Quigley Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 42 minutes ago, Giesi said: I would say the whole genre is slowly going down, the oversaturation hurts superhero movies! We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, Quigley said: We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre. Fatigue will set in soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Quigley said: We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre. I think Giesi was talking about the German market ... superheroes were never big here except for some notable exceptions (197x Superman, 200x Spiderman) and the market feels, indeed, oversaturated. My son is 25 but neither he nor his friends are very excited about the stuff any longer. I told him I saw Civil War and he replied that he hadn't known it was in release alrady ... that's oversaturation I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: I think Giesi was talking about the German market ... superheroes were never big here except for some notable exceptions (197x Superman, 200x Spiderman) and the market feels, indeed, oversaturated. My son is 25 but neither he nor his friends are very excited about the stuff any longer. I told him I saw Civil War and he replied that he hadn't known it was in release alrady ... that's oversaturation I'd say. Ok I see. So it's basically that they're not popular in Germany, which is true since I can't recall any SH film making more than $10M OW (I think Age of Ultron is the biggest with $9M). Saturation is not a problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Quigley said: Ok I see. So it's basically that they're not popular in Germany, which is true since I can't recall any SH film making more than $10M OW (I think Age of Ultron is the biggest with $9M). Saturation is not a problem though. Spiderman made $11M OW Spiderman 2 $12.5M Dark Knight $10.4M Edited May 20, 2016 by Aristis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Jepp, after a pretty grey and rainy week the sun appeared here in Bavaria in the late afternoon too. And the weekend weather is said to be sunny in most parts of Germany and Austria which is nice or not ;). (I really smiled when Aristis posted a comment a few days ago about how he hopes for bad weather and his family thinks he's crazy, because this sounds familiar to me.) Maybe The Witch - which is projected to have around 40k admissions - is a bit too special for a bigger audience. At least the reviews from critics and moviegoers are really good. But I don't know if this will translate into good legs. And the film started in only 173 theaters. Bad Neighbors 2 and The First Avenger - Civil War should be #3 and #4 with each 90k moviegoers and The Jungle Book will become #5 with 60k. That's ok charts-wise but it's also a minus of more than 50% for each film, not good. Edited May 20, 2016 by el sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) 2. Trend X-Men 275k Angry Birds 160k (-50% without and -55% with previews) BN 100k (a bit less than 50% drop) CA 90k (-60%) TJB 60k (>-50%) Since the lowest movie listed has 25k admissions, Zoo is probably below that mark. Harsh drop again (>-50%) but expected with good weather ahead. Edited May 21, 2016 by Aristis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 yep, family seats are a hard sell this weekend. Neighbors2 is the only release in the top5 which is doing at least decent business (The Witch is not too shabby too, good PTA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH84 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 X-Men 225k AB 125k BN2 80k CW 70k JB 45k Ouch! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Lol, the worst opening of the trilogy for X-MA! Horrendous numbers, especially the drops for Angry Birds and CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Damn, Civil War is dropping like a stone everywhere... I think it won't make 1.2 billion worldwide anymore, which is disappointing for a movie featuring all these characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 37 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said: Damn, Civil War is dropping like a stone everywhere... I think it won't make 1.2 billion worldwide anymore, which is disappointing for a movie featuring all these characters. Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, pepsa said: Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame I agree. It was miles better than AOU and IM3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A District 3 Engineer Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, pepsa said: Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame #superheroFatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviesRus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, pepsa said: Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame Better received doesn't always translate to bigger numbers. AoU was easily the more digestible movie for international audiences I think. Honestly, Iron Man 3 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) With Monday every movie is a bit up! XM-A 240k AB 145k (-56%) BN2 85k (-56%) CA 75k (-66%) TJB 50k (-60%) Edited May 23, 2016 by Aristis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) @IndustriousAngel What is the interest Warcraft movies in Germany? ? Edited May 24, 2016 by abra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarvelandDC Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Superhero fatigue? Civil War has already made $1.054 billion worldwide and people are disappointed at that number? When will this insanity stop!?!? For the people's who are saying this is an avengers movie, let me tell you that it is not. The avengers always assembled to face some world ending threat. Where is the world ending threat in this movie? This movie is a Captain America movie, which focus on him and his friend Bucky. Also for those who are interested - Anthony Mackie (Falcon) explains why this a Captain America movie and not an avengers movie. That’s what I thought at first, when I first read it, but not at all. It really plays well with the storyline of Cap, and how he’s evolved into his own man, him doing his own thing, everybody coming together to fight for the common good of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 X-Men - Apocalypse 213.229 630 338 239.031 2.670.177 - 1 2 Angry Birds 145.412 708 205 742.509 5.792.375 -56 2 3 Neighbors 2 87.322 565 155 568.446 4.635.846 -55 3 4 Captain America - Civil War 74.675 569 131 1.559.452 17.469.864 -67 4 5 The Jungle Book 48.939 613 80 1.639.082 15.820.145 -62 6 6 The Witch 29.313 172 170 29.775 260.919 - 1 7 Rico, Oskar und der Diebstahlstein 20.176 658 31 233.296 1.443.131 -57 4 8 Zootopia 19.411 509 38 3.619.272 29.547.038 -56 12 9 How to Be Single 17.385 325 53 951.727 7.833.689 -56 7 10 Wie Männer über Frauen reden 11.655 298 39 88.117 690.069 -71 2 11 Le Goût des merveilles 10.945 238 46 484.405 3.572.653 -50 11 12 A Hologram for the King 10.660 286 37 170.276 1.377.744 -65 4 13 Monsieur Chocolat 10.337 93 111 13.151 104.313 - 1 14 En Man Som Heter Ove 9.458 328 29 359.061 2.732.862 -59 7 15 Comme un avion 8.077 55 147 13.742 99.505 - 1 16 Junges Licht 5.146 46 112 24.444 201.060 -54 2 17 Triple 9 4.712 163 29 72.725 540.946 -72 3 18 Peggy Guggenheim: Art Addict 4.565 56 82 28.863 223.950 -51 3 19 A Bigger Splash 4.332 93 47 48.659 372.549 -66 3 20 Mängelexemplar 4.216 120 35 33.094 262.576 -72 2 Horrible, horrible weekend. It's hard to gauge X-Men's opening against the background of the overall depressed business - of course, it might have done better under better circumstances but I don't see a big rebound next weekend, so we can safely assume this won't get anywhere near 1mil total. Which leads us to next weekend: Warcraft and Alice2 are the big openers. Of course, Alice1 was a big success in Avatar's 3D tracks, but that effect is long past - neither is Johnny Depp a BO magnet anymore. Still, I'd give Alice the edge over Warcraft which seems to have very little buzz (the trailer got more laughs than "oooh!"s). Both CA:CW and X.Men will get hurt by Warcraft though, even if it opens to only 200k - and the same goes for family stuff with Alice - even if it completely underperforms (say, <300k), it will still hurt AB, JB and Zootopia. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 5 hours ago, MarvelandDC said: Superhero fatigue? Civil War has already made $1.054 billion worldwide and people are disappointed at that number? When will this insanity stop!?!? For the people's who are saying this is an avengers movie, let me tell you that it is not. The avengers always assembled to face some world ending threat. Where is the world ending threat in this movie? This movie is a Captain America movie, which focus on him and his friend Bucky. Also for those who are interested - Anthony Mackie (Falcon) explains why this a Captain America movie and not an avengers movie. I disagree. While it is technically a Captain America movie, it wasn't presented as one. It was very much marketed as a "group movie" not as Captain America featuring some others. There is also little wrong with being disappointed if a movie has bad drops, and the movie had quite a few of those. Of course it's still a huge success, even Batman vs Superman isn't really a failure in that regard, but it is less than what seemed likely. If Star Wars had opened to ~250 million, held well over the holidays yet somehow ended up 10-20 millions behind Avatar domestically, then that would have been a huge success, but also been disappointing due to extreme drops causing it to suddenly fall flat. It's not impossible for a movie to be very successful yet still being behind what seemed possible with normal legs. Nor is there anything wrong with stating that the legs have not been particularly good. That being said, I don't think there is anything like superhero fatigue currently existing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...