The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[katnisscinnaplex]

8 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
She Said	T-0	Jax	5	12	0	10	1,095	0.91%
		Phx	5	11	6	14	813	1.72%
		Ral	6	13	3	15	785	1.91%
	Total		16	36	9	39	2,693	1.45%
The Menu	T-0	Jax	4	10	9	52	966	5.38%
		Phx	6	19	18	87	1,935	4.50%
		Ral	8	26	34	135	2,063	6.54%
	Total		18	55	61	274	4,964	5.52%

 

The Menu T-0 comps

 - Amsterdam - 1.584x (871k)

 - Crawdads - .284x (567k)

 - Antlers - 2.322x (859k)

 - Men - 1.815x (768k)

 - X - 1.229x (541k)

 

She Said T-0 comps

 - Elvis - .034x (108k)

 - House of Gucci - .086x (112k)

 - King Richard - .062x (121k)

 - Stillwater - .582x (163k)

 - Respect - .26x (169k)

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
She Said	1-Hr	Jax	5	12	7	17	1,095	1.55%
		Phx	5	11	7	21	813	2.58%
		Ral	6	13	15	30	785	3.82%
	Total		16	36	29	68	2,693	2.53%
The Menu	1-Hr	Jax	4	10	47	99	966	10.25%
		Phx	6	22	43	130	2,118	6.14%
		Ral	8	26	75	210	2,063	10.18%
	Total		18	58	165	439	5,147	8.53%

 

The Menu T-1 hr comps

 - Amsterdam - 1.614x (888k)

 - Crawdads - .339x (679k)

 - Antlers - 2.31x (855k)

 - Men - 1.876x (794k)

 - X - 1.28x (563k)

All horror movies - 1.05m

All comedy movies - 1.06m

All R movies - 998k

All movies - 934k

 

Expecting around 900k for true previews.  EA could be around 200k so somewhere around 1.1m total.

 

She Said T-1 hr comps

 - Elvis - .043x (136k)

 - House of Gucci - .101x (132k)

 - Stillwater - .507x (142k)

 - Respect - .28x (182k)

All drama movies - 120k

All 5pm previews - 155k

All R movies - 155k

All movies - 145k

 

Probably not getting reported, but I'd go with 150k.

[Eric is Quiet]

19 hours ago, Eric Killmonger said:

She Said Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	23	48	2511	1.91%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 13

 

Comp

0.229x of Dear Evan Hansen T-1 (183K)

0.787x of The Last Duel T-1 (275K)

0.181x of West Side Story T-1 (145K)

0.183x of Death on the Nile T-1 (201K)

0.213x of Dog T-1 (269K)

0.146x of Crawdads T-1 (335K)

0.539x of Bros T-1 (270K)

0.224x of Amsterdam T-1 (123K)

She Said Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	23	79	2511	3.15%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 31

 

Comp

0.252x of Dear Evan Hansen (202K)

0.806x of The Last Duel (282K)

0.205x of West Side Story (164K)

0.206x of Death on the Nile (227K)

0.286x of Dog (361K)

0.137x of Crawdads (316K)

0.482x of Bros (241K)

0.329x of Amsterdam (181K)

 

Honestly not convinced they'll even report previews for this film at this rate.

[Eric is Quiet]

19 hours ago, Eric Killmonger said:

The Menu Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	43	345	5336	6.47%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 86

 

Comp

1.312x of Old T-1 (1.97M)

5.227x of The Night House T-1 (1.36M)

4.012x of Antlers T-1 (1.48M)

2.851x of X T-1 (1.25M)

4.600x of Firestarter T-1 (1.72M)

2.518x of Men T-1 (1.06M)

3.317x of The Invitation T-1 (2.57M)

1.307x of Barbarian T-1 (1.11M)

4.059x of Prey for the Devil T-1 (2.68M)

The Menu Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	43	545	5336	10.21%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 200

 

Comp

0.638x of Old (957K)

4.823x of The Night House (1.25M)

3.759x of Antlers (1.39M)

2.280x of X (1M)

4.225x of Firestarter (1.58M)

2.206x of Men (933K)

1.866x of The Invitation (1.45M)

1.131x of Barbarian (961K)

2.946x of Prey for the Devil (1.94M)

 

I guess double digits are still possible. Which is nice.

[filmlover]

Sad that She Said is looking at stunningly low numbers, but not at all surprised. Universal pretty much left it to die with barely any marketing, hard for any movie to make any kind of money when hardly anyone knows it exists.

Edited November 17, 2022 by filmlover

[ringedmortality]

13 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Sad that She Said is looking at stunningly low numbers, but not at all surprised. Universal pretty much left it to die with barely any marketing, hard for any movie to make any kind of money when hardly anyone knows it exists.

 

After the lukewarm reactions out of NYFF who could blame them. Not like it was gonna be a big Oscar thing and they already have Fabelmans on their plate. 

[ringedmortality]

I know this isn’t technically the place to talk about it, but what’s gonna be number 2 this weekend? The Chosen or The Menu?

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

 

After the lukewarm reactions out of NYFF who could blame them. Not like it was gonna be a big Oscar thing and they already have Fabelmans on their plate. 

I dunno, the fact it's gonna make like 1/3 of Bombshell as someone said earlier is pretty darn rough. If not for Ticket to Paradise, Universal would be having a brutal fourth quarter between this, Bros (both well-reviewed movies that were given bare minimum marketing campaigns), and the miserable legs of Halloween Ends. We'll see if The Fabelmans (will it even make as much as West Side Story?) and Violent Night can reverse their recent misfortunes.

[Tinalera]

Im looking at these films that are being discussed right now, and their box office take, and its cool to be reading and studying these films. I just see that Avatar pre-sales coming over the horizon, and when it hits, the forum will hit crazyville. In the meantime its nice to see the quiet talk and discussion while we can.

 

A calm before the storm if you will

 

[Flopped]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

I dunno, the fact it's gonna make like 1/3 of Bombshell as someone said earlier is pretty darn rough. If not for Ticket to Paradise, Universal would be having a brutal fourth quarter between this, Bros (both well-reviewed movies that were given bare minimum marketing campaigns), and the miserable legs of Halloween Ends. We'll see if The Fabelmans (will it even make as much as West Side Story?) and Violent Night can reverse their recent misfortunes.

 

It reeks of phoniness. Most people are aware that it's an industry full of shitty people making a movie about a shitty man and acting holier than thou. 

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, Flopped said:

 

It reeks of phoniness. Most people are aware that it's an industry full of shitty people making a movie about a shitty man and acting holier than thou. 

Cool. Those who devote so much time and energy into harping on "Hollywood being full of hypocrites" don't seem like folks who watch any movies or TV shows to begin with. As they say, put your money where your mouth is.

Edited November 18, 2022 by filmlover

[GOGODanca]

how many years until original drama's just stop getting made for theatrical releases?

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

how many years until original drama's just stop getting made for theatrical releases?

They'll continue making them until they find something that sticks. Everyone was eager to declare the adult drama completely dead when First Man and Widows flopped four years ago and yet they're still at it trying.

[filmlover]

Bones and All is expanding to 2,500 theaters next weekend according to The Numbers. Legit shocked tbh (that PTA is gonna be ugly).

[CaptNathanBrittles]

4 hours ago, filmlover said:

Sad that She Said is looking at stunningly low numbers, but not at all surprised. Universal pretty much left it to die with barely any marketing, hard for any movie to make any kind of money when hardly anyone knows it exists.

 

They could have given it a $100m marketing budget - they still won't convince anyone to watch a movie on this subject. It just shows how out of touch people green-lighting movies are.

[filmlover]

Meanwhile, looking around at local ticket sales for next weekend's openers, Strange World's actually seem...not too awful? Especially when it went on sale the other day. If it manages to match the $40M 5-day of Encanto last year with notably less going for it even in a better environment I'm pretty sure that would be seen as a (relative, of course) win.

[John2015]

1 hour ago, GOGODanca said:

how many years until original drama's just stop getting made for theatrical releases?

We can't say that original adult drama is died if "The Menu" can open higher than $10 million. 

(And then, theatrical release can help adult drama to do better on VOD, just like what happened to "The Northman")

 

That said, "The Menu" and "She Said" are both original adult dramas that are chasing for the same target audience,; it would be better if they don't open wide on the same date.

[filmlover]

11 minutes ago, John2015 said:

We can't say that original adult drama is died if "The Menu" can open higher than $10 million. 

(And then, theatrical release can help adult drama to do better on VOD, just like what happened to "The Northman")

 

That said, "The Menu" and "She Said" are both original adult dramas that are chasing for the same target audience,; it would be better if they don't open wide on the same date.

The Menu is looking to do semi-decent because it's being sold as somewhat of a horror/thriller. Searchlight has probably given it the most aggressive marketing campaign out of anything since the Disney acquisition in early 2019.

[Flopped]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Cool. Those who devote so much time and energy into harping on "Hollywood being full of hypocrites" don't seem like folks who watch any movies or TV shows to begin with. As they say, put your money where your mouth is.

They're watching Yellowstone! 

[Verrows]

1 hour ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

 

They could have given it a $100m marketing budget - they still won't convince anyone to watch a movie on this subject. It just shows how out of touch people green-lighting movies are.

Absolutely. It's really weird. 

[Verrows]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Meanwhile, looking around at local ticket sales for next weekend's openers, Strange World's actually seem...not too awful? Especially when it went on sale the other day. If it manages to match the $40M 5-day of Encanto last year with notably less going for it even in a better environment I'm pretty sure that would be seen as a (relative, of course) win.

That would be impressive, given Encanto felt way more present than Strange World does right now. It feels like SW barely exists