The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[Inceptionzq]

On 10/13/2023 at 3:58 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Marvels Emagine Entertainment

T-27 Thursday

158 Showings

593

+66

25532

0.764

The Flash Day 4

7.41M

 

T-28 Friday

242 Showings

258

+18

39782

0.694

The Flash Day 4

10.26M

 

T-29 Saturday

246 Showings

211

+23

40185

0.787

The Flash Day 4

12.36M

 

T-30 Sunday

241 Showings

92

+14

39429

0.929

The Flash Day 4

14.40M

The Marvels Emagine Entertainment [+3 days of sales]

T-24 Thursday

158 Showings

737

+144

25525

1.070

Indiana Jones 5 T-24

7.70M

 

T-25 Friday

242 Showings

334

+76

39095

1.285

Indiana Jones 5 T-25

21.58M

 

T-26 Saturday

246 Showings

278

+67

39277

1.931

Indiana Jones 5 T-26

35.87M

 

T-27 Sunday

241 Showings

121

+29

38524

1.833

Indiana Jones 5 T-27

33.18M

[Tinalera]

2 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Wish also not released yet is an odd one as well.

 

We can't call two data points a trend, as Canada has always been very different for timing on these things. But it feels odd.

 

I probably should do a better job of documenting which movies get different sale dates in Canada compared to the US and how much they're delayed. It would be interesting to see if there's any patterns.

It would certainly be an interesting perspective. Its always a bit of a challenge when US says "tickets on sale now!" and Canada is like ".....nahhhh". I worked for a Canadian theatre many many moons ago, just usual floor stuff. Still was an insight to see how my managers were always kind of talking/haggling/trying to figure out how many shows they would get, how long a run ect (and this was LONG before Pre-sales were ever a thing). Also there might be different negotiations for films for Canada from US from same Studio. 

 

EDIT: FNAF just hit for presales for Cineplex

 

EDIT 2: Give it some time as there is barely any theatres showing, so Ill probably take a look tomorrow where we should start seeing a more reliable amount-Wed probably even more as thats when they like doing their adding of volume.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Tinalera

[TheFlatLannister]

On 10/15/2023 at 6:18 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
151	670	25536	2.6%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

37

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-5

 

(0.256x) of Oppenheimer ~$2.69M Previews

(1.772x) of Saw X~$3.54M Previews

 

COMPS AVG: $3.12M 

 

Transitioning to smaller scale comps

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-4

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
153	718	25964	2.8%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

48

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

2

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-4

 

(0.253x) of Oppenheimer ~$2.66M Previews

(1.822x) of Saw X~$3.64M Previews

 

COMPS AVG: $3.15M 

 

strongest day since tickets launched 

[Tinalera]

The Marvels

Thurs Nov 9 Fri Nov 10

Toronto Canada

 

Toronto	# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Thurs	4	23	434	3877	4311	0.1006
Fri	4	31	982	5740	6722	0.1460

[keysersoze123]

On 10/12/2023 at 7:06 AM, keysersoze123 said:

MTC2 The Marvels Previews - 12568/569613 191454.37 3592 shows

MTC2 The Marvels Previews - 15637/574634 239313.85 3615 shows 

 

This is what it sold in 4.5 days. Not too far from where Eternals was but that was earlier in its PS cycle and so daily pace was lot better. This is not moving the needle that much until next catalyst or close to release. 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 10/15/2023 at 6:14 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-11

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
174	2652	32508	8.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

36

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-11

 

(1.053x) of Flash $10.21M Previews

(0.741x) of ATSV $12.85M Previews

(1.779x) of Fast X $13.35M Previews

Comps AVG: $12.14M

 

*For fun*

(0.774x) of Barbie $16.34M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-10

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
174	2690	32508	8.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

38

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-10

 

(1.031x) of Flash $10.00M Previews

(0.718x) of ATSV $12.47M Previews

(1.718x) of Fast X $12.88M Previews

Comps AVG: $11.78M

 

*For fun*

(0.717x) of Barbie $15.12M

[TheFlatLannister]

On 10/15/2023 at 6:08 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-37

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
145	262	26289	0.99%

^{*numbers taken as of 8:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

12

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

nothing yet

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-36

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
153	380	27838	1.4%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

118

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

8

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

nothing yet

 

Well, the bump is 100% noticeable here 

 

297 seats sold at MTC1 Disney over 6 showings 

[charlie Jatinder]

5 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

MTC2 The Marvels Previews - 15637/574634 239313.85 3615 shows 

 

This is what it sold in 4.5 days. Not too far from where Eternals was but that was earlier in its PS cycle and so daily pace was lot better. This is not moving the needle that much until next catalyst or close to release. 

That Eternals numbers is after removed blocked. Inc blocked it perhaps was 19K range.

 

Marvels would be 13.1K ish

[Giorno]

According to this, the premiere is November 1 for The Marvels

 

https://www.averagesocialite.com/la-events/2023/7/13/the-marvels-premiere-la

 

Presumably we get social reactions then

[TheFlatLannister]

On 10/15/2023 at 6:07 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-25

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
251	2005	50028	4.0%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

48

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-25

 

(0.476x) of GOTG3~$8.33M Previews

(1.234x) of Indy 5~$8.88M Previews

Comps AVG: $8.61M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-24

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
259	2049	52152	3.9%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

44

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

8

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-24

 

(0.455x) of GOTG3~$7.96M Previews

(1.226x) of Indy 5~$8.83M Previews

Comps AVG: $8.39M

[YM!]

26 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-36

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
153	380	27838	1.4%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

118

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

8

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

nothing yet

 

Well, the bump is 100% noticeable here 

 

297 seats sold at MTC1 Disney over 6 showings 

Was this for today or Sunday?

Edited October 16, 2023 by YM!

[abracadabra1998]

23 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Previews:

 

Killers of the Flower Moon (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 19 theaters	70	135	672	10660	6.3

 

Comps:

0.25x Oppenheimer: $2.63 Million

0.5x Mission Impossible 7 (Just Tuesday): $3.47 Million

0.56x Indiana Jones 5: $4.03 Million

4.7x Haunting in Venice (w/ EA): $5.64 Million

2.37x The Creator (w/ EA): $3.79 Million

 

Average: $3.91 Million

 

Lost ground to MI7 (T-7 to T-4, however, was during the week, as that was a Tuesday release), kept track with Oppy and Indiana Jones, and added Haunting in Venice (smaller, pre-sales window, that'll be going down). Overall still in the $3.25-3.5 Million boat.

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Previews:

 

Killers of the Flower Moon (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 20 theaters	79	97	769	11517	6.68

 

Comps:

0.23x Oppenheimer: $2.46 Million

0.5x Mission Impossible 7 (Just Tuesday): $3.53 Million

0.53x Indiana Jones 5: $3.83 Million

4.09x Haunting in Venice (w/ EA): $4.91 Million

2.26x The Creator (w/ EA): $3.61 Million

 

Average: $3.67 Million

 

Added The Creator as a comp, I think that could be a decent comp as another user mentioned it on here. Dropped against every comp not named Mission Impossible, and that was Friday into Saturday. Not great but hoping it stabilizes in the 3.25-3.5 range I mentioned yesterday.

 

Another daily update tomorrow, as well as a Wish update.

[TheFlatLannister]

25 minutes ago, YM! said:

Was this for today or Sunday?

today's run at 6pm

[MysteryMovieMogul]

Any chance that, um, "World Events" will hurt the legs for KotFM?

[keysersoze123]

1 hour ago, Tinalera said:

The Marvels

Thurs Nov 9 Fri Nov 10

Toronto Canada

 

Toronto	# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Thurs	4	23	434	3877	4311	0.1006
Fri	4	31	982	5740	6722	0.1460

Earliest comps you had with Guardians was on 4/15. So that is few days after this. That said Marvels have way stronger friday sales than Guardians.

 

Edit: Never mind. its Remembrance day holiday in Canada. So Friday will be boosted for sure. 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by keysersoze123

[Bob Train]

2 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

Any chance that, um, "World Events" will hurt the legs for KotFM?

What?

[keysersoze123]

58 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

That Eternals numbers is after removed blocked. Inc blocked it perhaps was 19K range.

 

Marvels would be 13.1K ish

I think I need figure out this annoying stuff of same screen listed twice for dbox and otherwise. Then we wont have this anamoly. will look at this weekend for sure. 

[vafrow]

8 hours ago, vafrow said:

Still no FNAF tickets for sale in Canada yet. Unless they do it in the next 24 hours, it's going to be just normal release, with Thursday previews being available sometime tomorrow evening. Only bigger recent film that's got this treatment with no advance sales was Saw X, which obviously opened much lower. 

 

Wish still isn't available either, despite today being that 100 year anniver date.

 

 

FNAF is finally starting to go up with full advance sale treatment. Only a few places have it up so far, but they're already selling well.

 

Nothing on Wish or Trolls.

 

Edit: I just noticed that the sales are only available starting the Friday. There's no Thursday showtimes up yet.

Edited October 16, 2023 by vafrow

[Tinalera]

Slowly gearing back up now to getting some more numbers, finding a balance between on and off puter things. Its still a bit sticky  and just trying to do whatever I can.

 

As for the whole "dbox/non dbox seats"-Im musingwith my counts just keeping a separate track of total "dbox" seats and "non dbox" with the two seat totals obviously coming to total seat amount. 

 

That might be something slowly worked in though over time, still just easing my way back in here.

[Tinalera]

17 minutes ago, vafrow said:

FNAF is finally starting to go up with full advance sale treatment. Only a few places have it up so far, but they're already selling well.

 

Nothing on Wish or Trolls.

 

Edit: I just noticed that the sales are only available starting the Friday. There's no Thursday showtimes up yet.

Its such a joy sometimes dealing with Canadian box office stuff isnt it?

 

 

edit I really do enjoy doing the counts  But man they make it......interesting sometimes.....

Edited October 17, 2023 by Tinalera