LaughingEvans Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 who gives a shit about what the european union wants, jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, LaughingEvans said: who gives a shit about what the european union wants, jesus. You are aware about without the approvement the merger would not happen? Beside, maybe ppl still living in the EU might be interested (I guess some from the UK not as much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I do realise it, I'm just questioning their authority over the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said: I do realise it, I'm just questioning their authority over the deal. I imagine many of Fox's properties are based in the UE, and without the UE approval maybe they wouldn't allow Disney-Fox operate in the UE (neither broadcast or online). Same goes for China. Fox and Disney may be american, but they operate in other countries, so they have to follow the local laws. I mean, there's a world outside America, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) The EU concession is so ridiculous. The EU is that worried that Disney would have a monopoly on "fact-based" television stations? Lifetime is a "fact-based" televisions station now? Honestly, it's not a big concession, but it does seem like a petty with for the EU to ask for a concession on. Owning National Geographic and the History Channel together does not give Disney a monopoly on the facts. However, a few less cable stations in Europe isn't going to hurt Disney much at all. Edited November 6, 2018 by Walt Disney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 33 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said: I imagine many of Fox's properties are based in the UE, and without the UE approval maybe they wouldn't allow Disney-Fox operate in the UE (neither broadcast or online). Same goes for China. Fox and Disney may be american, but they operate in other countries, so they have to follow the local laws. I mean, there's a world outside America, you know. As long as the deal is alright according to international trade laws, what right does the EU have to intervene? If they want to regulate private companies, why don't they start with Siemens bribing politicians, or Thyssenkrup for (knowingly) dealing defective arms to countries? I don't remember them beign bothered by Novartis doing shady shit in their territories either. So, what's special about this deal? I'll tell you what's special: Disney didn't bribe them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said: As long as the deal is alright according to international trade laws, what right does the EU have to intervene? If they want to regulate private companies, why don't they start with Siemens bribing politicians, or Thyssenkrup for (knowingly) dealing defective arms to countries? I don't remember them beign bothered by Novartis doing shady shit in their territories either. So, what's special about this deal? I'll tell you what's special: Disney didn't bribe them. Nearly every country / economical region has to agree to such kind of deals, that has nothing to do with especially the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) I did a fast glance: Fox - Disney shareholders approved already in ~ July. in the US they have to give up / split from 22 regional FOX sport channels and the Murdochs will form a new Fox company out of Quote Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, the Fox Business Network, FS1, FS2, Fox Deportes and the Big Ten Network also Fox Soccer Plus That one will start at 1st January 2019 At the end of July 2018 there were still at least 15 countries / regions open, China, Russia, India, Brazil, and the EU among them: India approved at 12 August 2018 In the EU the approval was reported as of 6 November, Quote investment of certain factual television networks in Europe owned by the Disney/Hearst joint venture A&E Networks, including Blaze, Crime & Investigation, History, H2, and Lifetime. Disney will continue to be a 50 percent owner of A&E in areas outside of the European Economic Area China seemingly approved too, no details found. Brazil has to approve the dissolve of the Fox's channels or so The remaining countries I am not sure about, the biggest one seems to be Russia = I didn't found any report about an approval so that one at least seems to be still open. Any other detail known about to give up this or that for region ....? List of countries still open? As the stock on Sky gets sold by FOX, not sure who gets the money for that to which %. The other sales where more formulated like has to be sold by Disney or so. Edited November 7, 2018 by terrestrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 8:57 AM, terrestrial said: I did a fast glance: Fox - Disney shareholders approved already in ~ July. in the US they have to give up / split from 22 regional FOX sport channels and the Murdochs will form a new Fox company out of also Fox Soccer Plus That one will start at 1st January 2019 At the end of July 2018 there were still at least 15 countries / regions open, China, Russia, India, Brazil, and the EU among them: India approved at 12 August 2018 In the EU the approval was reported as of 6 November, China seemingly approved too, no details found. Brazil has to approve the dissolve of the Fox's channels or so The remaining countries I am not sure about, the biggest one seems to be Russia = I didn't found any report about an approval so that one at least seems to be still open. Any other detail known about to give up this or that for region ....? List of countries still open? As the stock on Sky gets sold by FOX, not sure who gets the money for that to which %. The other sales where more formulated like has to be sold by Disney or so. There are 9 countries that have not approved the deal yet. They are: China Russia Brazil South Korea Mexico Israel Japan United Kingdom Australia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, Walt Disney said: There are 9 countries that have not approved the deal yet. They are: China Russia Brazil South Korea Mexico Israel Japan United Kingdom Australia Do you happen to know any dates for any of those countries? E.g. like 'papers... have to be in till latest... like they did it in the EU? there were some remarks in the net about the thing being over maybe a bit earlier than expected. Expectations seem to be ~ (early?) summer 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, terrestrial said: Do you happen to know any dates for any of those countries? E.g. like 'papers... have to be in till latest... like they did it in the EU? there were some remarks in the net about the thing being over maybe a bit earlier than expected. Expectations seem to be ~ (early?) summer 2019 I wish I did, but I don't. I can't find any information on those countries. For all I know, some of them may have approved the merger already, but haven't officially announced it yet. I know China is rumored to be very close to approving the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Disney wins China’s approval for $71bn Fox deal China, which was the last big regulatory hurdle, had cleared the deal seemingly without any conditions as was rumoured a few days back. A few countries still remain that we have not heard from but the big ones (US, EU, India, China) are all done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Amazon Among Bidders for Fox Regional Sports Networks: Report - Amazon bids for the 22 regional sports channels that Disney must divest in - Total worth of these 22 channels are in the region of 20-22 billion. Which means Disney’s deal is cheaper by that amount - Other bidders are Sinclair, Tegna, Apollo and KKR - Yankees wants one of the networks (Yes network) which is NY based and home of the Yankees. They already own 20% of the network and have first buy optioms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: - Total worth of these 22 channels are in the region of 20-22 billion. Which means Disney’s deal is cheaper by that amount People saying television is death general discourse really does not match with how much Fox was sold for. Edited November 21, 2018 by Barnack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Russia has approved the deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Walt Disney said: Russia has approved the deal. so accoding to the old list, with China and Russia aout of the way these are remaining? Quote Brazil South Korea Mexico Israel Japan United Kingdom Australia Not sure about the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, terrestrial said: so accoding to the old list, with China and Russia aout of the way these are remaining? Not sure about the UK I don't really understand the details about the UK either. They should still be part of Europe, but until I hear differently, I will keep them on the list of countries that haven't officially approved the deal yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, noname said: I posted this in the Brazil forum this is important: Thank you a lot I am not surprised, especially the sport sector/part/percentage seems to be overly big in countries where both companies built up stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Brazil set to approve the deal early next year pending some conditions being fulfilled. https://ctfn.news/dec-12-2018-dis-foxa-101562/ Edited December 13, 2018 by ZeeSoh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 6:55 PM, terrestrial said: South Korea Mexico Israel Japan United Kingdom (???) Australia thank you @ZeeSoh , I updated the list ot the remaing countries as far as 'known'. I guess we will hear more in a few weeks, a new year,... might be a typical date for a ruling in this or that country too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
