Weekend Thread (11/17-19) | Early Deadline #s - Songbirds 5.75-6M Previews, Trolls 2M

[filmlover]

A B+ grade for Hunger Games doesn't seem that great considering it had a big fan rush for opening day. Guess it all depends on how frontloaded it is, and what its drop looks like next weekend even with Thanksgiving (it loses all IMAX/PLF screens to Napoleon and Wish on Wednesday).

[Dale Cooper]

I feel like some are overanalzying why YA (dystopians) has gone down in popularity. Every genre has its ups on downs, and YA peaked somewhere around Potter and Twilight ending and Hunger Games starting. I think the issue was more a lack of quality together with oversaturation. I heavily a series like Twilight would have been able to do close to what it did today either, because YA just does not sell as it once did.

 

4 hours ago, Noctis said:

If Mockingjay had been a single film, not only would it have been the highest grossing film of the year, but it would have outgrossed CF.

I very much doubt it. Simple comparisions with Harry Potter (where every successive movie opened bigger than the one before) and Twilight (where every movie past New Moon opened remarkably consistent) shows that there just was lower interest after Catching Fire in the Hunger Games franchise. It feels like a long stretch to argue that it would have outgrossed Catching Fire if it would have been one movie.

Edited November 18, 2023 by Dale Cooper

[Spidey Freak]

Tracking thread shows interest was building up for Songbirds but crashed as soon as the meh reviews dropped. It's kinda funny Lionsgate lifted the embargo early to coincide with The Marvels' late embargo lift, but The Marvels ended up having the higher RT score.

[Litio]

7 minutes ago, filmlover said:

A B+ grade for Hunger Games doesn't seem that great considering it had a big fan rush for opening day. Guess it all depends on how frontloaded it is, and what its drop looks like next weekend even with Thanksgiving (it loses all IMAX/PLF screens to Napoleon and Wish on Wednesday).

Based on the early numbers, fans don't seem to be rushing anything and if i'm being honest, this TBOSS cinemascore is very good for what it is. GA doesn't fall in love with films where the protagonist is a villain/bad nature.
Some examples:

 

[Kon]

The official numbers for Friday hadn't been revealed yet, right?

[Arlborn]

11 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

I think like every other weekend each of these box office results can be excused away in a vacuum, but then you add it all up and start to realize that people are rejecting crappy/cynical content en masse and the studios don't really seem to have an answer. Yeah I'm not gonna do the CJohn movies are dying thing, but this year is proof positive that people want things that are better and a little different, and the current major budget movies greenlit for 2024 and much of 2025 look to be, on the surface, an absolute nadir of content. What's the path to improvement?

Games, probably. More specifically the kind of games that became famous with YouTubers in the 2010’s. I watched hundreds of hours of YouTube gaming content with my zoomer daughter back then and she’s literally the type of person who ate the FNAF movie up and would go out in a group again to watch any other movies made about those games.

10 hours ago, Bob Train said:

People want video game movies. Fortnite, Minecraft movies will make $1b. 

Yes, but also, they need to make a Terraria and an Undertale movie, especially an Undertale movie.

 

Edited November 18, 2023 by Arlborn

[Arlborn]

A horror comedy Among Us movie would also make hundreds of millions of dollars by the way.

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, Kon said:

The official numbers for Friday hadn't been revealed yet, right?

Nope. Only guesstimates at the moment.

[WorkingonaName]

Among Us movie but one person in the theatre is a imposter who's goal is to kill everyone. 

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[MysteryMovieMogul]

5 hours ago, George Parr said:

The other topic is studios still deciding to release further movies from the same franchise. For that you don't necessarily need the prior installment to have been a big hit.  There can be a whole range of reasons why you would do another one, even if the last installment seemingly didn't do well at the box office.

If, as you say, the box office has the final word on success, but a franchise gets another sequel even though the box office was bad, then doesn't that show that box office actually doesn't have the final word on success?

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[Grand Cine]

3 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

YIKES it's worse than Morbius ( 2,89M) and just 300K more than Halloween Ends . The movie will make around 10M and a 78% drop

[grim22]

5 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

That's a 58% drop just from the Thursday previews 

[Issac Newton]

2 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

Deadline was too off with $3.5M 2nd Friday

 

$2.8M (-81.3% True OD) // (-87% OD incl. Previews)

[IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son]

Wakanda Forever Fri-weekend IM gets it to $10.36m.

Yesterday it was $11.1m from the Thu-weekend IM, so it's dropping worse. $10m is in serious jeopardy.

[Kon]

7 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

 

Oh, dear. So, the possibilities of this weekend to be over $10M are little, right?

Edited November 18, 2023 by Kon