Torontofan Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, Prince Eric said: Because it will start petty fights and flame wars that we don’t need. We have already discussed how racism has impacted the movie’s performance already and have had to lock this thread once yesterday. We don’t need to do it again. I think the question needs to be asked... Is maybe this movie generally appeals to African American audience ? Polls showed a very black driven audience in America. The country's where the movie flopped those countries dont have such audiences. Nothing to do with racism but just simple demographics? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Quinn Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, ZattMurdock said: The particularity here is that I’m actually surprised by how well it’s doing in the US. It had a lot against it and it’s doing well. I just don’t think that laughing at the film’s performance in South America outside Brazil is fair without understanding context. We all know that racism exists, but there is a lot of disinformation being spread around on several posts about how "failing in South America proves that this isn’t about racism", when that post proves that Argentina is the whitest of the South American countries and that was achieved by little known ethnic cleansing. While TLM is rallying behind Aladdin, TLK and BatB, one can’t deny that TLM was always the less popular of those. Going with an African-American actress to play Ariel that is talented af and has proven herself to own the role was a bold decision and my understanding is that it’s paying off. Some countries won’t be showing up, and I think that adding context on why it’s incredibly important to avoid people piling on and doing victory laps over the supposed film’s failings, but to each their own. I agree on all accounts. And the way people are dodging this obvious issue is gross. (Like Torontofan’s post below mine) But your post was off-topic and going to cause derailments and fights and we don’t need that here. We have already said everything that needs to be said in regards to how racism impacted Little Mermaid’s box office and bringing it up again won’t lead to anything productive. I know you may be disappointed, but that’s just the way it is. And as always, remember that we’re not the only place on the Internet where you can talk about Little Mermaid and its box office. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Roark Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Not surprising at all. For obvious reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGODanca Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 https://twitter.com/meJat32/status/1662824077009223682?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCarterofEarth Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 For a $250M budget these overseas numbers are a disaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 342,757 Korea ~ admit @keysersoze123 on spot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 East Asia $2.72M Korea $2.52M China $0.00M Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathon Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Under $200m overseas total, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Under $250M IN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Marathon said: Under $200m overseas total, I guess. It should go over since it still has Japan, and several European markets were deflated because of the weather. Still, this is a disaster compared to the other Renaissance remakes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Roark Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 58/42 split. Ouch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, KP1025 said: It should go over since it still has Japan, and several European markets were deflated because of the weather. Still, this is a disaster compared to the other Renaissance remakes. I dont see it doing much in Japan honestly and there's a lot of competition coming up with Spider Man going after young kids and then Transformers, ofc The Flash and Elemental. I dont think $200M is a lock yet lets see next weekend hold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 ‘The Little Mermaid’ Splashes To $164M Global Bow, But There’s Something Fishy Overseas As Disney Pic Beset By Review-Bombing Refresh for latest…: Disney’s live-action take on The Little Mermaid is doing swimmingly at the domestic box office, with a three-day opening of $95.5M and a four-day projection of $117.5M. Factoring in the international box office bow of $68.3M, that makes for an estimated $163.8M global debut through Sunday. The offshore launch is lower than hoped for coming into the frame. But it bears noting there was something fishy going on in overseas markets with so-called review-bombing in such areas as France, Korea, Germany and beyond. While the Rob Marshall-directed update has a 95% verified audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, film ratings websites overseas, including IMDB in the UK, Brazil and Mexico as well as AlloCiné in France, posted advisories during the rollout when negative user reviews appeared in questionable abundance. As we noted in our global preview, The Little Mermaid was expected to be more of a domestic play at the outset. However, it’s fairly astonishing to see these overseas reactions — largely believed to be led by internet trolls. In France, where Little Mermaid launched on Wednesday, AlloCiné wrote, “We are currently observing an unusual distribution of scores which demands the need for caution. We encourage you to make up your own mind about the film.” While not unprecedented, this is a rare move. To be fair, critics at some respected outlets including Libération, Première and Les Inrockuptibles did not like the movie, giving it just one star. On IMDB, a warning reads: “Our rating mechanism has detected unusual voting activity on this title. To preserve the reliability of our rating system, an alternate weighting calculation has been applied.” That note appears on the U.S. and Canadian sites as well as those for the UK, Brazil and Mexico. IMDB says it publishes weighted vote averages rather than raw data averages. “Although we accept and consider all votes received by users, not all votes have the same impact (or ‘weight’) on the final rating. When unusual voting activity is detected, an alternate weighting calculation may be applied in order to preserve the reliability of our system,” the website explains. However, it does not disclose the exact method used to generate the rating. In Germany, Moviepilot showed a rating of .7 out of 10 before The Little Mermaid release – far lower than any comp title. Traction increased throughout the weekend, moving to a 5 rating. Some gripes have been about murky lighting or even just the why of it all when remaking a classic. In some pockets of the world, there has sadly been racially-tinged commentary. Korea’s SBS News reported heading into the weekend that the film had been subject to “ratings terrorism” in an article whose title Korean entertainment website Zapzee translated to “Backlash Against ‘Black Mermaid’: Appearance Ridiculed, Ratings Drop on Day One.” On the ratings portal of Korea’s Naver over the past several days, there had been a trend of negative reviews receiving hundreds of likes, and positive reviews getting hundreds of thumbs down. On the day of release, the score was 1.96, which has since evolved to 6.67. Many ultimately have praised Halle Bailey’s performance. And, in China, it’s just a disaster. There is no audience score on Maoyan, unusual for a film already in release for several days. The box office through Sunday is a dismal RMB 17.7M ($2.5M) with Maoyan projecting a full run of about $4M. Here are the Top 5 markets on the movie at open: Mexico ($8.5M), UK ($6.3M), Italy ($4.7M), Brazil ($4M) and Australia ($4M). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borobudur Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 So, Can Mena Massoud reactivate his Twitter now? 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) I have never seen that 1.96 Naver Score in Korea Quote On the ratings portal of Korea’s Naver over the past several days, there had been a trend of negative reviews receiving hundreds of likes, and positive reviews getting hundreds of thumbs down. On the day of release, the score was 1.96, which has since evolved to 6.67. Edited May 28, 2023 by Issac Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous5445 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Borobudur said: So, Can Mena Massoud reactivate his Twitter now? Aladdin was right all along 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: Damn this time we (Italy) are really high, might finish in the top 7/8 biggest markets for this movie Edited May 28, 2023 by MG10 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 $2M Indonesia Start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...