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Btw, Frozen 2 will also start on Wednesday instead of Thursday. A new trend for Disney movies maybe?

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1 hour ago, George Parr said:

Btw, Frozen 2 will also start on Wednesday instead of Thursday. A new trend for Disney movies maybe?

certainly seems like it, but I think that has been know for about a month or so...

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I already got my tickets for SW IX! 3D IMAX in Berlin. 

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42 minutes ago, Bart Allen said:

For any Germans, does anyone know if Joker received a Silver Bogey Award yet for admissions? As it already received the standard and silver tiers:

 

http://beta.blickpunktfilm.de/details/444639

It must have reached it yesterday. It was including Sunday at 1.985.065 admissions.

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Joker

709.326

719

987

1.985.065

18.518.530

-16

2

2

Maleficent 2

293.053

572

512

293.053

2.958.876

-

1

3

Ich war noch niemals in New York

112.782

486

232

121.820

1.084.667

-

1

4

Shaun the Sheep 2

79.570

693

115

600.716

4.121.869

+12

4

5

Gemini Man

77.172

549

141

501.228

5.145.869

-23

3

6

Dem Horizont so nah

63.969

378

169

213.358

1.773.446

-25

2

7

Angry Birds 2

60.522

607

100

601.103

4.251.334

+4

5

8

Abominable

59.983

537

112

418.254

3.028.025

+5

4

9

Dora and the Lost City of Gold

55.177

358

154

136.272

942.595

+4

2

10

Parasite

52.567

105

501

67.568

553.992

-

1

11

7. Kogustaki Mucize

43.187

47

919

68.925

603.383

+180

2

12

Deutschstunde

31.008

167

186

170.949

1.480.948

-14

3

13

Eine ganz heiße Nummer 2

30.389

240

127

189.481

1.534.405

-17

3

14

Systemsprenger

30.264

404

75

356.918

2.852.754

-23

5

15

Downton Abbey

28.427

381

75

584.468

5.282.107

-37

5

16

It 2

27.345

326

84

1.851.059

18.682.305

-39

7

17

The Lion King

25.981

328

79

5.472.693

50.353.261

-9

14

18

The White Crow

13.248

148

90

136.320

1.157.492

-19

4

19

Lis Invisibles

12.626

86

147

40.214

313.282

-11

2

20

Rambo - Last Blood

12.030

285

42

405.878

3.607.743

-51

5

Very nice overall weekend; super hold from Joker (in Austria, the drop was even slightly better) and Maleficent 2 as well as Parasite had ok openings (expansion coming?). Domestic musical comedy Ich war noch niemals in New York topped 100k but was definitely on the lower end of expectations.

Next weekend: The latest Terminator movie hits theaters; frankly I don't know what to expect, the franchise has a very unhealthy reek by now but with the original cast maybe 300k are possible (though I doubt it). Also opening: The Addams Family plus two other CGI movies … good scheduling here, haha. And Brittany Runs a Marathon is the kind of movie that has sleeper potential if it can generate some WOM.

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Thursday numbers:

 

#1 Joker 67k (-42%) €610k/$677k - worse than I hoped for... with last weeks IM it'd get to 414k WE. Hope it can be higher.

 

#2 Terminator 25k // €230k/$255k - worst OD for the franchise since the first (Genisys had 40k OD)

 

#3 Maleficent 23,5k (-53%) €225k/$250k

#4 Ich war noch niemals... 18,5k (+23%) €160k/$178k - that is a nice surprise

#5 Addams Family 10k // €75k/$83k

 

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1st Trend:

 

Joker 475k (-33%) 2,67M - IM would increase from 6,17x to 7,09x.

 

Maleficent2 175k (-40%) 545k

Terminator 175k

Ich war noch niemals... 130k (+15%/+7%) 302,5k

Addams Family 95k

Parasite 52,5k (-0%/-22%) 145k

 

7. Kogustaki Mucize 52,5k (+22%) 140k - I don't know anything about this turkish movie but it seems to have great WOM among its audience. It opened with 15k in 31 theatres, increased 180% to 43k (47 theatres) and has another increase now. Normally turkish movies tend to be very frontloaded here.

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23 hours ago, Aristis said:

1st Trend:

 

Joker 475k (-33%) 2,67M - IM would increase from 6,17x to 7,09x.

 

Maleficent2 175k (-40%) 545k

Terminator 175k

Ich war noch niemals... 130k (+15%/+7%) 302,5k

Addams Family 95k

Parasite 52,5k (-0%/-22%) 145k

 

7. Kogustaki Mucize 52,5k (+22%) 140k - I don't know anything about this turkish movie but it seems to have great WOM among its audience. It opened with 15k in 31 theatres, increased 180% to 43k (47 theatres) and has another increase now. Normally turkish movies tend to be very frontloaded here.

 

21 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

That's beyond bad for the Terminator movie ...

 

2nd Trend by insidekino.de:

Joker: 440k (-38%)*

Maleficent: 175k (-40%)

Terminator: 120k (OUCH)

New York: 105k (-7% / -14%)

Addams Family: 95k

7. Kogustaki M.: 52.5k (+22%)

Parasite: 50k (-5% / -26%)

Dem Horizont so nah: 42.5k (-33%)

Bayala: 35k

Gemini Man: 32.5k (-58%)

Shaun: 30k (-62%)

 

*Don't think it will get to 4M but will easily get past 3M.

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31 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

What happened. Is it too sunny this weekend?

 

Could well be a reason. This weekend is very sunny for October, though starting tomorrow, it gets colder.

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35 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

What happened. Is it too sunny this weekend?

Some thought the T6 number must be a typo...but unfortunately it's not.

The family films did not decrease which speaks against the weather theory but because most other films also lost several 10k admissions it could still be a factor and maybe Mark_G already calculated with lower multipliers for the family films in the first trend.
It was today indeed very sunny in most parts of Germany and tomorrow this will continue in Bavaria but in other states it's said to be mixed. 
At least next weekend is predicted to become way colder and changeable. So maybe Terminator will  - like several other films in recent weeks - have good holds.

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Does anyone have any articles on whether Joke has won the Silver or Gold (or above) Bogey Awards in Germany?

  • Titanium: Viewed by ten million people.
  • Platinum: Five million people within the first fifty days of release.
  • Gold: Three million people within thirty days.
  • Silver: Two million people within twenty days.
  • Bronze: One million people within 10 days.
  • Bogey Award: One million people, or 1000 people per copy, with a minimum of 25 copies, within first ten days.

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13 hours ago, Bart Allen said:

Does anyone have any articles on whether Joke has won the Silver or Gold (or above) Bogey Awards in Germany?

  • Titanium: Viewed by ten million people.
  • Platinum: Five million people within the first fifty days of release.
  • Gold: Three million people within thirty days.
  • Silver: Two million people within twenty days.
  • Bronze: One million people within 10 days.
  • Bogey Award: One million people, or 1000 people per copy, with a minimum of 25 copies, within first ten days.

Yeah it got the Bronze award (one million in 10 days and more than 1000 people per copy) and should have gotten the silver one by now but they might not have written an article about that yet.

If it gets to Gold it would tie with TLK and Avengers for this year with the important difference that TLK got to 5M on its 53rd day and endgame on day 59 or so, while Joker will fall short by most likely a million.

 

 

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3rd trend is up at insidekino, IwnniNY with quite a few drops over all these trends, going from 130k to 90k now:

 

#1 Joker: 450k

#2 Maleficent: 175k

#3 Terminator: 130k

#4 Addams Family: 105k

#5 New York: 90k

#6 7. Kogustaki M.: 50k

#7 Parasite: 47.5k

#8 Dem Horizont so nah: 40k

#9 Bayala: 35k

#10 Gemini Man: 35k

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

 

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Joker

450.797

753

599

2.645.153

24.582.847

-36

3

2

Maleficent 2

183.785

580

317

553.894

5.483.576

-37

2

3

Terminator - Dark Fate

134.102

486

276

134.102

1.279.061

-

1

4

Ich war noch niemals in New York

92.004

504

183

266.538

2.331.914

-18

2

5

The Addams Family

88.779

481

185

105.713

799.419

-

1

6

7. Kogustaki Mucize

52.306

76

688

138.421

1.213.034

+21

3

7

Parasite

47.000

121

388

139.458

1.223.534

-11

2

8

Dem Horizont so nah

42.575

378

113

280.534

2.320.062

-33

3

9

Shaun the Sheep 2

42.113

672

63

661.643

4.519.714

-47

5

10

Bayala

36.904

391

94

36.904

253.200

-

1

11

Gemini Man

36.084

372

97

558.465

5.671.832

-53

4

12

Angry Birds 2

31.493

534

59

646.708

4.558.691

-48

6

13

Dora and the Golden City

28.858

381

76

178.976

1.227.103

-48

3

14

Abominable

28.291

511

55

461.104

3.312.337

-53

5

15

Systemsprenger

24.295

376

65

407.721

3.234.880

-20

6

16

Deutschstunde

22.940

205

112

209.172

1.799.109

-26

4

17

Eine ganz heiße Nummer 2.0

20.085

175

115

221.160

1.780.943

-34

4

18

Downton Abbey

17.025

305

56

616.128

5.551.731

-40

6

19

It 2

15.038

274

55

1.873.522

18.902.654

-45

8

20

The Lion King

13.709

264

52

5.493.717

50.516.636

-47

15

 

 

Not as good as we hoped but an ok weekend except for the openers which disappointed once more - the latest Terminator movie hitting an all-time low for the series and The Addams Family only with 5 digits. There might be an oversaturation of family CGI atm …

 

Next weekend: Of course there'll be some horror but the biggest opener should be domestic comedy Das perfekte Geheimnis; probably far from FJG numbers but #1 seems easily possible.

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21 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Next weekend: Of course there'll be some horror but the biggest opener should be domestic comedy Das perfekte Geheimnis; probably far from FJG numbers but #1 seems easily possible.

I hope for something like Joker + Das perfekte Geheimnis > 1M. Maybe Joker can stay close to 400k, the InsideKino prediction is around 380k (-15%).

I would be great if the Geheimnis could have a big opening closer to 1M - we could really need this after last WE being down compared to last year to still have a chance for 120M+ admissions for 2019...

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59 minutes ago, Aristis said:

I hope for something like Joker + Das perfekte Geheimnis > 1M. Maybe Joker can stay close to 400k, the InsideKino prediction is around 380k (-15%).

I would be great if the Geheimnis could have a big opening closer to 1M - we could really need this after last WE being down compared to last year to still have a chance for 120M+ admissions for 2019...

In Insidekino it said that 3.175m visitor with 383k weekend, so it means that they estimate 147k for Mon-Wed right ? 

Only 32% drop from last week..

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Going by presales, Das perfekte Geheimnis has a good but not exceptional opening weekend coming in Austria (but I suppose it's more for the German audience anyway)

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