AniNate Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I imagine they'll announce everything past Dory at next year's D23 expo. I hope that Dia de Muertos project is still going. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Speaking of cancellations, Ed Catmull has things to say about Newt http://www.fastcompany.com/3027549/lessons-learned/pixars-ed-catmull-on-how-to-balance-art-and-commerce So it seems Newt got the axe in favor of Inside Out Wait... Rydstrom was fired from Newt before cancellation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I imagine they'll announce everything past Dory at next year's D23 expo. I hope that Dia de Muertos project is still going. I'd hope that, if it isn't, a Lee Unkrich movie is announced regardless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 It's good to have some closure on what happened with Newt. I'm sure Inside Out will be fantastic though so I'm glad Doctor did what he wanted to do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilderic Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I hope that Dia de Muertos project is still going.I want that film. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 New poster for "Toy Story that Time Forgot" http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=120828 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 New poster for "Toy Story that Time Forgot"http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=120828Always in for another Toy Story special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Slashfilm has more on Newt's demise, including some newly released concept art http://www.slashfilm.com/pixars-newt-inside-out/ To be honest, it's really seeming like it was the right call to can it. I know we hate it when new properties get pushed aside, but it really doesn't look like it would've been anything particularly special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I love Pixar, but I'm sick of their spiel. It was great before they decided to make Cars 2, now it's just the same old recycled story that has been proven to be bullshit. Don't tell me that's what you do and have Cars 2 come out. Fuck off Catmull and start making real movies again. But nah, announced Cars 3 haven't they? They started drinking their own Kool-Aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 and cancelled newt? Still a better story than Cars 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I'm okay with Pixar making sequels IF I get my The Incredibles 2! 2017...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) I don't think storytelling is as much a concern for them with the Cars movies. The world is fundamentally illogical, so there's no point trying to make a meaningful tale out of it. Edited August 15, 2014 by tribefan695 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) The problem is that Cars 2 represented, and continues to represent, everything people like us DIDN'T want from Pixar. A sequel to a film which was not particularly critically liked, but which sold tons of merchandise (so a sequel that was made just for the money), which had a weak story and which centered around the most hated character from the original. Many people would have rather they made a noble original failure like newt.Cars 2 really poisoned the Pixar well for a lot of people. There was never really complaints about story interference before then (except maybe what Lasseter did to American Dog, but that wasn't actually Pixar). But the general attitude among some cinephiles and animation geeks seems to be "Pixar has become the worst things about Disney, they're too commercial, they're too safe, they interfere with directors' visions, they make too many sequels, they only care about money, they should be acting on principle and making more risky original projects even if they don't have as much revenue potential." They want the Pixar that we see in all those DVD extras from the 00s, the Pixar where creativity reigned supreme, and their financial success always seemed rightfully earned because their films were so good. The Pixar, and the John Lasseer, that was essentially a childhood hero to many millennial geeks.And there also seems to be sort of an underlying attitude among the people who grew up with Pixar, the aforementioned millennial geeks, that Pixar should grow up with them. The original Cars was met with scorn from the first teaser, because people expected that now that Pixar had matured with The Incredibles, they should keep maturing, keep pushing the envelope, keep moving forward. To these people, Cars looked like a step BACKWARDS. So a Cars 2 would be even more insulting from this mindset - "Pixar has betrayed its mission statement for easy money, and they've betrayed US too." In short, feelings of betrayal and anger at their childhood heroes, their artistic idols, selling out.I honestly wonder, if Cars 2 had never happened, would people have reacted less harshly to Brenda Chapman's removal from Brave, or the stuff with The Good Dinosaur, or even the cancellation of newt? Edited August 15, 2014 by TServo2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I'm okay with Pixar making sequels IF I get my The Incredibles 2! 2017...? I want The Incredibles 2 if the one and only, the greatest of them all is back to direct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahnamahna Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The problem is that Cars 2 represented, and continues to represent, everything people like us DIDN'T want from Pixar. A sequel to a film which was not particularly critically liked, but which sold tons of merchandise (so a sequel that was made just for the money), which had a weak story and which centered around the most hated character from the original. Many people would have rather they made a noble original failure like newt.Cars 2 really poisoned the Pixar well for a lot of people. There was never really complaints about story interference before then (except maybe what Lasseter did to American Dog, but that wasn't actually Pixar). But the general attitude among some cinephiles and animation geeks seems to be "Pixar has become the worst things about Disney, they're too commercial, they're too safe, they interfere with directors' visions, they make too many sequels, they only care about money, they should be acting on principle and making more risky original projects even if they don't have as much revenue potential." They want the Pixar that we see in all those DVD extras from the 00s, the Pixar where creativity reigned supreme, and their financial success always seemed rightfully earned because their films were so good. The Pixar, and the John Lasseer, that was essentially a childhood hero to many millennial geeks.And there also seems to be sort of an underlying attitude among the people who grew up with Pixar, the aforementioned millennial geeks, that Pixar should grow up with them. The original Cars was met with scorn from the first teaser, because people expected that now that Pixar had matured with The Incredibles, they should keep maturing, keep pushing the envelope, keep moving forward. To these people, Cars looked like a step BACKWARDS. So a Cars 2 would be even more insulting from this mindset - "Pixar has betrayed its mission statement for easy money, and they've betrayed US too." In short, feelings of betrayal and anger at their childhood heroes, their artistic idols, selling out.I honestly wonder, if Cars 2 had never happened, would people have reacted less harshly to Brenda Chapman's removal from Brave, or the stuff with The Good Dinosaur, or even the cancellation of newt? Well, I agree with some of your post, but it's unrealistic to expect Pixar to continuously mature towards PG-13 and R rated features. Like it or not, family audiences drive the box office for animated films so PG is the sweet spot that this particular format enjoys. If you're spending $200 million+ on an animated film, a PG-13 or R would be a death blow financially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) That post wasn't my actual opinion on Pixar. My true opinion of them is not anywhere near as negative as that. I'm optimistic about Pixar, they've had some stumbles but I don't feel they've really, truly sold out or lost their soul like some seem to.That was just my attempt to summarize the negativity I've seen towards Pixar since Cars 2, and ponder how much of it is a direct consequence OF Cars 2. I just ignored Cars 2 when it came out, and continue to ignore it. I don't believe it was Pixar's shark-jump moment, but a lot of people seem to treat it as such, and approach everything Pixar-related that came after it as somehow tainted.And no, I do not in any way believe Pixar should move toward PG-13 or R, that's ridiculous. I don't think anybody really wants that. But I remember that some people were a little frustrated when The Incredibles was followed by Cars. They loved how Incredibles took risks and explored mature themes and such, and they seemed to want EVERY Pixar movie to build on that from then on. The initial complaints from these people about Cars 1 were that it was too safe, too juvenile, too conventional.Those complaints stopped when Ratatouille came out, but after Cars 2, I know I've heard some lament that Pixar isn't as mature and sophisticated as they were up to 2010? I feel like Cars 2 somehow dragged down Internet opinion of Brave and Monsters University... Edited August 15, 2014 by TServo2049 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I think Pixar have been lucky that they've not had a flop but I do think Disney will try and reduce budgets since the likes of Monsters University and Cars 2 cost $200m, I dread to think how much The Good Dinosaur will cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 New poster for "Toy Story that Time Forgot"http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=120828I forgot this was happening. Poster looks good. I can't wait for it. Stuff like this is what they need to keep doing instead of ever doing TS4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Why do Pixar films have such big budgets? Pixar movies have the most amazing visuals among animated films. Is that one reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Why do Pixar films have such big budgets? Pixar movies have the most amazing visuals among animated films. Is that one reason? I think that is the main reason why. It is why they look so much better than nearly every other animated film. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
