The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[katnisscinnaplex]

If anyone is tracking Dog, I'm seeing ~1,100 shows on Monday in US for a Valentines Day special showing.  These are listed under the main title on Fandango. 

[ThomasNicole]

33 minutes ago, Dragoncaine said:

Good sign that Box Office Pro hasn't adjusted their long-range forecasting in the wake of presales, or does that just mean they haven't factored them in yet?

Presales are pretty much in line with their prediction, so they doesn't need to change it.

 

It's only the first day of course, but 135M seems like a reasonable bet. Let's see the next weeks to know if it can go higher (and how much higher), or lower.

[ZeeSoh]

Moderation : Please take all Uncharted review talks to the Uncharted thread. 

[keysersoze123]

The Batman

MTC2 previews (T - 21) - 26119/516534 357210.74 3393 shows

 

It took a while to run and this is as of 11PM PST yesterday. BW did about 20K in 24 hours. Eternals was way lower. NWH was in stratosphere :-). I would say its not bad. let us see how the PS goes as we build hype with reactions, reviews and tv spots =.

 

[grim22]

3 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

The Batman

MTC2 previews (T - 21) - 26119/516534 357210.74 3393 shows

 

It took a while to run and this is as of 11PM PST yesterday. BW did about 20K in 24 hours. Eternals was way lower. NWH was in stratosphere :-). I would say its not bad. let us see how the PS goes as we build hype with reactions, reviews and tv spots =.

 

Is previews inclusive of Tuesday and Wednesday or only Thursday. Because this is a weird rollout with those additional 2 showings.

[Cooper Legion]

Tues is Imax and Wed is amc investor connect, right? I don’t think MTC2 has much/any tues/wed.

Edited February 11, 2022 by Product Driven Legion

[keysersoze123]

13 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Is previews inclusive of Tuesday and Wednesday or only Thursday. Because this is a weird rollout with those additional 2 showings.

Just thursday. Tuesday there were just 14 shows at MTC2. Mostly sold out(last checked it was around 3200 tickets). Wednesday I have not checked yet for any shows but it will be negligible. 

[grim22]

2 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said:

Tues is Imax and Wed is amc investor connect, right? I don’t think MTC2 has much/any tues/wed.

Is MTC2 Regal? Because they have both in SoCal. Wednesday is Regal RPX, Tuesday is IMAX. If it's Cinemark, then I think they only have Wednesday, not sure.

[charlie Jatinder]

7 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Is MTC2 Regal? Because they have both in SoCal. Wednesday is Regal RPX, Tuesday is IMAX. If it's Cinemark, then I think they only have Wednesday, not sure.

Tracker-ation:

 

Shhhh. Don't make me ban you.

 

Edited February 11, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Product Driven Legion said:

Tues is Imax and Wed is amc investor connect, right? I don’t think MTC2 has much/any tues/wed.

 

No, Wed also has RPX, 4DX and XD showings. Remember, I have no AMCs locally but had a ton of Wed sales to report.

 

 

Edited February 11, 2022 by Porthos

[Inceptionzq]

17 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Denver Preview Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

237

3112

7.62%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

156

3405

4.58%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD 6+ HOURS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
851	851	29007	2.93%	14	187

 

AMCs sold	718
Cinemarks sold	30
Regals sold	58
Harkins sold	45

 

Tuesday: 

Total

951

1428

Wednesday:

Total

216

917

Overall:

Grand Total

2018

31352

 

 

The overall preview sales in the first 6ish hours were 1726 tickets sold.

2.93x Eternals' first 10 hours (27.84M)

2.88x Black Widow's first 7 hours (38.02M)

0.267x NWH’s first 11 hours

The Batman Denver Preview Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

363

3112

11.66%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

206

3405

6.05%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 17HRS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1116	265	29007	3.85%	14	187

 

AMCs sold	942
Cinemarks sold	33
Regals sold	72
Harkins sold	69

 

Tuesday:

Total

966

1428

Wednesday:

Total

314

917

Overall:

Grand Total

2396

31352

On 2/9/2022 at 11:27 AM, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Tuesday Showings(25 hours)

 

Denver: 832(+173) sold in 4 theaters

 

The overall first 24ish hours of sales amount to 2262 tickets sold.

0.266x NWH's first 24 hours(13.3M)

2.91x Eternal's Day 2 sales(27.65M)

2.87x Black Widow's Day 2 sales(37.88M)

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

17 hours ago, PenguinXXR said:

After 6 hours of presales, The Batman is at 166 tickets sold for Thursday and still at 146 for Tuesday. All but 6 Thursday tickets are in the Dolby or IMAX.

Alrighty after 24 hours we have the following numbers. Tuesday remains the same at 146 (IMAX).

 

The Batman - 24HR’s of Presales 

28 showtimes, 215 tickets sold, 195 IMAX/Dolby, 20 Regular
 

I don’t have any 24 hour comps at this point (my earliest is 41.5 hours for NWH @ 2039) buuuuuttt I’m pretty underwhelmed by these numbers, TBH. I suspect an equivalent number of hours VS my NWH comp would be about 13-14% or so (minus early screening. 21% with it). I was hoping for 25-35%. Obviously the early screenings will skew things but the hardcore PLF ratio is also giving me pause.

Edited February 11, 2022 by PenguinXXR

[Inceptionzq]

17 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Megaplex

 

Tuesday(5 showings): 2118/2741 in 5 theaters

Thursday(82 showings): 922/24897 in 15 theaters

Tues+Thurs first 6ish hours: 2196 sold

0.226x NWH's first 11 hours

5.57x Eternals' first 10 hours

1.45x Black Widow T-22 days(5 days of sales)

 

Friday(135 showings): 610/41991 in 15 theaters

0.122x NWH's first 11 hours

3.30x Eternals' first 10 hours

0.724x Black Widow's T-23

 

Saturday(142 showings): 255/43700 in 15 theaters

0.149x NWH's first 11 hours

2.22x Eternals' first 10 hours

 

Sunday(90 showings): 24/29283 in 15 theaters

0.074x NWH's first 11 hours

0.421x Eternals' first 10 hours

The Batman Megaplex

 

Tuesday(5 showings): 2174(+56)/2741 in 5 theaters

Thursday(84 showings): 1167(+245)/25137 in 15 theaters

On 2/9/2022 at 11:27 AM, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Tuesday Showings(25 hours)

Megaplex: 1780(+506) sold in 4 theaters

Tues+Thurs first 24ish hours: 2947 sold

0.207x NWH's first 24 hours

5.21x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Friday(140 showings): 813(+203)/43063 in 15 theaters

0.090x NWH's first 24 hours

2.95x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Saturday(146 showings): 357(+102)/44649 in 15 theaters

0.094x NWH's first 24 hours

2.15x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Sunday(93 showings): 47(+23)/31131 in 15 theaters

0.064x NWH's first 24 hours

0.681x Eternals' first Day 2 sales

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

1 minute ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Megaplex

 

Tuesday(5 showings): 2174(+56)/2741 in 5 theaters

Thursday(84 showings): 1167(+245)/25137 in 15 theaters

Tues+Thurs first 24ish hours: 2947 sold

0.207x NWH's first 24 hours

5.21x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Friday(140 showings): 813(+203)/43063 in 15 theaters

0.090x NWH's first 24 hours

2.95x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Saturday(146 showings): 357(+102)/44649 in 15 theaters

0.094x NWH's first 24 hours

2.15x Eternals' Day 2 sales

 

Sunday(93 showings): 47(+23)/31131 in 15 theaters

0.064x NWH's first 24 hours

0.681x Eternals' first Day 2 sales

The precipitous drop off in sales as the weekend continues is a bit of a concern. To go from 5x Eternals Thursday to less than 3/4 for Sunday is….odd.

 

Obviously I’m not going to read munch into it at this juncture but it is worth noting. 

[Inceptionzq]

17 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Alamo Drafthouse

 

Thursday(220 showings): 4971/31113   ATP: $15.10

0.357x NWH's first 11 hours

 

Friday(332 showings): 4136/47626   ATP: $15.43

0.486x NWH's first 11 hours

 

Saturday(350 showings): 3078/50209   ATP: $15.34

0.591x NWH's first 11 hours

 

Sunday(337 showings): 1129/48084   ATP: $14.93

0.629x NWH's first 11 hours

 

No Tuesday or Wednesday showings here. Given the nature of Drafthouse, I think a stronger comp against NWH is expected. There tends to be more of a rush to get tickets

The Batman Alamo Drafthouse

 

Thursday(220 showings): 5843(+872)/31113   ATP: $15.05

0.281x NWH's first 24 hours

 

Friday(332 showings): 5191(+1055)/47626   ATP: $15.30

0.334x NWH's first 24 hours

 

Saturday(350 showings): 4056(+978)/50209   ATP: $15.06

0.328x NWH's first 24 hours

 

Sunday(337 showings): 1476(+347)/48084   ATP: $14.90

0.301x NWH's first 24 hours

[BruiseCruise]

12 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Batman Denver Preview Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

363

3112

11.66%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

206

3405

6.05%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 17HRS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1116	265	29007	3.85%	14	187

 

AMCs sold	942
Cinemarks sold	33
Regals sold	72
Harkins sold	69

 

Tuesday:

Total

966

1428

Wednesday:

Total

314

917

Overall:

Grand Total

2396

31352

 

The overall first 24ish hours of sales amount to 2262 tickets sold.

0.266x NWH's first 24 hours(13.3M)

2.91x Eternal's Day 2 sales(27.65M)

2.87x Black Widow's Day 2 sales(37.88M)

25.97m previews sounds good to me

[TalismanRing]

NYC Regal (Local) Noon (24 hours)

 

BATMAN

2.11.22 - 24 hours

WED (RPX) - 61/320

THUR (Total) 122/ 4814
           (RPX) - 96/960
           (2D) - 26/3854

 

 

24 Hours

 

SM:
(Total) 1,305/5068
(RPX)   696/960

 

ENDGAME:

2,470/3,737

 

Not 24 hours but Midnight of first day

Shang-Chi:   33/1402

ETERNALS :  91/1753

 

 

[Inceptionzq]

9 minutes ago, PenguinXXR said:

The precipitous drop off in sales as the weekend continues is a bit of a concern. To go from 5x Eternals Thursday to less than 3/4 for Sunday is….odd.

 

Obviously I’m not going to read munch into it at this juncture but it is worth noting. 

Yeah it's a bit weird, but Eternals presales didn't start off as frontloaded. Its Thurs+Fri was 3.58x Sat+Sun, meanwhile NWH was 5.13x and Batman is 4.90x. Which I think makes sense considering people wouldn't be as worried about seeing Eternals ASAP as they would for Spider-Man or Batman.

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 2/10/2022 at 10:30 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-7	Uncharted	Jacksonville	6	46	7,536	168	11	2.23%
		Phoenix	6	21	4,242	170	13	4.01%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,637	139	16	3.82%
	Uncharted Total		19	93	15,415	477	40	3.09%

 

Uncharted comps

TSS - 1.205x (4.94m)

NTTD - .695x (3.62m)

Dune - .580x (2.96m)

Average - 3.84m

 

15 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-19	Batman (Tue)	Jacksonville	2	2	841	363	64	43.16%
		Phoenix	1	1	410	373	15	90.98%
		Raleigh	1	1	151	146	2	96.69%
	Batman (Tue) Total		4	4	1,402	882	81	62.91%
T-20	Batman (Wed)	Jacksonville	5	8	1,166	274	274	23.50%
		Phoenix	2	2	318	148	148	46.54%
	Batman (Wed) Total		7	10	1,484	422	422	28.44%
T-21	Batman (Thu)	Jacksonville	7	120	19,813	376	376	1.90%
		Phoenix	6	107	17,555	588	588	3.35%
		Raleigh	28	102	11,415	604	604	5.29%
	Batman (Thu) Total		41	329	48,783	1,568	1,568	3.21%
Total			41	343	51,669	2,872	2,071	5.56%

Not too bad, but I feel like I could've just looked at the PLF and 7pm shows to get most of those sales.  Here's what Spider-man looked like at the 9hr mark.

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-17	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	72	12,424	2,330	2,330	18.75%
		Phoenix	6	55	10,267	3,190	3,190	31.07%
		Raleigh	7	46	6,502	2,290	2,290	35.22%
	Spider-Man Total		20	173	29,193	7,810	7,810	26.75%

 

Clearly not in the same ballpark, but the showtime difference is massive.  First run took nearly an hour with so many shows; I probably won't be able to do that every day.  I'll try to get a run at Santikos in the morning for a similar time comp for Spider-man.  Showtime report will hopefully be up tomorrow as well if I have time.  

 

Batman Thu Breakdown

PLF - 739

Standard - 829

 

Matinee - 123

Regular - 1,445

 

Sales - $22,493.62

ATP - $14.35

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-18	Batman (Tue)	Jacksonville	2	2	841	392	29	46.61%
		Phoenix	1	1	410	382	9	93.17%
		Raleigh	1	1	151	146	0	96.69%
	Batman (Tue) Total		4	4	1,402	920	38	65.62%
T-19	Batman (Wed)	Jacksonville	5	8	1,166	320	46	27.44%
		Phoenix	2	2	318	169	21	53.14%
	Batman (Wed) Total		7	10	1,484	489	67	32.95%
T-20	Batman (Thu)	Jacksonville	7	120	19,813	452	76	2.28%
		Phoenix	6	107	17,555	704	116	4.01%
		Raleigh	28	102	11,415	688	84	6.03%
	Batman (Thu) Total		41	329	48,783	1,844	276	3.78%
T-3	Dog (EA)	Jacksonville	4	4	318	33	33	10.38%
		Phoenix	3	3	303	21	21	6.93%
		Raleigh	5	5	522	49	49	9.39%
	Dog (EA) Total		12	12	1,143	103	103	9.01%
T-6	Dog	Jacksonville	6	15	1,440	29	29	2.01%
		Phoenix	6	15	1,813	6	6	0.33%
		Raleigh	8	16	1,644	11	11	0.67%
	Dog Total		20	46	4,897	46	46	0.94%
T-6	Uncharted	Jacksonville	6	46	7,536	191	23	2.53%
		Phoenix	6	21	4,242	189	19	4.46%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,637	151	12	4.15%
	Uncharted Total		19	93	15,415	531	54	3.44%

 

Big update, even after dropping three movies.  I only ran Batman again to compare to my first Eternals run (23 hr).   

 

Uncharted comps

TSS - 1.25x (5.123m)

(Missed T-6 updates for NTTD and Dune)

 

Batman vs Eternals 23hr

Thu only - 2.42x (22.96m)

All previews - 4.26x (40.5m)

 

Batman 23hr vs Spider-Man 33hr

Thu only - .131x (6.54m)

All previews - .23x (11.53m)

 

Not sure how to parse this as Tue & Wed shows won't add much more but they need to factor in somehow.  

 

Time	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
23hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	47	7,996	296	296	3.70%
		Phoenix	6	35	5,949	230	230	3.87%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,078	237	237	7.70%
	Eternals Total		19	108	17,023	763	763	4.48%

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
33hr	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	89	15,195	4,117	1,787	27.09%
		Phoenix	6	84	12,833	5,941	2,751	46.29%
		Raleigh	8	68	8,285	4,049	1,759	48.87%
	Spider-Man Total		21	241	36,313	14,107	6,297	38.85%

[grim22]

1 hour ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

 

Not sure how to parse this as Tue & Wed shows won't add much more but they need to factor in somehow.  

 

Personally, I would just comp Thursday, and then add about 4M to the comp (Tuesday will likely be a bit more than 2M, and Wednesday a bit less than that, so 4M between the 2 days sounds right)