The Revenant | Dec 25 Limited, Jan 8 2016 wide | Opening in select IMAX theaters Jan 14th.

[TalismanRing]

I kind of give all of these directors benefit of the doubt and say that if there is a good final product and it makes it's money, they get a pass.

DOR is especially safe because people bitch about him being bad with people. Yet he pulls Oscar and other award nominations out of actors like no one else in the history of ever. He must be doing something right.

 

 

Eh, he's not exactly William Wyler.

 

Unlike DOR or Kinski he never physically assaulted anyone but he drove many to tears and hysteria with his re-takes and perfectionism (Fincher is his modern day equivilet in this regard). But actors like Bette Davis always came back for more because he was a genius and consistently got brilliant performances from his cast as well as racking up those Oscars and Oscar noms. 

 

Actors will put up with a lot of abuse to be in good and successful movies and work with top tier directors but that doesn't give a director a pass for being a consistently abusive shit.  Other great directors have managed by at least sporadically being decent human beings.

 

“A director must be a policeman, a midwife, a psychoanalyst, a sycophant and a bastard.”

—Billy Wilder

Edited July 27, 2015 by TalismanRing

[Ethan Hunt]

Tom Hardy seems to knock out somebody in the set of every movie he does. No surprise. Except on Lawless. In that one he got knocked out by Shia

God bless Shia

[TalismanRing]

God bless Shia

 

Shia is bugshit crazy.

[MrPink]

Tom Hardy is a really puzzling actor to me. In many of his roles u cant understand wtf hes saying.

 

Sometimes his accents get in the way, but I don't need to look further than Locke, Inception, or Warrior to see what he's capable of. And his eyes! His eyes can express so much.

[The Futurist]

The puppy was the easily the best part of The Drop.

[dashrendar44]

Tom Hardy gave his all in Bronson, now he just coasts on his mannerisms to do the job.(Granted I still haven't seen Locke to say if he does his usual schtick mumbling and grunting his lines with an odd accent while strutting oddly like a bear that just got out of hibernation)

 

And Innaritu's love for snuff and torture porn is nothing new but indulging the madness romancizing abuse for the sake of ART is a plague. An abusive asshole is not less of an abusive asshole just because he happens to make good movies in the end.

Edited July 27, 2015 by MADash Rendar

[The Futurist]

Tom Hardy gave his all in Bronson, now he just coasts on his mannerisms to do the job.(Granted I still haven't seen Locke to say if he does his usual schtick mumbling and grunting his lines with an odd accent while strutting oddly like a bear that just got out of hibernation)

 

And Innaritu's love for snuff and torture porn is nothing new but indulging the madness romancizing abuse for the sake of ART is a plague. An abusive asshole is not less of an abusive asshole just because he happens to make good movies in the end.

 

cough...James Cameron ...cough

 

 

[grim22]

BOM changes dates again

 

The Revenant

Fox

1/8/16

12/25/15

 

[TStechnij]

BOM changes dates again

The Revenant Fox 1/8/16 12/25/15

Thank goodness! This is on such a tight schedule now.

[Hatebox]

Tom Hardy gave his all in Bronson, now he just coasts on his mannerisms to do the job.(Granted I still haven't seen Locke to say if he does his usual schtick mumbling and grunting his lines with an odd accent while strutting oddly like a bear that just got out of hibernation)

 

Check it out, he's good. He puts on a Welsh accent because him and the director thought it made him sound more calm and measured while all around him turns to shit.

[dashrendar44]

Check it out, he's good. He puts on a Welsh accent because him and the director thought it made him sound more calm and measured while all around him turns to shit.

 

Thanks, I'll give a try this weekend.

[Dementeleus]

Check it out, he's good. He puts on a Welsh accent because him and the director thought it made him sound more calm and measured while all around him turns to shit.

 

Also, there's an underlying Welsh/English vibe that plays nicely given the various circumstances. Check out David Thomson's review:

 

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117506/locke-tom-hardy-steven-knight-best-new-film-2014

 

The Welsh take enormous and justified pride in their voice (though they prefer to seem a modest people). It is a small country of choirs, many of them male and based—once upon a time—in the mining communities that were decimated by English rationalism. The Welsh love to sing, and they speak as if song was the next option. Wales is a country of hills, mountains, meadows and vales, very green. (The sun doesn’t shine too much—because that could hurt your eyes.) But there is a feeling that the voice of the country has been kept moist, fresh, supple, and suggestive by the rain, as much as by the old influence of church and chapel, and by the smothered anger at the English for being such foul, bloody, superior shits. So the Welsh voice is gentle, musical, lilting, soft, insinuating, a little fussy, and so very suggestive that, as you are beguiled by it, you may not immediately pick up the steely strength in it, the veiled stubbornness, the anger, and the amazement that there are idiots (especially in the United Kingdom) who do not understand that spiritually, metaphysically and in matters of order the Welsh are supreme.

[Dementeleus]

How to Treat Your Film Crew:

https://storify.com/tonyszhou/eric

[BadAtGender]

How to Treat Your Film Crew:

https://storify.com/tonyszhou/eric

 

This one is great:

 

Eric Heisserer @HIGHzurrer

I really really don't like how some use the idea of pursuing art as an excuse to be sociopaths to everyone else.

11:06 AM - 28 Jul 2015

 

Related to that, I remember in a discussion on another forum many years ago which brought up the problems with the idea of the auteur. That there is something intrinsic about the person that should be lauded rather than the creative output. It seems especially pervasive in movies, where directors can get away with a LOT, but it's okay because the films they do are so great.

 

There's a big difference between driving hard to get a strong performance or whatnot and just being a terrible person. I wonder if those sorts watch Whiplash and think "Yes! That is how you have to be to get a good performance."

[kowhite]

But is the movie good?

[Joel M]

But is the movie good?

 

Who cares? the Tell-all documentary special 10 years from now will be epic anyway.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

Who cares? the Tell-all documentary special 10 years from now will be epic anyway.

It will be directed by Inarritu. 

[TStechnij]

This one is great:

Eric Heisserer @HIGHzurrer

I really really don't like how some use the idea of pursuing art as an excuse to be sociopaths to everyone else.

11:06 AM - 28 Jul 2015

Related to that, I remember in a discussion on another forum many years ago which brought up the problems with the idea of the auteur. That there is something intrinsic about the person that should be lauded rather than the creative output. It seems especially pervasive in movies, where directors can get away with a LOT, but it's okay because the films they do are so great.

There's a big difference between driving hard to get a strong performance or whatnot and just being a terrible person. I wonder if those sorts watch Whiplash and think "Yes! That is how you have to be to get a good performance."

As an oboe performance major, I always wanted a teacher like Fletcher (was that his name?) I respond well to that.

It is also why I quit music education.

Edited July 30, 2015 by TStechnij

[kowhite]

It will be directed by Inarritu.

So how long until the documentary about the documentary about The Revenant?

[grim22]

So how long until the documentary about the documentary about The Revenant?

 

Well, we are getting a movie based on the book about the making of a movie soon, so a documentary about a documentary doesn't sound so strange