53m in rental and 138m in total revenues, so a movie around that time could make around 120-145% of is domestic box office in revenues + legacy down the line library value/revenues. That match the Sony leaked one pretty closely I think.

 

Sadly they did stop to breakdown the annual report for each year and acquisition title from summit in different line, getting too complicated maybe, but I will do a bit of the same for their annual total break down.

 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Barnack

[dxmatrixdt]

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Edited February 20, 2019 by Slave Animal Rights

[Eric Prime]

Alpha	30	1257	2.39%
Crazy Rich Asians (3-Day)	110	1027	10.71%
Crazy Rich Asians (5-Day)	163	1595	10.22%
Mile 22	43	1672	2.57%

 

I'm on a timecrunch, so since I already did CRA a day ago, and nobody cares about Alpha...

 

Mile 22 comps:

119% of The Foreigner (15.7M)

54% of The Commuter (7.4M)

139% of 12 Strong (21.9M)

89% of 15;17 (11.2M)

73% of Death Wish (9.5M)

72% of Skyscraper (17.8M)

17% of The Meg (7.6M)

 

[dxmatrixdt]

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Edited August 19, 2018 by dmatrixfilmdx

[DAJK]

6 minutes ago, dmatrixfilmdx said:

what happens if somehow your life gets into the movies, (without your permission) but you do not know how, and the people who did it will not answer you? 

is that wrong?

 

should I just kill myself?  I feel like I cannot move out of bed until I am dead.  what do I do?

Um, is everything alright man? We're here for you and if something's wrong you can always talk to one of us

[dxmatrixdt]

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Edited February 20, 2019 by Slave Animal Rights

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, dmatrixfilmdx said:

thanks.  somehow my life made it to 2018 movies.  I am still in a rehab like setting where I am away from communicating with the real world.

so after I spit up water while watching the movies, I am still getting the silent treatment.

 

how else can I get their attention?  I feel like id rather be dead then keep waiting.  If I go to a hospital, I will fight and claw and everything will get wors.e

1-800-273-8255. Call the suicide hotline.

[dxmatrixdt]

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Edited August 19, 2018 by dmatrixfilmdx

[WrathOfHan]

2 minutes ago, dmatrixfilmdx said:

why wont you guys just tell me what is going on instead?  movies are fucking worldwide.  they don't need these calls when someone else can fix this

If you are actively thinking about committing suicide, please call the hotline immediately. Your life is worth living. 

[dxmatrixdt]

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Edited August 19, 2018 by dmatrixfilmdx