Barbie (2023)

[Spidey Freak]

On 7/26/2023 at 1:28 AM, Spidey Freak said:

 

 

I like how if the movie were from Weird Barbie's POV, it would have been basically Wicked.

 

Ken's POV would have made it Oz: The Great and Powerful 

[Spidey Freak]

On 7/27/2023 at 10:07 PM, titanic2187 said:

like what is whole point of Will Ferrell's presence in the movie?

 

There had to be a face for Mattel Patriarchy (which in Barbie's POV was The Creator).

 

Take him out and you just get Barbie going to Mattel and meeting Ruth's ghost. While some parts of the film would remain unaffected like Ken seeing how patriarchy works in the real world and going back to Barbieland to enact it there, Barbie would have been in a different headspace if the only authority figure she met at Mattel was Ruth. While the sexism she experienced in the world outside Mattel would have affected her, she wouldn't have reached her breaking point in Barbieland if she thought Mattel itself was A-OK. 

 

Ferrell is also the foil to Ferreira's character. She would've been even less fleshed out and relatable if we were told she was depressed because of a non-specific toxic work atmosphere vs. us knowing she had to put up with him at work every day. 

 

That's not to say the character had his pitfalls being used as corporate propaganda at points ("I can't let Ken take over Barbieland coz what about inspiring little girls?") but I can see why a moment like that was Gerwig offering an olive branch in return for some seriously effective and chilling scenes like him sweet-talking Barbie to step into her box and be shackled again.

[vale9001]

Personally i think all the 4 main characters (Barbie, Ken, mother and daughter) have good arches. Ferrel character Is there just to comedy purpose, as almost every other characters, which in a comedy is totally ok.

 

Saying that i think this Is just a kind of situationist- surrealist comedy ala The Rocky horror picture show - monty phyton, especially in the second part. So i don't think approaching It with things like "the characters arcs" like we're watching  the lord of the Rings really matter, at least not for me. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by vale9001

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

18 hours ago, Day and Date The Best said:

Overreading of the movie. 

You commented before you could’ve even watched the video in full. 

[WorkingonaName]

Kens arc was so based, most gender europhia I've ever felt outside of a casino. 

[WorkingonaName]

On 7/24/2023 at 2:39 AM, Valonqar said:

Ken's Mojo Dojo Casa House 

I want one

[Valonqar]

36 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:

I want one

 Same. Best part of the movie too which is a high praise.

[WorkingonaName]

36 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 Same. Best part of the movie too which is a high praise.

the Ken movie will beat Minions. 

[filmlover]

I hope they take Cillian Murphy up on his offer to play a Ken variant in the inevitable Gosling-led spin-off!

 

[Valonqar]

23 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:

the Ken movie will beat Minions. 

 

Yep I expect that effect.

[Jonwo]

Have to say Mattel deserves huge props for letting the film makers use Barbie and Ken dolls that were misfires like Sugar Daddy Ken which I did not realise was a real doll!! 

[fabiopazzo2]

unfortunately the film ends after 20 minutes. After that it felt like Wonder Woman 1984 to me.

C

[vale9001]

Saw It for the second time. Even Better than than the first time. Such a great comedy but also great cinema. There Is so much subtle expressed with sound and images, directing choices etc...

I don't like that final solution about Barbie and her meeting with her creator (seems a little bit Too much of an hollywoodian classic ending) so It's not an A but A-.

Saying that really a great movie...characters there are already iconic (Barbie and Ken really are), cult scenes, simple but meaningful story (while as i said there is a lot we can talk about his visual aesthetic  and sound, that's not that simple) and a world you don't forget about It and not so much comedies have (for me is at the level of Batman by Tim Burton in that sense).

 

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by vale9001

[Austin]

We need a Ryan Gosling Ken movie NOW featuring Micheal Cera as Allan. The rest of the movie was, uhhh, part of the movie.

 

5/10

Edited July 31, 2023 by Austin

[BadAtGender]

Okay wow

[Torontofan]

Was an interesting film really and great visuals.

 

People shouldn't take it to serious and realize rhe message was for all people.

 

B plus

[Bob Train]

Just saw it, it was charming, funny, and creative. Gerwig's direction is great, and while not every joke lands, and some take away from dramatic moments, enough of them do for it to still be funny and heartfelt simultaneously. Unlike most Hollywood movies with female leads, which just spout a generic, dull, and corporate "female empowerment" message, that message is actively made fun of here through Will Ferrell's character, who is the personification of that exec mentality. Barbie instead opts for a smart and realistic message about how the patriarchy hurts all people. The set design was great, Robbie and Gosling were brilliant. Michael Cera's character was unfunny in my opinion though and it would have been better without him. Sometimes it was a bit too on the nose with it's messaging though.

 

7/10